UN says Trudeau’s emissions impossible

[JOE]

Germans are paying more than ever for electricity.



German household power prices at record high

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Energy has always been expensive in Germany



Even if they used gas it'd still be expensive.



Much more than we pay because they'd have to import it.



So for a crowded country like that with a small land mass it makes sense to use solar & other forms of alternative energy sources.

[Berry Sweet]

Everyone knows that JTs carbon tax is just a cash grab.  Notice how nobody is doing nothing to change our ways of living? We need change, and we need it NOW.  Not some tax.  Everyone needs to change their ways of living, eating, etc.  This needs to be highly promoted...but it wont  because it wont make money and people will complain about it.

Berry, does this mean you won't be voting for Trudeau? ac_wot

I've voted in every election since I was 18.  For the first time in my life, I actually feel I dont want to vote at all, I just dont care.  But I know I will feel guilty if I dont.



No.  I will not vote for Trudeau.  Will you?

[Gaon]

Everyone knows that JTs carbon tax is just a cash grab.  Notice how nobody is doing nothing to change our ways of living? We need change, and we need it NOW.  Not some tax.  Everyone needs to change their ways of living, eating, etc.  This needs to be highly promoted...but it wont  because it wont make money and people will complain about it.

Berry, does this mean you won't be voting for Trudeau? ac_wot

I've voted in every election since I was 18.  For the first time in my life, I actually feel I dont want to vote at all, I just dont care.  But I know I will feel guilty if I dont.



No.  I will not vote for Trudeau.  Will you?

Judging by his harsh criticism of the Canadian prime minister, my guess is no he won't. If I could vote, it would not be for Justin Trudeau.

[Anonymous]

A job killing, cost of living increasing tax on a tax by the Trudeau regime.



BY Kenneth Green, analyst as the Fraser Institute



Beware — stealthy carbon tax edging closer to reality



The Trudeau government is moving toward a Clean Fuel Standard (CFS) for Canada — basically, a set of government mandates to use transportation fuels that are lower in greenhouse gas emissions.



As I observed last year, [size=150]the CFS might raise gasoline prices at the pump by five cents per litre, and hike the price of natural gas and other energy prices as well.[/size]



The Alberta economy could lose 1% of GDP by 2030.



And in Alberta, this would pile on top of other climate regulations such as the 100 megatonne restriction on oilsand emissions, methane gas reduction regulations, and of course, Alberta's carbon tax.



[size=150]Both the Canadian Manufacturers and Exporters (CME) and C.D. Howe have expressed concerns about the clean fuel standard and called for a "fully costed economic review" of Ottawa's national CFS plan.

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If the way the Trudeau government introduced its carbon backstop plan is any guide, you shouldn't hold your breath for that review.



One important thing to understand about clean fuel standards is that they are akin to a carbon tax.



Ottawa is simply imposing a tax on top of its proposed escalating carbon tax, which will bite, if one remembers, at $50 per tonne in 2022.



Here's how clean fuel standards work.



Government forces fuel importers and providers to use fuels that lead to lower greenhouse gas emissions.



Those that cannot do so economically can buy "clean fuel credits" from the suppliers of those cleaner forms of power, whether that's ethanol fuel, wind power, solar power, etc.



One reason governments like clean fuel standards is that they satisfy several desires of governments without being obvious to taxpayers.



Clean fuel standards work by forcing people to preferentially buy lower-carbon fuels — fuels which, as we've seen vividly in Toronto, tend to be significantly more expensive than conventional natural gas, hydro or nuclear power.



A second benefit for government is that clean fuel standards are a type of subsidy to businesses and energy forms they favour.



By forcing consumers to buy certain kinds of fuels, the providers of those fuels can get subsidies from the people who have to buy clean fuel credits.



Finally, Ottawa likes to boast about carbon tax "efficiency" while ignoring fundamental principles of carbon taxation.



One of those principles is that carbon taxes must displace other carbon regulations.



It must be fully "revenue neutral," with revenues used to offset other distortionary taxes such as personal and corporate income taxes.



For a few years, British Columbia lived up to the latter standard, but all too quickly, revenue neutrality was off the table.



It's also off the table in Alberta and was off the table in Ontario prior to the rollback of cap-and-trade by Premier Doug Ford.



Everyone loves the idea of using more "clean energy," but governments see this as more of an opportunity to raise revenues and micromanage the energy economy, leaving consumers across the country holding the bag for higher fuel prices and higher everything-else prices that go along with raising the cost of fuels at the intake-end of production.



