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Unread postPosted: February 2nd, 2018, 5:28 pm 
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Apparently thursday the The Canadian government’s Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage completed its draft report on “anti-Islamophobia” Motion M-103, and is ready to “take action.” Here are some articles about it.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/cana ... lamophobia

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/m ... lamophobia

https://globalnews.ca/news/4000026/m103 ... fake-news/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/islamop ... -1.4515184


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Unread postPosted: February 2nd, 2018, 8:22 pm 
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Apparently thursday the The Canadian government’s Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage completed its draft report on “anti-Islamophobia” Motion M-103, and is ready to “take action.” Here are some articles about it.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/cana ... lamophobia

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/m ... lamophobia

https://globalnews.ca/news/4000026/m103 ... fake-news/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/islamop ... -1.4515184

Herm and I have been saying that when Trudeau is re-elected expect him to give M-103 legal teeth.

Do you see why I am so anxious to get out of this country in six years? A blasphemy law is coming.

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Unread postPosted: February 2nd, 2018, 9:03 pm 
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Well, I always try to find the bright side

at least we are now equal to Saudi Arabia

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Unread postPosted: February 2nd, 2018, 9:11 pm 
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cc wrote:
Well, I always try to find the bright side

at least we are now equal to Saudi Arabia

Six years from now can't come soon enough.

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Unread postPosted: February 2nd, 2018, 9:53 pm 
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iron horse jockey wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
Apparently thursday the The Canadian government’s Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage completed its draft report on “anti-Islamophobia” Motion M-103, and is ready to “take action.” Here are some articles about it.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/cana ... lamophobia

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/m ... lamophobia

https://globalnews.ca/news/4000026/m103 ... fake-news/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/islamop ... -1.4515184

Herm and I have been saying that when Trudeau is re-elected expect him to give M-103 legal teeth.

Do you see why I am so anxious to get out of this country in six years? A blasphemy law is coming.

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I think that is right, at some point thats what it will be. They will continue to incrementally work their way to it.

Making 103 nonbinding was the start "hey don't worry its not a law" They let it go for a while--then they implement some recommendations. And they let that sit for a while then they add something else. And they keep on repeating the cycle, and bit by bit till that little M 103 acorn grows into a giant oak Sharia blasphemy law.


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Unread postPosted: February 2nd, 2018, 10:14 pm 
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Wazzzup wrote:
iron horse jockey wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
Apparently thursday the The Canadian government’s Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage completed its draft report on “anti-Islamophobia” Motion M-103, and is ready to “take action.” Here are some articles about it.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/cana ... lamophobia

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/m ... lamophobia

https://globalnews.ca/news/4000026/m103 ... fake-news/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/islamop ... -1.4515184

Herm and I have been saying that when Trudeau is re-elected expect him to give M-103 legal teeth.

Do you see why I am so anxious to get out of this country in six years? A blasphemy law is coming.

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I think that is right, at some point thats what it will be. They will continue to incrementally work their way to it.

Making 103 nonbinding was the start "hey don't worry its not a law" They let it go for a while--then they implement some recommendations. And they let that sit for a while then they add something else. And they keep on repeating the cycle, and bit by bit till that little M 103 acorn grows into a giant oak Sharia blasphemy law.

As dumb and full of himself as Trudeau is, even he knows he needs a little time to impose blasphemy laws.

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Unread postPosted: February 2nd, 2018, 10:29 pm 
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iron horse jockey wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
iron horse jockey wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
Apparently thursday the The Canadian government’s Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage completed its draft report on “anti-Islamophobia” Motion M-103, and is ready to “take action.” Here are some articles about it.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/cana ... lamophobia

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/m ... lamophobia

https://globalnews.ca/news/4000026/m103 ... fake-news/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/islamop ... -1.4515184

Herm and I have been saying that when Trudeau is re-elected expect him to give M-103 legal teeth.

Do you see why I am so anxious to get out of this country in six years? A blasphemy law is coming.

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I think that is right, at some point thats what it will be. They will continue to incrementally work their way to it.

Making 103 nonbinding was the start "hey don't worry its not a law" They let it go for a while--then they implement some recommendations. And they let that sit for a while then they add something else. And they keep on repeating the cycle, and bit by bit till that little M 103 acorn grows into a giant oak Sharia blasphemy law.

As dumb and full of himself as Trudeau is, even he knows he needs a little time to impose blasphemy laws.


yeah, you do it too fast and there's a risk of a backlash. You have to be patient, The USSR wasn't built in a day. :laugh:


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Unread postPosted: February 2nd, 2018, 10:47 pm 
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iron horse jockey wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
iron horse jockey wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
Apparently thursday the The Canadian government’s Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage completed its draft report on “anti-Islamophobia” Motion M-103, and is ready to “take action.” Here are some articles about it.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/cana ... lamophobia

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/m ... lamophobia

https://globalnews.ca/news/4000026/m103 ... fake-news/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/islamop ... -1.4515184

Herm and I have been saying that when Trudeau is re-elected expect him to give M-103 legal teeth.

