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Unread postPosted: December 29th, 2018, 8:40 am 
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Oh my goodness BALLSONARO..

That's not what I see on travel videos for Rio.


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Unread postPosted: December 29th, 2018, 9:50 am 

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Maybe the OP should stop blaming Rio’s inhabitants instead of the people who put them there.



Balsnaro should be reminded that Brazil did not officially abolish slavery till nearly the 20 the century

That was many years after the United States abolished slavery

You reap what ya sow, Bal.

You’re blaming somebody for a problem that you’re own ancestors created


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Unread postPosted: December 29th, 2018, 10:03 am 
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Japan utilized slave labour throughout it's empire and even in Japan itself until 1945..

Japan and Taiwan are prosperous nations today despite having slavery less than one hundred years ago.


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Unread postPosted: December 29th, 2018, 2:58 pm 
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JOE wrote:
Maybe the OP should stop blaming Rio’s inhabitants instead of the people who put them there.


Balsnaro should be reminded that Brazil did not officially abolish slavery till nearly the 20 the century

That was many years after the United States abolished slavery

You reap what ya sow, Bal.

You’re blaming somebody for a problem that you’re own ancestors created

Slavery ended in Haiti before it did in Canada or America. So, what is your point?

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Unread postPosted: December 29th, 2018, 3:39 pm 
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Stalin used slave labour well into the 1950's.

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Unread postPosted: December 29th, 2018, 5:54 pm 
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Bricktop wrote:
Stalin used slave labour well into the 1950's.

It was used by the Japanese empire everywhere until their defeat in 1945.


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Unread postPosted: December 29th, 2018, 11:17 pm 

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Fashionista wrote:
Japan utilized slave labour throughout it's empire and even in Japan itself until 1945..

Japan and Taiwan are prosperous nations today despite having slavery less than one hundred years ago.


While I don’t doubt that Imperial Japan could be very cruel to its colonial subjects, they also allowed them to hold high ranking positions in their military & attended its top universities in their empire. By contrast how many Brasilian blacks were even allowed to read and write? They were used as plantation labor under the most grueling conditions. The best university in Taiwan today was started by Japan as part of their imperial system. Today that university is ranked among the best in the world. How many universities of that calibre were started for Brazils black slaves

Technically the Taiwanese were colonial subjects not slaves.

How many Brasilian slaves were allowed an education or admitted to university?

Plus they were imported from Africa on slave ships where many died on the wsy to the Americas.

Japan may have been cruel to its colonial subjects but they didn’t import them on slave ships


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Unread postPosted: December 29th, 2018, 11:32 pm 
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JOE wrote:
Fashionista wrote:
Japan utilized slave labour throughout it's empire and even in Japan itself until 1945..

Japan and Taiwan are prosperous nations today despite having slavery less than one hundred years ago.


While I don’t doubt that Imperial Japan could be very cruel to its colonial subjects, they also allowed them to hold high ranking positions in their military & attended its top universities in their empire. By contrast how many Brasilian blacks were even allowed to read and write? They were used as plantation labor under the most grueling conditions. The best university in Taiwan today was started by Japan as part of their imperial system. Today that university is ranked among the best in the world. How many universities of that calibre were started for Brazils black slaves

Technically the Taiwanese were colonial subjects not slaves.

How many Brasilian slaves were allowed an education or admitted to university?

Plus they were imported from Africa on slave ships where many died on the wsy to the Americas.

Japan may have been cruel to its colonial subjects but they didn’t import them on slave ships

Japan had forced labour in Taiwan..

Taiwanese were not allowed to speak, or read their own language just like African slaves throughout the Americas..

Taiwanese conscripts were used shields in Japan's military campaigns.

Taiwanese women were slightly above dogs and higher education was off limits unless you could do something for Japan..

Slavery is slavery..

East Asia had slavery after it was abolished everywhere in the Americas.


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Unread postPosted: December 30th, 2018, 4:16 am 

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I think what you describe is not slavery but colonialism.