Ottawa should think about Canadian consumers for a change, and stop dumping on us regulation after regulation that lightens our pocketbooks.

[Anonymous]

It's not too late for Trudeau to axe the hated carbon tax



One of Justin Trudeau's signature promises as Liberal leader was to abolish our first-past-the-post system of voting in federal elections. And shortly after winning his majority, a panel of MPs toured the country to sell Canadians on the idea.



But the conversation was a mess. Public opinion was divided. The alternatives were confusing. And those who did want electoral reform were mixed on what changes they wanted.



So the prime minister went ahead with the only logical option: He cancelled the whole thing. Electoral reform was shelved.



It was the right call to make at the time. He should consider doing the same with the much-loathed carbon tax now.



Last week, the Saskatchewan Court of Appeal case got underway where that province, along with Ontario and New Brunswick, argued that the federal Liberals did not in fact have the authority to ram the tax down their throats, against their wishes.





Trudeau said if provinces didn't implement a version of carbon pricing that the feds were happy with, he'd enact his own version as something of a backstop.



It boggles the mind the Liberals think that it's wise to take the provinces to court in an election year to fight for their right to impose an extra tax on people.





Then again, there may not be much electoral calculus in all of this. Trudeau and those around him seem to be true believers when it comes to climate alarmism.



Regardless of their motives, their tactics are all wrong. It is simply not a mature and healthy approach to governing to head to court over disagreements about public policy.



If a consensus can't be formed, then the Liberals should simply abandon their plans. This has caused needless chaos and animosity between governments.



While Trudeau has invested a lot of capital in this battle, it's never too late to back down from it.



If he doesn't get what he wants from the courts, he can opt to not take it to the Supreme Court of Canada. And, if Trudeau does get the ruling he wants, he can still decide not to impose the tax.



This should be about co-operation. Not imposition.

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[Anonymous]

Justine backed down on electoral reform because there was nothing in it for him. The kind of reform people want would harm not help his reelection. Carbon cash grabs are different. He wants accolades from international champagne socialists. He wants them to say he's showing leadership by making average people poorer.

[Bricktop]

If you want to know what preferential voting looks like, check out our system.



Then be grateful you've stuck with first past the post.

[Anonymous]

If you want to know what preferential voting looks like, check out our system.



Then be grateful you've stuck with first past the post.

I believe that is what our pm wanted.

[Berry Sweet]

JT got himself in a pickle right now.  Not sure how he plans on getting himself out of this.

[Bricktop]

Declare a national emergency?

[Anonymous]

JT got himself in a pickle right now.  Not sure how he plans on getting himself out of this.

This latest scandal will probably not stick to him.

[Anonymous]

Trudeau and his environment minister are idiots.

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[Anonymous]

Today is day one of Trudeau's forced carbon tax on my province. It does not move the climate needle and will not even allow Canada to meet the pointless targets of the useless Paris Agreement. It is more virtue signalling.



By Lorrie Goldstein of Sun News Media



All pain, and no gain

Trudeau's carbon tax will cost us all, and still not meet Paris climate targets



TORONTO — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's carbon tax will be imposed on Ontario today over the objections of Premier Doug Ford, who is challenging its legality in court.



Trudeau is promising rebates that exceed its costs for the public and dramatic reductions in industrial greenhouse gas emissions linked to climate change.



Extreme scepticism about these claims is warranted.



First, while Trudeau promises his carbon tax will be "revenue neutral" for the federal government, the public has no way of determining whether it will be revenue neutral for them.



We'll have to take Trudeau's word for it, as we did on his 2015 election prediction Canada's budget would be balanced in the 2019-20 fiscal year, with a $1 billion surplus.



Trudeau's latest budget pegs the 2019-20 deficit at $19.8 billion, $16.8 billion if you exclude its $3 billion reserve fund.



Second, Trudeau's claim his carbon tax will be revenue neutral for his government isn't true.



[size=150]Ottawa will collect the 5% goods and services tax on Trudeau's carbon tax — a tax on a tax — initially raising hundreds of millions of dollars in new tax revenue for the Trudeau government across Canada, eventually rising to billions of dollars.

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Third, no government in Canada that already has carbon pricing has a revenue neutral carbon tax — meaning the government lowers other taxes so that its revenue from the carbon tax does not increase government revenues.



B.C.'S carbon tax, implemented in 2008, started out as revenue neutral but no longer is.



Ontario's cap-and-trade scheme, imposed by former premier Kathleen Wynne and scrapped by Ford, was never revenue neutral.



