Huwawei's CEO arrested in Vancouver

[cc]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-will-retaliate-huawei-cfo-meng-wanzhous-arrest-may-take-hostages-expert-says">China could 'take hostages' and is almost certain to retaliate against the United States, experts say, after the stunning arrest of a top Chinese tech executive for allegedly trying to skirt sanctions on Iran.



Huawei Technologies' chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou was arrested Saturday in Canada and faces extradition to the U.S. Meng was taken into custody on behalf of the U.S. while she was transferring flights in Vancouver, the tech company said.



Chinese officials on Thursday blasted Meng's arrest — but experts warn more forceful actions, including the possibility of tit-for-tat detentions of high-profile citizens, could be coming.

[Bricktop]

Why should she as a Chinese national be subject to what I believe, correct me if I'm wrong here, an embargo by Western aligned nations which China is not a part of?



Whether the embargo is righteous or not, countries can't legislate their rules abroad to other nations who don't agree.



So this woman suffers for no damn good reason.

"U.S. authorities have been probing Huawei's alleged shipping of American-origin products to Iran in violation of U.S. export and sanctions laws, sources told Reuters in April."



This would be an offence in the USA. Therefore a warrant for her arrest could be issued, and as Canada has an extradition treaty with America she can legally be detained in Canada and extradited to the US, if the Canadian judge accepts that she has a case to answer.



If the judge determines there is no case to answer, then she is released.



And while China protests and jumps up and down in indignation, it should be remembered it has quite a history of arresting foreign nationals engaging in business in China. Freud apparently has forgotten the recent arrest of Australian nationals in China.



And of course, China is a pillar of human rights recognition.

[Anonymous]

The prime minister's office has been insistent it was an independent legal decision to arrest her and they had nothing to do with it.

[JOE]

The prime minister's office has been insistent it was an independent legal decision to arrest her and they had nothing to do with it.

Unless Canada presents a clear case against the woman, she should be released.



Chinese authorities have emphasized that she has not been given due process and I think theyre right.



If Canada extradites her to the USA just because they demand it then we look like a puppet of the United States & our Prime Minister looks very weak.

[Anonymous]

Canada's extradition process explained



OTTAWA — Canada's Department of Justice, through its International Assistance Group, helps Canadian and foreign police and prosecutors by extraditing people to face prosecution or sentencing in the country in which they are charged or convicted.



The Extradition Act provides Ottawa with the legal basis to extradite individuals located in Canada who are sought by an extradition partner. Those partners include:



Countries, such as the United States, with which Canada has an extradition agreement (a bilateral treaty or a multilateral convention);



Countries with which Canada has entered into a case-specific agreement; or



Countries or international courts whose names appear in the schedule to the Extradition Act.



In all cases, the conduct for which extradition is sought must be considered criminal in both the requesting country and in Canada.



There are three key stages to the Canadian extradition process.



First, Justice Minister Jody Wilson-raybould must determine whether to authorize the start of extradition proceedings in the Canadian courts by issuing what's known as an "Authority to Proceed."



Once an Authority to Proceed has been issued, the Canadian courts must determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify the person's committal for extradition. When someone is committed for extradition, the justice minister must personally decide whether to order the person's surrender to the foreign state.



Someone sought for extradition may appeal their committal and seek judicial review of the minister's surrender order — a process that can play out for months or even years in the courts.

[JOE]

Canada's extradition process explained



OTTAWA — Canada's Department of Justice, through its International Assistance Group, helps Canadian and foreign police and prosecutors by extraditing people to face prosecution or sentencing in the country in which they are charged or convicted.



The Extradition Act provides Ottawa with the legal basis to extradite individuals located in Canada who are sought by an extradition partner. Those partners include:



Countries, such as the United States, with which Canada has an extradition agreement (a bilateral treaty or a multilateral convention);



Countries with which Canada has entered into a case-specific agreement; or



Countries or international courts whose names appear in the schedule to the Extradition Act.



In all cases, the conduct for which extradition is sought must be considered criminal in both the requesting country and in Canada.



There are three key stages to the Canadian extradition process.



First, Justice Minister Jody Wilson-raybould must determine whether to authorize the start of extradition proceedings in the Canadian courts by issuing what's known as an "Authority to Proceed."



Once an Authority to Proceed has been issued, the Canadian courts must determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify the person's committal for extradition. When someone is committed for extradition, the justice minister must personally decide whether to order the person's surrender to the foreign state.



Someone sought for extradition may appeal their committal and seek judicial review of the minister's surrender order — a process that can play out for months or even years in the courts.

Yeah but what precisely are the charges against this woman?



Did she break any Canadian laws?



If not, then she should be released and allowed to return to China

[Bricktop]

Yeah but what precisely are the charges against this woman?



Did she break any Canadian laws?



If not, then she should be released and allowed to return to China

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46490053">//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46490053



She is alleged to have made false statements to the US in regards to the bona fides of one of their subsidiaries. This is an offence.