The latter may contain some elements of the former, but it is not outright slavery which existed in the Americas prior to the 20th century. Slaves were never allowed to own land (unless freed), could not run for elected office, or hold key posts on any government. Under a slave system, a Mahatma Ghandi couldnt get an education as a lawyer, travel abroad nor live like the British upper class. Plus a slave could be dold or auctioned off in q slave market.

The same goes for Taiwan. While its inhabitants were toiling under near slave like conditions, there were still some who achieved rank in the Japanese army. And there was an educated class of Taiwanese who attended the best university in Taiwan & even traveled abroad to study in the USA or Britain. Thats not a slave system. Slavery would never allow any slave to rise to any position of prominence. A slave was a piece of property to be bought and sold. I believe inhabitants of Taiwan like those of the British Empire were colonial subjects. If they could get passports, they were not Taiwanese but Japanese. And of course the orders cane from Japan much like India was once ruled by laws passed in th British House of Commons in Libdin.

A primary reason colonial systems existed was so the mother country could impose its will by having the locals or subjects do the bidding for them. I suppose it was not a just system, but it wasn’t slavery lije that which existed in the United States ir Brazil.


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Hey Fash, old Joe is saying that blacks are incapable to bounce back from adversity and flourish the way whites and Orientals can and do.

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The world slaves comes from "eslaves", the white people who used to live in the Southern European Caucasus area

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Hey Fash, old Joe is saying that blacks are incapable to bounce back from adversity and flourish the way whites and Orientals can and do.

Joe is right for a change. :laugh3:

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Unread postPosted: April 20th, 2019, 5:12 pm 
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JOE wrote:
Maybe the OP should stop blaming Rio’s inhabitants instead of the people who put them there.



Balsnaro should be reminded that Brazil did not officially abolish slavery till nearly the 20 the century

That was many years after the United States abolished slavery

You reap what ya sow, Bal.

You’re blaming somebody for a problem that you’re own ancestors created



Yes, 1888 was date here. Quite late, indeed. Whatever was left of it, anyway, because way before that, the sons of slaves were free when they were born, the ones older than 60 too, buying their freedom was achieved by many before 30 after the 1700's. Also, quilombos and other types of refuges made running away easy and the farmers usually didn't bother. And also, ships were bringing in more Africans, who heard this was a much better place to live than that wonderful Africa.

And after that, they were allowed to cultivate lands and there was no KKK persecuting them here.

They weren't being segregated in schools or buses, they were allowed to go to the most beautiful and prosperous places in Brazil, like Rio and São Paulo.

Also, miscegenation worked as a liberal's dream here. African culture and religion here was much more accepted and incorporated the in the US, for example.

What you see there in the videos are the result of lax laws, hypocrisy and demagogy at very high levels.

I'll tell what's the real matter here. People lived from the generous land and the tropical climate made it very easy for a long time.

And it was ok for a long time. But then, progress came and living of the nature suddenly became hard and demeaning.

People gave their lands for nothing, all moved to the big centers under, gasp, guess who, the first liberals governments we had here, who DESPERATELY needed those votes in the capitals in the center-west and southeast.

And of a sudden, slums popped up everywhere, people became dependent on handouts and welfare. Crime became rampant and the proximity to countries that produce 99% of all the coke in world didn't help much either, with Americans and European financing the drug trafficking.

So save me from your uninformed bullshit and "slavery is the cause" crappola.

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Unread postPosted: April 20th, 2019, 5:14 pm 
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Fashionista wrote:
JOE wrote:
Fashionista wrote:
Japan utilized slave labour throughout it's empire and even in Japan itself until 1945..

Japan and Taiwan are prosperous nations today despite having slavery less than one hundred years ago.


While I don’t doubt that Imperial Japan could be very cruel to its colonial subjects, they also allowed them to hold high ranking positions in their military & attended its top universities in their empire. By contrast how many Brasilian blacks were even allowed to read and write? They were used as plantation labor under the most grueling conditions. The best university in Taiwan today was started by Japan as part of their imperial system. Today that university is ranked among the best in the world. How many universities of that calibre were started for Brazils black slaves

Technically the Taiwanese were colonial subjects not slaves.