Fourth, [size=150]Trudeau has refused to tell Canadians how high his carbon tax will go after 2022 if he wins re-election on Oct. 21, even though that's clearly his plan.

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For now, Trudeau's carbon tax starts at $20 per tonne of emissions on April 1, 2019, rising to $50 per tonne in 2022.



Fifth, while Trudeau and Co. typically cite only the higher costs of gasoline and natural gas used for home heating under his carbon tax, his finance department lists 22 fossil fuels where prices will increase, with costs passed on to consumers in higher prices for goods and services.



The finance department says the tax will increase the cost of gasoline by 4.42 cents per litre in 2019, rising to 11.05 cents per litre in 2022.



The cost of natural gas will rise by 3.91 cents per cubic metre in 2019, rising to 9.79 cents per cubic metre in 2022.



Enbridge Gas, natural gas supplier to most Ontario consumers, says this will increase prices by up to 10.8%, or $93.93 annually, on an annual average residential bill of $873, if its rate application before the Ontario Energy Board is approved. Rates won't change until that happens.



Sixth, [size=150]no credible agency, not the United Nations, or the federal environment commissioner and nine of 10 provincial auditors general, or the government's own studies, believe Trudeau's national carbon pricing plan will meet the emission reduction commitments he made when he signed the Paris climate accord in 2015.[/size]



To do that, his government will have to introduce further measures, costing more public money — possibly including buying billions of dollars of "carbon credits" on fraud-ridden international markets — to achieve Trudeau's goal (which used to be former Conservative prime minister Stephen Harper's) of reducing Canada's emissions to 30% below 2005 levels by 2030.



Trudeau's carbon tax will reduce emissions more than Ford's plan for Ontario, but, in both cases, these reductions will be insignificant on a global scale.



Here's what Trudeau's government says will be the economic impact of his carbon tax on the average Ontario household.



In 2019, it will pay $244 in carbon taxes and receive a rebate from the federal government (calculated from income tax returns) of $300, for a net gain of $56, rising to a cost of $564 with a rebate of $697, for a net gain of $133, in 2022.



But not everyone benefits — 20% to 40% of Ontario households (depending on whose figures you believe) will be worse off financially because they consume more than the average amount of fossil fuel energy.



Small businesses complain they will bear a disproportionate burden of the costs of carbon pricing, and that the rebate system the Trudeau government promised them isn't ready.



Finally, as respected economist Jack Mintz wrote in the National Post last year, once you factor in all the direct and indirect costs of Trudeau's carbon tax, believing it's "going to make everyone richer through magical rebates" is "something right out of The Twilight Zone."

[Anonymous]

The carbon tax-confiscation



The federal carbon is a contentious affair. There are at least four provinces that don't support it. Public opinion is sharply divided with many Canadians strongly opposed to it. And the Saskatchewan Court of Appeal is currently ruling on whether or not Prime Minister Justin Trudeau even has the legal authority to impose this tax on unwilling provinces.



you'd think with all of this drama, the Liberal government would step away from this much-maligned process or at least pause it. nope. not Trudeau. He's doubling down. on Monday, Canadians in ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and new Brunswick will wake up to find the price of gas increased by about 10 cents per litre. And that's just the most immediate and visible price hike. The cost of just about every consumer good will rise as manufacturers include the carbon tax in their products and services.



Life is about to become much more expensive.



A report from Alberta economics professor Jennifer Winter that was presented to the Senate last year used Statistics Canada data to figure out the average hit against people's wallets per household.



nova Scotians and Albertans will pay the highest ($1,120 and $1,111 respectively) while ontarians are at the lower end at $707. regardless, Canadians shouldn't have to shell out hundreds of dollars for an unpopular tax we don't need.



The government has tried to sell Canadians on the notion that the tax will make many households better off. Canadians will later receive a refund for the tax and the government claims some people will get more than they shell out.



This will be almost impossible to prove though. The rebates will be based on income. It's not like Canadians will be asked to keep their receipts and then government bean counters figure out how much they contributed, then give it back.



Everyone could end up paying more and there would be no way to prove it. We just have to trust Trudeau and take him at his word. There is good reason to be cynical about that.



The Liberals have been needlessly stubborn with the carbon tax, forcing it down people's throats.



There are far less contentious ways to be responsible stewards for the environment that they should be employing instead.

[Anonymous]

Trudeau and his environment minister are idiots.

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Justine's carbon tax kicked in today. Gas prices are up. We got to make that guy a part time drama teacher again.