She does not have to break Canadian laws to be arrested, where the US has an extradition treaty in place with Canada and an arrest warrant has been issued.



A Canadian judge hears the argument from Canadian attorneys briefed by the US as to the nature of the offences alleged and that the person in custody is the person that is accused of committing the crimes. He or she then orders extradition to the US.

[Anonymous]

Yeah but what precisely are the charges against this woman?



Did she break any Canadian laws?



If not, then she should be released and allowed to return to China

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46490053">//https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46490053



She is alleged to have made false statements to the US in regards to the bona fides of one of their subsidiaries. This is an offence.



She does not have to break Canadian laws to be arrested, where the US has an extradition treaty in place with Canada and an arrest warrant has been issued.



A Canadian judge hears the argument from Canadian attorneys briefed by the US as to the nature of the offences alleged and that the person in custody is the person that is accused of committing the crimes. He or she then orders extradition to the US.

She is wanted by the USA on Iran fraud charges..



I remember China once not that long ago, Peking asked Canada to do the same for a business person  they wanted arrested.

[cc]

Did she break any Canadian laws?

Goof troll material, but Totally MOOT in the real world!!

[cc]

In an interview, former Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper said that https://globalnews.ca/news/4740979/stephen-harper-canada-ban-huawei-5g/?utm_source=GlobalNews&utm_medium=Facebook">he supports American efforts to persuade its western allies, including Canada, to ban Huawei from emerging 5G networks.



"I obviously note that the United States is encouraging western allies to essentially push Huawei out of the emerging 5G network and my personal view is that that is something western countries should be doing in terms of our own long-term security issues," Harper said in an interview.



[A bit of a no-brainer, but seems some still can't smell the tea]



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[JOE]

Did she break any Canadian laws?

Goof troll material, but Totally MOOT in the real world!!

Canada should not be required to do America 's bidding/dirty work.



If America has a problem with China they should arrest, chase after & detain her themselves.



Lately the USA had treated Canadian citizens like shit - ie the Guy who received a lifetime ban from entering the USA  for merely trading pot stocks.



America shakes a big stick & rails against supposed lawbreakers and then turns around & does whatever it wants.



This is America 's problem not ours.



They should fuck off.



The Huawei ceo should be released & allowed to go home.

[Anonymous]

Did she break any Canadian laws?

Goof troll material, but Totally MOOT in the real world!!

I ignore Joe, so I only see his attention whoring nonsense if someone quotes it. Thanks for not doing that.

[JOE]

Did she break any Canadian laws?

Goof troll material, but Totally MOOT in the real world!!

I ignore Joe, so I only see his attention whoring nonsense if someone quotes it. Thanks for not doing that.

You put people on ignore because youre a typically closeminded narrowminded korean numbskull.



This situation was blown out of proportion and the approach by the USA revealed their ineptitude & that of the Trump administration.



Thats why we have world trade bodies, trade agreements & international courts if law, so nations dont have to resort to kidnapping/detaining other nations ceos.



This is taking a step back, the USA didnt handle this situation very well at all.

[Bricktop]

Did she break any Canadian laws?

Goof troll material, but Totally MOOT in the real world!!

Canada should not be required to do America 's bidding/dirty work.



If America has a problem with China they should arrest, chase after & detain her themselves.



Lately the USA had treated Canadian citizens like shit - ie the Guy who received a lifetime ban from entering the USA  for merely trading pot stocks.



America shakes a big stick & rails against supposed lawbreakers and then turns around & does whatever it wants.



This is America 's problem not ours.



They should fuck off.



The Huawei ceo should be released & allowed to go home.

Your idiocy never fails to raise a smile.



Without extradition treaties, criminals would be free to commit a crime in Canada, and then take a single step over the American border and be beyond Canada's reach.



By the way, Joe...extradition treaties also allow nations to seek extradition of other nation's citizens. If an American committed a crime in Canada and legs it back across the border, the existence of an extradition treaty means that Canada can ask the US to transport him to Canada for judicial process.

[Anonymous]

Did she break any Canadian laws?

Goof troll material, but Totally MOOT in the real world!!

Canada should not be required to do America 's bidding/dirty work.



If America has a problem with China they should arrest, chase after & detain her themselves.



Lately the USA had treated Canadian citizens like shit - ie the Guy who received a lifetime ban from entering the USA  for merely trading pot stocks.



America shakes a big stick & rails against supposed lawbreakers and then turns around & does whatever it wants.



This is America 's problem not ours.



They should fuck off.



The Huawei ceo should be released & allowed to go home.

Your idiocy never fails to raise a smile.



Without extradition treaties, criminals would be free to commit a crime in Canada, and then take a single step over the American border and be beyond Canada's reach.



By the way, Joe...extradition treaties also allow nations to seek extradition of other nation's citizens. If an American committed a crime in Canada and legs it back across the border, the existence of an extradition treaty means that Canada can ask the US to transport him to Canada for judicial process.

In these discussions, JOE doesn't read what people write.