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UN Migration Compact

Started by Anonymous, December 06, 2018, 11:40:00 AM

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Anonymous

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Quote from: "Gaon"Did Odinson's country sign on to this? I would imagine they did. NW Europe is globalist.


They are planning on it..





Look... Its not legally binding.





Certain elements have taken this as their flagship to gain political power.









The same politicians here whom are supporting this compact, are at the same time writing new laws that will cause near all of the refugees to get deported..





We are deporting 70-80% of immigrant applicants now... Thats straight away..





The number will increase in the near future.

I'm  aware of that, but like Seoul said our prime minister treats these voluntary international agreements like they were treaties.


Its a good thing you are behind the atlantic then..

What do you mean by that?


The atlantic ocean stops the biggest refugee swarms from coming to N-America.

Oh, I see what you mean.

Bricktop

I'm interested by the fact that the architect of this socialist nonsense is a Canadian, yet none of you Canucks seem fit to comment.



How can an UNELECTED Canadian be given the responsibility to influence nations like this?



What is it about the Canadian psyche that generates this kind of nonsense right through to it's own PM.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"I'm interested by the fact that the architect of this socialist nonsense is a Canadian, yet none of you Canucks seem fit to comment.



How can an UNELECTED Canadian be given the responsibility to influence nations like this?



What is it about the Canadian psyche that generates this kind of nonsense right through to it's own PM.

This country is very proggy.

Bricktop

Clearly.



The whole "pact" smells of Trudeau like globalism, in who's world there are unicorns, people travel on rainbows and everybody is peaceful, happy and harmonious.



Meanwhile, in the real world, the enemy is still at our gates.

Anonymous

Here's one view on the UN plan.



Migrant compact signed – here's how the problems will unfold



Immigration, both legal and illegal, is becoming the unspoken undercurrent of Western politics. And the Global Compact on Migrants will only make matters worse.



In the past two years, populist governments have been elected (or populist parties have been given bigger roles in coalition governments) in Italy, Sweden, Belgium, Poland, Hungary and elsewhere. This has been because, unlike mainline parties, the populists have been willing to admit immigration is an issue.



Even in the recent Quebec provincial election, the Coalition Avenir Québec (CAQ) won, in part, because unlike the Liberals and the Parti Quebecois, the CAQ was prepared to say there was a problem with the large number of illegal immigrants being allowed by Ottawa to stream into Quebec from New York state.



U.S. President Donald Trump may not have won in 2016 solely because of his stance on building a wall to separate America from Mexico, but his immigration policy typified popular frustration with "progressive" politicians, regardless of political stripe.



Mainline liberal politicians refuse to admit, even to themselves, there is any problem with wide open immigration. Their policies reinforce their self-image that they are the epitome of enlightenment and tolerance.



Meanwhile, most mainline conservatives won't take up immigration for fear of being branded racists by mainline liberals and the "progressive" media, and for fear of missing out on the votes of enlarging ethnic communities.



That means voters who are worried about losing their jobs or having their cultures submerged by immigration have no traditional political outlet for their concerns. Disgruntled voters, then, fill the resulting leadership vacuum with anti-immigrant populists who over-estimate the dangers in much the same way the mainliners underestimate them.



The problem with the Global Compact — signed by nearly 150 nations at a conference in Marrakesh, Morocco, on Monday — is not that it will set up some global government to enforce free migration of hundreds of millions of people over the objections of democratically elected national governments. Rather, the compact will be used by "progressives" in Western countries to promote and defend their existing politically correct agendas.



Take, for instance, the thousands of illegal immigrants flooding into Quebec each year (and, to a lesser extent, Manitoba). The Trudeau government clearly wants to take them in. They think admitting these newcomers will prove how caring Canada and its Liberals are.



The border-crossers, most of whom come from Nigeria and Haiti, are clearly illegal. They arrive at our border without having applied or been granted permission to enter. And they are not in fear for their lives.



Yet the Trudeau government knows that if Canadians are permitted to call these immigrants "illegal," it will make the Liberals' goal of accepting them all more difficult. So since earlier this year, the Trudeau-ites have insisted they be referred to as "irregular migrants."



Not coincidentally, that is the same vocabulary used in the UN'S new compact. And now that the compact is signed, we can expect our own Liberal government (rather than some shadowy New World Order) to start using the compact to justify their actions.



The new compact might also be used to censor those who criticize immigration. (That's one of the document's stated goals, in fact.)



Antonio Guterres, the UN Secretary-general, speaking in Morocco on Monday, explained it was necessary to stop criticism of migrants because that dehumanizes them, and dehumanization is an early step towards fascism. Sorry, but isn't suppression of free speech also an early step towards fascism?



It's not hard to imagine, though, a Canadian human rights commission using our country's signature on the "meaningless" compact to rule that legitimate opposition to immigration policies amounts to hate speech and must, therefore, be banned.



Then imagine how popular the populists will become.

Anonymous

And here is another view.



Migrant pact approved – and the sky didn't fall



Notwithstanding the hysterical campaign by often misinformed European and North American pundits and politicians, the much-maligned UN Migration Pact was acclaimed yesterday in Marrakesh, Morocco, by nearly 85% of the member countries of the UN.



The sky did not fall as a total of 164 countries among the 193 UN members approved the non-binding accord to ensure safe, orderly and humane migration.



Last week in this space I wrote about how remarks by Dutch right-wing politician Marcel de Graaff spread like wildfire and was used by numerous folks with genuine concern about the future of Canada and other Western countries in the face of millions pouring over our border.



