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Bricktop

A. Trees are NOT the world's lungs. You may recall that trees did not arrive until long after the planet was created, and the atmosphere had been formed.



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B. Trees are not efficient recyclers of carbon dioxide.



C. Trees are essential part of the ecosystem, but reducing their numbers will have no impact on breathable air. It will however have other ecological impacts.

caskur

OH boy... I can see you need educating.



The sole problem we have today it 100% caused by reducing the planets forests down to 15% globally.



You cannot take away 85% of the planets trees and expect that not to effect EVERYTHING.



I think the trouble with your generation is, you still think we're living in the good times, the 80s.



The volcanos are spewing out mega-tonnes CO2 daily like nobodies business and there are 85% less trees now soaking it up....





Trees in Australia are green all year round, working day and night doing their job. Crops are only green for a short time, then you have a dead lifeless paddock producing nothing except dust and hot air.





Let's see where you are going to be standing on a 40 degree day... in the middle of a paddock or under a tree...pushing the alpacas out of the way?.





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- Andy Warhol

Bricktop

I think it's you that needs the educating; specifically learning to read.



My comments were directly linked to your claim that trees were the lungs of the world and they are not. No trees does NOT equate to no oxygen.



I fully concur that trees are vital to a healthy planet, and I share your horror at the vast swaths of bushland destroyed in Australia in the 20th century.



There is no debate that without trees, many species would become extinct.



However, perhaps you've not been in formed that land clearing in Australia ceased about 50 years ago, unless under Government licence which is issued rarely.



Farmers need permission to clear land, and that is generally only provided to maintain safety in case of fire.

Zetsu

Quote from: "caskur"I have a beautiful front garden... but its very unkempt atm...



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Dun think I've ever seen a garden as nice as yours in my entire life, not exaggerating here... sometimes gardens that are too tidy and well trim seems kind of unnatural to me.
Permanently off his rocker

caskur

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Quote from: "caskur"I have a beautiful front garden... but its very unkempt atm...



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Dun think I've ever seen a garden as nice as yours in my entire life, not exaggerating here... sometimes gardens that are too tidy and well trim seems kind of unnatural to me.




Exactly... A saying I picked up in a House and Garden mag 35 years ago, "LET YOUR GARDEN GO" of course meaning, don't over garden it...



Thank you for the compliment.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

caskur

Quote from: "Bricktop"I think it's you that needs the educating; specifically learning to read.



My comments were directly linked to your claim that trees were the lungs of the world and they are not. No trees does NOT equate to no oxygen.



I fully concur that trees are vital to a healthy planet, and I share your horror at the vast swaths of bushland destroyed in Australia in the 20th century.



There is no debate that without trees, many species would become extinct.



However, perhaps you've not been in formed that land clearing in Australia ceased about 50 years ago, unless under Government licence which is issued rarely.



Farmers need permission to clear land, and that is generally only provided to maintain safety in case of fire.




I run a Save the Trees Please on Facebook,... I'm a tad more educated about Australia and our manmade enviroment problems than your average admin.





If I was PM, I'd make it a law that every Australian yard would have to contain at least 6 native plants.





I would instantaneously evict every tree lopper to the Sahara desert and say, "now walk the fuck out"... omg, Hitler would have nothing on me... I'd make Hitler look like a hall monitor in rush hour on Good Friday.



FARMS cause fire... the fires are started in their weed patches and spread to my beautiful bushlands frying our precious birds, insects, retails and mammals.



i want every arsonist hung at noon... Flogged Malaysian style first.







Australian native birds have adjusted to the Jacaranda trees nicely.



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- Andy Warhol

caskur

And lol @ you thinking because something was made law, it's kept.



No only are no laws obeyed in Oz, they're not policed either.... If laws were obeyed, we'd have no litter problems for starters.





The cops are only interested in fining traffic offenders. Easy pickings.



Why aren't these pricks jailed for stealing our trees and their equipment confiscated?



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-21/victorian-forests-appear-to-have-been-logged-illegally/10496424?fbclid=IwAR14wCEqAHG9WcsCd7sobqYJO-hVg49mZdYaJ_60oDT-yX4JiANXvvh6HVk">https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-21/ ... ANXvvh6HVk">https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-21/victorian-forests-appear-to-have-been-logged-illegally/10496424?fbclid=IwAR14wCEqAHG9WcsCd7sobqYJO-hVg49mZdYaJ_60oDT-yX4JiANXvvh6HVk





Australia's endangered forests are being 'stolen' and sold in hardware and office stores

7.30 By environment, science and technology reporter Michael Slezak and the Specialist Reporting Team's Penny Timms

Updated 21 Nov 2018, 11:54am

 



Thousands of hectares of state forest appear to have been logged or earmarked for logging illegally, an ABC investigation has found, amounting to what some say is the mass "theft" by a government-owned for-profit logging company.



Trees making up some of Victoria's most endangered ecosystems are being felled and turned into building products, paper or wood chips by VicForests, which are then sold in retailers such as Bunnings and Officeworks.



The apparently illegal logging is also threatening the habitats of some of the country's most vulnerable species, including the Leadbeater's possum, Victoria's animal emblem.