Do you see why I am so anxious to get out of this country in six years? A blasphemy law is coming.



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I think that is right, at some point thats what it will be. They will continue to incrementally work their way to it.

Making 103 nonbinding was the start "hey don't worry its not a law" They let it go for a while--then they implement some recommendations. And they let that sit for a while then they add something else. And they keep on repeating the cycle, and bit by bit till that little M 103 acorn grows into a giant oak Sharia blasphemy law.

As dumb and full of himself as Trudeau is, even he knows he needs a little time to impose blasphemy laws.

Blasphemy laws on a secular population.
:shock:
I would never want to impose my faith on secular people..

I put my faith in a higher power than parliament.


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Unread postPosted: February 2nd, 2018, 10:57 pm 
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Fashionista wrote:
iron horse jockey wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
iron horse jockey wrote:
Wazzzup wrote:
Apparently thursday the The Canadian government’s Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage completed its draft report on “anti-Islamophobia” Motion M-103, and is ready to “take action.” Here are some articles about it.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/cana ... lamophobia

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/m ... lamophobia

https://globalnews.ca/news/4000026/m103 ... fake-news/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/islamop ... -1.4515184

Herm and I have been saying that when Trudeau is re-elected expect him to give M-103 legal teeth.

Do you see why I am so anxious to get out of this country in six years? A blasphemy law is coming.



'
I think that is right, at some point thats what it will be. They will continue to incrementally work their way to it.

Making 103 nonbinding was the start "hey don't worry its not a law" They let it go for a while--then they implement some recommendations. And they let that sit for a while then they add something else. And they keep on repeating the cycle, and bit by bit till that little M 103 acorn grows into a giant oak Sharia blasphemy law.

As dumb and full of himself as Trudeau is, even he knows he needs a little time to impose blasphemy laws.

Blasphemy laws on a secular population.
:shock:
I would never want to impose my faith on secular people..

I put my faith in a higher power than parliament.


I'm not a religious, but I think that is a great view of things.

BTW on that subject what's your opinion fash, doesn't a blasphemy law reek of insecurity of a sort?

Kind of like if a person says-- "how dare you insult my religion, you need to be punished" doesn't that kind of say that this persons religion cannot stand up to criticism?

How good can a religion be if it cannot withstand some criticism??


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Unread postPosted: May 17th, 2019, 9:37 am 
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Two years after M103, a recap on Islamophobia

Two years ago our federal parliament passed M103, a motion condemning Islamophobia. Part of the non-binding text referred to the need to reduce or eliminate “systemic racism and religious discrimination”, with a specific reference to Islamophobia.

Conservatives offered a more general alternative, one which omitted Islamophobia but mentioned the need to protect Muslims, Christians and Jews. However, the Liberal majority prevailed.

Bill 83, a private member’s bill in the Ontario Legislature, has proposed a more Islam-specific measure: to designate Jan. 29 an annual “Day of Remembrance and Action” on Islamophobia. It is now before the Legislature’s standing committee.

The UK passed non-binding legislation in 2010. The Equality Act was more in line with what Canadian Conservatives wanted, as it sought to discourage discrimination against anyone identifying with a religious group with a clear belief system. However, specific legislation to protect Muslims is now being debated. Oddly, it claims Islamophobia is “rooted in racism”.

Murderous attacks on mosques in Quebec City in 2017 and Christchurch, New Zealand, in March of this year show that a tiny minority hate Muslims enough to want to kill them. A larger number of thugs confine themselves to snatching at headscarves or breaking mosque windows. We must not downplay the effects of these antisocial actions, and we must make sure existing laws are enforced.


However, passing legislation that unnecessarily restricts our freedom to express critical opinions is heading towards Orwell’s “thought crime”. It has for some time been illegal to incite others to violence. This should be sufficient from a legal perspective, and as for social attitudes, no laws are likely to change them anyway.

Islamophobia is seldom defined adequately. A religion is a set of beliefs with which we must be free to agree or disagree. Someone who dislikes Islam for it’s beliefs and values is not Islamophobic.

We don’t need to be experts to know enough to express an informed opinion. Many people dislike Islam – or Anglicanism or Presbyterianism – not through bias or prejudice but because they have a fair knowledge of what it stands for and find it irrational, repressive or archaic. That is their prerogative.

Tolerance is the ability to accept the right of other people even to hold beliefs one finds mistaken, and to allow them to practice associated rites and rituals; it requires no one to see all beliefs as equally valid.


