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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 6:42 pm 
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The Trudeau Government should be applauded for supporting Donald Trump’s decision to revive Canada’s Keystone XL pipeline.

The $8-billion project to transport 830,000 barrels a day of Alberta oil to the United States had been declared dead after Barak Obama rejected it. But the unexpected outcome of the U.S. election gave the pipeline a new lease on life. President Trump quickly signed a presidential order for work to proceed.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s endorsement was absolute. “I’ve been on the record for many years supporting [Keystone] because it leads to economic growth and good jobs for Albertans,” he said after Trump made the pipeline announcement.

Keystone is a win-win for both countries.

Keystone means a better price for Alberta oil and guaranteed access to U.S. consumers. It also means more tax revenue for Canadian governments. The pipeline for the U.S. will be a source of abundant and affordable energy. It will create many construction jobs in both countries.

The President’s Keystone decision was a positive moment for Canada. Even more so after a top Trump adviser informed Prime Minister Trudeau and his Cabinet that Canadian energy exports wouldn’t be hit by a possible new U.S. border tariff. Ottawa has been lobbying against any border tax to keep the price of Canada’s exports competitive.

But good news from the Trump Administration on energy doesn’t mean Canada is out of the woods. The threat to Canada’s energy consumers comes from Ottawa.

The Trudeau Government is forcing all provinces to price carbon with a direct tax or cap-and-trade program. This will cause Canadians to pay more for energy. It will increase the cost to heat our homes, operate our vehicles and run our businesses.

Prime Minister Trudeau believes a U.S.-imposed tariff or border tax would be harmful to our economy but his made-in-Canada carbon tax on Canadian energy consumers is perfectly sensible.

The impact of this woolly thinking is Canadian oil and natural gas will be sold to U.S. buyers – households and businesses – for less than what Canadian customers will pay for a commodity that our companies and workers produce here in Canada. As energy becomes more expensive in Canada compared to prices in the U.S., our manufacturers – large and small – will be at a competitive disadvantage. The impact will be a loss of jobs, less investment and lower household incomes.

Donald Trump doesn’t need to put a tariff on Canadian goods entering the U.S. market to slow imports from our country. Mr. Trudeau is going to do it for him. Carbon pricing will make our exports more costly and U.S. imports sold here less expensive. That’s lousy economic policy for Canada.

Ottawa’s carbon pricing will put U.S. energy consumers first and leave Canadians with rising energy bills. Mr. Trudeau is advancing Mr. Trump’s pledge to put America first. The President is surely delighted with Canada.
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/02/08/tr ... rica-first

John Williamson, president of Canadians for Affordable Energy is right. Ontarians know all too well what a job killing, poverty creating stupid idea this is. This is particularly true because the US will not reciprocate.

JT, please put this destructive proposal on the shelf indefinitely.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 7:26 pm 
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Good post guy. It covered the "whole" picture ... the good, the bad and the ugly of the overall picture.

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So WHY would we deliberately bring in an inherently violent / supremacist / misogynist / counter-to-democracy IDEOLOGY .... only to then have to monitor its devout followers 24/7/365? :crazy:
Someone, anyone, remind me WHY we would do that.


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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 7:54 pm 
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It blows my fucking mind that sheeple in this country are pulling their hair out over some ban from countries birds won't lay eggs while True Dope is intentionally making it more difficult for them to support themselves.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 8:33 pm 
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Canadian Carbon Tax, like Australia's ABANDONED carbon tax, is a farce.

Lets say the total global output of the world's greenhouse gasses is 1,000,000 tonnes (metric, you cave dwellers) per day.

Canada's contribution? 1%.

Firstly, the tax does NOT reduce emissions. Secondly, if it did, it would reduce the world's emissions by 1% at the most.

So, you pay for what??

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 8:50 pm 
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Bricktop wrote:
Canadian Carbon Tax, like Australia's ABANDONED carbon tax, is a farce.

Lets say the total global output of the world's greenhouse gasses is 1,000,000 tonnes (metric, you cave dwellers) per day.

Canada's contribution? 1%.

Firstly, the tax does NOT reduce emissions. Secondly, if it did, it would reduce the world's emissions by 1% at the most.

So, you pay for what??

If Mexico introduced a carbon tax, Trump would not need to renegotiate NAFTA. The carbon tax would cancel out Mexico's wage advantage. :laugh3:

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 8:53 pm 
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The Trudeau Principle.

Let us move all our factories to other countries where slavery seems to be legal, and let them pollute the planet with the coal fired power generators.

Then let us tax ourselves to stop polluting the planet, while they continue to do so, so that we can have cheap cars, plasma TV's and no jobs.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 8:58 pm 
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Bricktop wrote:
The Trudeau Principle.

Let us move all our factories to other countries where slavery seems to be legal, and let them pollute the planet with the coal fired power generators.

