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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 10:27 am 
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cc la mata hari wrote:
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Agreed. He used Obama's list to stick it to the left.

What does that mean? and what does this "left" have do with it?

The left is his major opposition at the moment. I would think that's been painfully obvious. It is no coincidence that he used a list of countries compiled by the Obama administration. You see, when lefties complain and the media goes after him, it makes the left look like a bunch of hypocrites.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 10:29 am 
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Herman wrote:
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Agreed. He used Obama's list to stick it to the left.

It just amazes me that protesters can't see that.

It's pretty obvious. The only trouble is that Obama never banned immigration from these countries.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 10:35 am 
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It is no coincidence that he used a list of countries compiled by the Obama administration.

Of course it's not. A new admin ALWAYS has to consider and utilize "data that exists" within the intel community .. often going back years in fact.

Thus, in reality, that claim
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He used Obama's list to stick it to the left.

is way over the top and I find it quite strange .... playing politics to the hilt, desperately "reaching" in fact .. Seems there's a lot of that going around lately on all issues

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So WHY would we deliberately bring in an inherently violent / supremacist / misogynist / counter-to-democracy IDEOLOGY .... only to then have to monitor its devout followers 24/7/365? :crazy:
Someone, anyone, remind me WHY we would do that.


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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 11:01 am 
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cc la mata hari wrote:
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It is no coincidence that he used a list of countries compiled by the Obama administration.

Of course it's not. A new admin ALWAYS has to consider and utilize "data that exists" within the intel community .. often going back years in fact.

Thus, in reality, that claim
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He used Obama's list to stick it to the left.

is way over the top and I find it quite strange .... playing politics to the hilt, desperately "reaching" in fact .. Seems there's a lot of that going around lately on all issues

Those seven nations are a mess and the intel community knows that. Choosing those seven nations for his symbolic ban is a reminder of which administration said there is a problem with those countries.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 11:46 am 
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cc la mata hari wrote:
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It is no coincidence that he used a list of countries compiled by the Obama administration.

Of course it's not. A new admin ALWAYS has to consider and utilize "data that exists" within the intel community .. often going back years in fact.

Thus, in reality, that claim
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He used Obama's list to stick it to the left.

is way over the top and I find it quite strange .... playing politics to the hilt, desperately "reaching" in fact .. Seems there's a lot of that going around lately on all issues

I agree on utilizing available data but given he had less than two weeks to consider the data, it's not a stretch that this was a political move designed in part to silence the left/media. Knowing what I know about the inner workings of politics, I would bet money it was a contributing factor in his decision to ban that list of countries.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 4:06 pm 
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I went over to Niagara Falls, New York for the day. No different than any other time I was there. Joe's talking out of his ass again.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 4:12 pm 
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On first read, I panicked - thought you said "I went over Niagara Falls"

Ya, JoeJoe is a piece of work

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So WHY would we deliberately bring in an inherently violent / supremacist / misogynist / counter-to-democracy IDEOLOGY .... only to then have to monitor its devout followers 24/7/365? :crazy:
Someone, anyone, remind me WHY we would do that.


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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 4:19 pm 
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cc la mata hari wrote:
On first read, I panicked - thought you said "I went over Niagara Falls"

Ya, JoeJoe is a piece of work

I was thinking about it, but I could not get insurance on my barrel. :laugh3:

Joe likes stirring the pot here and then running back to VF to let everyone there know about it.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 4:21 pm 
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Niagara Falls is one of my most favourite places in Canada. I went there for my honeymoon.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 4:24 pm 
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RW wrote:
Niagara Falls is one of my most favourite places in Canada. I went there for my honeymoon.

Niagara Falls, Ontario is nice. Lots of tourist attractions including two great casinos. Niagara Falls New York has better wings though. ac_biggrin

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