Elsewhere, in Sweden, a website with close ties to anti-immigrant groups published several false claims about the UN Pact. Among them was a petition claiming the UN text would "consider illegal immigration to be a human right" and that "Sweden will sign the UN migration framework and open the borders."



Catherine Nicholson of the French TV network France 24 did a "Fact or Fake" segment to check into the veracity of rumours that the UN Migration Pact would 'consider illegal immigration a human right' France 24 found the postings totally fake and without merit.



None other than Conservative Party leader Andrew Scheer fell for the ruse and raised the issue in the House of Commons. His contrived anger was quickly doused by fellow Conservative Chris Alexander who was Canada's Citizenship and Immigration Minister under Prime Minister Stephen Harper's government.



"Scheer's statement is factually incorrect: This Compact is a political declaration, not a legally binding treaty. It has no impact on our sovereignty," he tweeted.



Yet the barrage against the Migration Pact would just not stop. Former Ontario Premier Bob Rae explained the phenomenon rather succinctly: "Repeating a lie doesn't make it true. Just makes it a bigger lie," he tweeted.



As a migrant in Canada, I realized that there was more to it than meets the eye. Critics running around like Chicken Little were not averse to seeing Filipinos or Venezuelans in our midst. Thousands of students from India enrich our universities while the boat people of Vietnam have long immersed into our fabric.



The fact is Canadians fear the arrival of Islamic radicals bringing anti-west values like polygamy, burka, sharia-based laws and segregation into our society, but no one wishes to be labelled 'Islamophobic.' The truth is every time a Burka-clad woman crosses our path, she triggers fear, aversion, and strengthens the 'otherness' of her presence.



As a Muslim, this is my sword to carry. The fear of the Muslim radical is real. The damage done by Islamic terrorists and Jew-hating clerics can still be undone, but not if Islamists can prove to new recruits that Western society is intolerant.



As for the pact, the words President Julius Maada Bio of Sierra Leone spoke on Monday may give readers an insight into the world of 25 million people rotting in refugee camps, all in Africa and Asia, not a single one in the West:



"I understand why are jittery about a loss of physical and social security or cultural and physical identities. ... As a nation, we have experienced all ends of this problem. We have suffered devastating protracted conflict and epidemics. We have been neighbours of countries embroiled in violent conflict. We have been both a country of origin and destination for displaced persons and refugees. We also understand constraints on state resources in the absence of effective and adequate international coordination."

Berry Sweet

I want the west to separate from the east.  Stop giving our taxes to Quebec and Ontario.  We are not responsible for their fuck ups.



Quebec wants 300 million from JT for all the migrants that came in.  Keep all the migrants in the east and they can pay for it themselves.  I can only imagine how much Ontario is in the hole.  Theres a murder everyday there now, and they broke their record this year.



I really hope JT gets voted out next year.  Scheer is ok, not the greatest, but I'll vote him to get JT out.

Anonymous

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Quotethe compact will be used by "progressives" in Western countries to promote and defend their existing politically correct agendas.



Take, for instance, the thousands of illegal immigrants flooding into Quebec each year (and, to a lesser extent, Manitoba). The Trudeau government clearly wants to take them in. They think admitting these newcomers will prove how caring Canada and its Liberals are.



The border-crossers, most of whom come from Nigeria and Haiti, are clearly illegal. They arrive at our border without having applied or been granted permission to enter. And they are not in fear for their lives.



Yet the Trudeau government knows that if Canadians are permitted to call these immigrants "illegal," it will make the Liberals' goal of accepting them all more difficult. So since earlier this year, the Trudeau-ites have insisted they be referred to as "irregular migrants."



Not coincidentally, that is the same vocabulary used in the UN'S new compact

Wazzzup

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Quotethe compact will be used by "progressives" in Western countries to promote and defend their existing politically correct agendas.



Take, for instance, the thousands of illegal immigrants flooding into Quebec each year (and, to a lesser extent, Manitoba). The Trudeau government clearly wants to take them in. They think admitting these newcomers will prove how caring Canada and its Liberals are.



The border-crossers, most of whom come from Nigeria and Haiti, are clearly illegal. They arrive at our border without having applied or been granted permission to enter. And they are not in fear for their lives.



Yet the Trudeau government knows that if Canadians are permitted to call these immigrants "illegal," it will make the Liberals' goal of accepting them all more difficult. So since earlier this year, the Trudeau-ites have insisted they be referred to as "irregular migrants."



Not coincidentally, that is the same vocabulary used in the UN'S new compact
Trudeau was already trying to make Canada's immigration system like ours and/or Western Europe's--A total disaster.  And now with this UN insanity he will probably be able to pull it off.

Thiel

I see signatory countries eventually having less control over who enters their countries. That is not a desirable situation.
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Bricktop

Worse, it is NOT justifiable, except in the mind of a bonehead Canadian academic female who thinks everybody is quite capable of getting on with everybody else, and if you don't it's the white MAN'S fault, anyway.

Thiel

Quote from: "Bricktop"Worse, it is NOT justifiable, except in the mind of a bonehead Canadian academic female who thinks everybody is quite capable of getting on with everybody else, and if you don't it's the white MAN'S fault, anyway.

I get it that it's voluntary. But, as others have said, our prime minister will make it legal in Canada.
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Bricktop

Why construct this asinine scheme in the first place, if less astute, progressive nations don't make it L A W.



This is a scheme to distribute people from less successful and affluent nations into those that have worked for, and earned, their wealth.



It's like advocating that everyone should open their doors and allow homeless people to move in...as in the early days of the Russian Bolshevik government.