Islamophobia is sometimes compared to anti-semitism, but we must be careful about this comparison. Anti-semitism is indeed rooted in racism because it discriminates against a group of people because of who they inescapably are; what is called Islamophobia is opposition to a set of beliefs which a group of people holds.

Racism is a pernicious worldview because it disparages one group’s inherent characteristics. Religious discrimination is a different matter.

Most religious people have simply accepted the belief package their parents have handed them, but others have compared rival belief systems in order to choose the one that suits. One way or another, we all discriminate among religions.

The recent murderous attacks show us anti-Muslim sentiment is real, but Islamophobia as a term must not be used as a weasel word to shut down all criticism of that set of beliefs peculiar to Islam.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... lamophobia

Trudeau is indeed using Islamophobia as a weasel word. M103 is a weasel motion.

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Unread postPosted: May 17th, 2019, 6:42 pm 
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Islam is the only "religion" where who's critics have a phobia.

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Unread postPosted: May 18th, 2019, 9:48 am 
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seoulbro wrote:
Two years after M103, a recap on Islamophobia

Two years ago our federal parliament passed M103, a motion condemning Islamophobia. Part of the non-binding text referred to the need to reduce or eliminate “systemic racism and religious discrimination”, with a specific reference to Islamophobia.

Conservatives offered a more general alternative, one which omitted Islamophobia but mentioned the need to protect Muslims, Christians and Jews. However, the Liberal majority prevailed.

Bill 83, a private member’s bill in the Ontario Legislature, has proposed a more Islam-specific measure: to designate Jan. 29 an annual “Day of Remembrance and Action” on Islamophobia. It is now before the Legislature’s standing committee.

The UK passed non-binding legislation in 2010. The Equality Act was more in line with what Canadian Conservatives wanted, as it sought to discourage discrimination against anyone identifying with a religious group with a clear belief system. However, specific legislation to protect Muslims is now being debated. Oddly, it claims Islamophobia is “rooted in racism”.

Murderous attacks on mosques in Quebec City in 2017 and Christchurch, New Zealand, in March of this year show that a tiny minority hate Muslims enough to want to kill them. A larger number of thugs confine themselves to snatching at headscarves or breaking mosque windows. We must not downplay the effects of these antisocial actions, and we must make sure existing laws are enforced.


However, passing legislation that unnecessarily restricts our freedom to express critical opinions is heading towards Orwell’s “thought crime”. It has for some time been illegal to incite others to violence. This should be sufficient from a legal perspective, and as for social attitudes, no laws are likely to change them anyway.

Islamophobia is seldom defined adequately. A religion is a set of beliefs with which we must be free to agree or disagree. Someone who dislikes Islam for it’s beliefs and values is not Islamophobic.

We don’t need to be experts to know enough to express an informed opinion. Many people dislike Islam – or Anglicanism or Presbyterianism – not through bias or prejudice but because they have a fair knowledge of what it stands for and find it irrational, repressive or archaic. That is their prerogative.

Tolerance is the ability to accept the right of other people even to hold beliefs one finds mistaken, and to allow them to practice associated rites and rituals; it requires no one to see all beliefs as equally valid.


Islamophobia is sometimes compared to anti-semitism, but we must be careful about this comparison. Anti-semitism is indeed rooted in racism because it discriminates against a group of people because of who they inescapably are; what is called Islamophobia is opposition to a set of beliefs which a group of people holds.

Racism is a pernicious worldview because it disparages one group’s inherent characteristics. Religious discrimination is a different matter.

Most religious people have simply accepted the belief package their parents have handed them, but others have compared rival belief systems in order to choose the one that suits. One way or another, we all discriminate among religions.

The recent murderous attacks show us anti-Muslim sentiment is real, but Islamophobia as a term must not be used as a weasel word to shut down all criticism of that set of beliefs peculiar to Islam.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... lamophobia

Trudeau is indeed using Islamophobia as a weasel word. M103 is a weasel motion.

With my limited understanding of Canadian parliamentary rules, a motion only affects rules in the upper and lower houses of parliament. If that is how it works, my concern with M-103 is that it becomes a testing ground for the country.

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Unread postPosted: May 18th, 2019, 10:58 am 
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iron horse jockey wrote:
Islam is the only "religion" where who's critics have a phobia.
Yep good point--

The progtards have anointed the worst mainstream religion, in terms of human rights abuses and extremist fanatacism, in the world with uncriticizable victim status. Progtards don't see Islam as a religion, they see Muslims as brown people who are oppressed, and they see Christianity as white people who oppress non white people.


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There are countless reasons not to reelect Trudeau, but creeping blasphemy laws is a big reason he needs to go.

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