How many Brasilian slaves were allowed an education or admitted to university?

Plus they were imported from Africa on slave ships where many died on the wsy to the Americas.

Japan may have been cruel to its colonial subjects but they didn’t import them on slave ships

Japan had forced labour in Taiwan..

Taiwanese were not allowed to speak, or read their own language just like African slaves throughout the Americas..

Taiwanese conscripts were used shields in Japan's military campaigns.

Taiwanese women were slightly above dogs and higher education was off limits unless you could do something for Japan..

Slavery is slavery..

East Asia had slavery after it was abolished everywhere in the Americas.


Some people are dumber than others because of their culture and trying to fix that or even mentioning that has become a crime or at least, politically incorrect.

And lefties have learned to capitalize on that very well in many countries.

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Unread postPosted: April 20th, 2019, 5:16 pm 
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BALLSONARO wrote:
JOE wrote:
Maybe the OP should stop blaming Rio’s inhabitants instead of the people who put them there.



Balsnaro should be reminded that Brazil did not officially abolish slavery till nearly the 20 the century

That was many years after the United States abolished slavery

You reap what ya sow, Bal.

You’re blaming somebody for a problem that you’re own ancestors created



Yes, 1888 was date here. Quite late, indeed. Whatever was left of it, anyway, because way before that, the sons of slaves were free when they were born, the ones older than 60 too, buying their freedom was achieved by many before 30 after the 1700's. Also, quilombos and other types of refuges made running away easy and the farmers usually didn't bother. And also, ships were bringing in more Africans, who heard this was a much better place to live than that wonderful Africa.

And after that, they were allowed to cultivate lands and there was no KKK persecuting them here.

They weren't being segregated in schools or buses, they were allowed to go to the most beautiful and prosperous places in Brazil, like Rio and São Paulo.

Also, miscegenation worked as a liberal's dream here. African culture and religion here was much more accepted and incorporated the in the US, for example.

What you see there in the videos are the result of lax laws, hypocrisy and demagogy at very high levels.

I'll tell what's the real matter here. People lived from the generous land and the tropical climate made it very easy for a long time.

And it was ok for a long time. But then, progress came and living of the nature suddenly became hard and demeaning.

People gave their lands for nothing, all moved to the big centers under, gasp, guess who, the first liberals governments we had here, who DESPERATELY needed those votes in the capitals in the center-west and southeast.

And of a sudden, slums popped up everywhere, people became dependent on handouts and welfare. Crime became rampant and the proximity to countries that produce 99% of all the coke in world didn't help much either, with Americans and European financing the drug trafficking.

So save me from your uninformed bullshit and "slavery is the cause" crappola.

Just so you know BALLSONARO, Joe doesn't care..

He only posts to get reactions from people..

He personally finds derailing topics entertaining,


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Unread postPosted: April 20th, 2019, 5:19 pm 
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Just so you know BALLSONARO, Joe doesn't care..

He only posts to get reactions from people..

He personally finds derailing topics entertaining,


I think he's the same Joe from the lib shithole CBT

So it makes a lot of sense

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Unread postPosted: April 20th, 2019, 5:26 pm 
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BALLSONARO wrote:
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Just so you know BALLSONARO, Joe doesn't care..

He only posts to get reactions from people..

He personally finds derailing topics entertaining,


I think he's the same Joe from the lib shithole CBT

So it makes a lot of sense

He's on every forum, so that could be.


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Unread postPosted: April 20th, 2019, 5:32 pm 
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BALLSONARO wrote:
Fashionista wrote:
Just so you know BALLSONARO, Joe doesn't care..

He only posts to get reactions from people..

He personally finds derailing topics entertaining,


I think he's the same Joe from the lib shithole CBT

So it makes a lot of sense


Nothing Joe does makes sense.

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