Then let us tax ourselves to stop polluting the planet, while they continue to do so, so that we can have cheap cars, plasma TV's and no jobs.

Now you get it. It works a lot better when the media thinks the person pitching it is as cuddly as Justine Trudeau.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 9:03 pm 
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True Dope is an incredibly shitty pm with no plan for this country.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 9:41 pm 
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The tragedy is I'd gladly swap him for our disaster of a PM.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 9:47 pm 
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The tragedy is I'd gladly swap him for our disaster of a PM.

It's hard to believe Turnbull could be any worse than the part time drama teacher Justine is.

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Unread postPosted: February 9th, 2017, 11:22 pm 
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Imagine Trudeau, but without the charm.

That's Turnbull.

At least he stood up and gave the Opposition a spray yesterday. Perhaps he has discovered the wonders of testicles after all.

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Unread postPosted: February 10th, 2017, 7:52 am 
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Bricktop wrote:
Imagine Trudeau, but without the charm.

That's Turnbull.

At least he stood up and gave the Opposition a spray yesterday. Perhaps he has discovered the wonders of testicles after all.

But, no national carbon tax anymore..

Do any states have their own carbon tax or cap and trade?


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Unread postPosted: February 10th, 2017, 9:28 am 
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The only prime minister we've ever had who was as bad as Justin was his father.


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Unread postPosted: February 10th, 2017, 11:18 am 
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The only prime minister we've ever had who was as bad as Justin was his father.

That is pretty close to the absolute truth. The Liberal party has been the party of Bay Street and prudent fiscal management. Louis St. Laurent was the very best prime minister this nation has ever had. Trudeau junior is damaging the Liberal brand just like his dad did. I would like to see JT step down and Bill Morneau replace him in a leadership vote.

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Unread postPosted: February 10th, 2017, 4:02 pm 
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Fashionista wrote:
Bricktop wrote:
Imagine Trudeau, but without the charm.

That's Turnbull.

At least he stood up and gave the Opposition a spray yesterday. Perhaps he has discovered the wonders of testicles after all.

But, no national carbon tax anymore..

Do any states have their own carbon tax or cap and trade?


The carbon tax implemented by the leftist government was repealed.

States cannot implement their own taxation, according to our Constitution.

However, our State Government decided to achieve a goal of 50% energy through renewable resources by building wind farms.

It has been a colossal and embarrassing failure, with blackouts during peak periods, because, surprise surprise, they only generate wind when its WINDY. On hot summer days, when demand is high, there is very little wind. So we have blackouts.

Beware any government that sets renewable energy targets. Its a scam.

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Unread postPosted: February 10th, 2017, 4:10 pm 
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Bricktop wrote:
Fashionista wrote:
Bricktop wrote:
Imagine Trudeau, but without the charm.

That's Turnbull.

At least he stood up and gave the Opposition a spray yesterday. Perhaps he has discovered the wonders of testicles after all.

But, no national carbon tax anymore..

Do any states have their own carbon tax or cap and trade?


The carbon tax implemented by the leftist government was repealed.

States cannot implement their own taxation, according to our Constitution.

However, our State Government decided to achieve a goal of 50% energy through renewable resources by building wind farms.

It has been a colossal and embarrassing failure, with blackouts during peak periods, because, surprise surprise, they only generate wind when its WINDY. On hot summer days, when demand is high, there is very little wind. So we have blackouts.

Beware any government that sets renewable energy targets. Its a scam.

Our provinces have more autonomy than Australian states. Having said that, what your state government is doing is a stupid idea. Fash's province has set targets too and they cannot met those targets. They used to be self sufficient in energy, but now they will have to buy energy from RW's province. Power bills in Alberta are set to go through the roof because of those stupid targets.

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Unread postPosted: February 11th, 2017, 9:27 pm 

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not sure about the merits or downsides of carbon pricing.

but I think there is a strong argument, for monitoring how much is being collected, and where the money is going. IN other words, there needs to be greater accountability. And they can't just collect tax without informing the public how they money is being spent and who it's going to.

so far, I haven't seen what the results of all this carbon tax are.

Maybe if it was put on a government website, with the amounts collected showing and what they government is using it for.

But I agree, the government can't pull the wool over the public's eyes and keep them in the dark.

so far I haven't seen any tangible results - at least not like in Germany where entire towns are covered with solar roofs or they are in the process of launching a train which runs on hydrogen power.

So if the Canadian government doesn't tell the public where the money is going, then no wonder so many are skeptical of the tax.


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Unread postPosted: February 12th, 2017, 1:32 pm 

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I live in the boonies. Every single thing we have has to be shipped in. Carbon taxes, especially on fuel, make our lives exceedingly expensive. This tax is a waste of time and utter bullshit. Fuck Trudeau and his solutions that don't actually solve anything but make us more poor.

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Unread postPosted: February 12th, 2017, 3:03 pm 
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Well, vote him out.

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We will when it's vote time.

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