In its simplest terms, the trees appear to have been taken illegally by VicForests — since they are not inside the areas it has been granted permission to log.

"If VicForests is logging timber that hasn't been allocated to them, then they're taking and selling timber that doesn't belong to them," said Danya Jacobs, a lawyer at Environmental Justice Australia.

"And another way of putting that is, it's tantamount to stealing timber from public forests."

The Victorian Government determines where VicForests can log in state forests by creating what is known as an "allocation order".

That order includes a map, and the ownership of the timber inside the borders of that map is transferred to VicForests.

According to the Sustainable Forests (Timber) Act 2004, only trees within that allocation can be harvested for sale — and all other timber in state forests remains the property of the Crown.

But VicForests appears to be taking trees from outside its allocation at hundreds of locations across the state.

"It's theft. Essentially these forests belong to all Victorians and by logging them, VicForests is stealing from all Victorians," said Ed Hill, an environmental activist employed by Friends of the Earth.



He was one of the first to notice VicForests was regularly planning logging of timber it did not own.

Data obtained by the ABC's Specialist Reporting Team, and independently analysed, shows it is a practice that has been repeated multiple times, is ongoing, and is planned to continue.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

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What kind of bird is that caskur?

Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"I'm happy to clean up MY mess. Not the jacaranda crap from across the road!!!




Look, this is the biggest problem we have... if everyone thought like like you then no trees would be left... in fact since the world has cleared 85% of the earth's lungs, our trees, our children's future, we have gone past complete ruin.





Do you think birds give a flying crap there are leaves on your drive-way? What are you, an OCD sufferer? You are an OCD sufferer...you must have had military training.





Sorry but I think characters like you should live in apartments and leave the yards to us greenies.





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https://carinsuranceguru.org/how-should-one-calculate-total-insurance-loss-for-his-car-insurance">total loss formula calculator

Bingo. The most effective way to reduce C02 emissions is with more forests. Canada is a carbon sink because of all of our forests, but Trudeau is making us the international climate change sacrificial lamb.

caskur

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What kind of bird is that caskur?


Red Wattleneck Bird



Red Wattle Bird.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

caskur

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"I'm happy to clean up MY mess. Not the jacaranda crap from across the road!!!




Look, this is the biggest problem we have... if everyone thought like like you then no trees would be left... in fact since the world has cleared 85% of the earth's lungs, our trees, our children's future, we have gone past complete ruin.





Do you think birds give a flying crap there are leaves on your drive-way? What are you, an OCD sufferer? You are an OCD sufferer...you must have had military training.





Sorry but I think characters like you should live in apartments and leave the yards to us greenies.





https://ibb.co/MC6cXYW">

https://carinsuranceguru.org/how-should-one-calculate-total-insurance-loss-for-his-car-insurance">total loss formula calculator

Bingo. The most effective way to reduce C02 emissions is with more forests. Canada is a carbon sink because of all of our forests, but Trudeau is making us the international climate change sacrificial lamb.




You should see what the stupid Indonesians are doing...





Brazil, Australia and Indonesia should be ashamed of themselves... It's Criminal Environmental Vandalism.





Check out Indonesia's part...horrendous



https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforestation-google-earth/">https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforesta ... gle-earth/">https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforestation-google-earth/



Amazon.

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Australia's part leaves me speechless... They've destroyed a continent in less that 200 years.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

caskur

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "Bricktop"I'm happy to clean up MY mess. Not the jacaranda crap from across the road!!!




Look, this is the biggest problem we have... if everyone thought like like you then no trees would be left... in fact since the world has cleared 85% of the earth's lungs, our trees, our children's future, we have gone past complete ruin.





Do you think birds give a flying crap there are leaves on your drive-way? What are you, an OCD sufferer? You are an OCD sufferer...you must have had military training.





Sorry but I think characters like you should live in apartments and leave the yards to us greenies.





https://ibb.co/MC6cXYW">

https://carinsuranceguru.org/how-should-one-calculate-total-insurance-loss-for-his-car-insurance">total loss formula calculator

Bingo. The most effective way to reduce C02 emissions is with more forests. Canada is a carbon sink because of all of our forests, but Trudeau is making us the international climate change sacrificial lamb.




New post, top of page... a video I can't repost here...



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"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "caskur"




You should see what the stupid Indonesians are doing...





Brazil, Australia and Indonesia should be ashamed of themselves... It's Criminal Environmental Vandalism.





Check out Indonesia's part...horrendous



https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforestation-google-earth/">https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforesta ... gle-earth/">https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforestation-google-earth/



Amazon.

https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforestation-google-earth/">https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforesta ... gle-earth/">https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforestation-google-earth/





Australia's part leaves me speechless... They've destroyed a continent in less that 200 years.

I have read a little about this, some of it here..



I understand the desire of developing countries to want to use the land to improve their living standards..



it's too bad they can't develop and maintain the earth's critically important rain forests.

caskur

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "caskur"




You should see what the stupid Indonesians are doing...





Brazil, Australia and Indonesia should be ashamed of themselves... It's Criminal Environmental Vandalism.





Check out Indonesia's part...horrendous



https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforestation-google-earth/">https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforesta ... gle-earth/">https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforestation-google-earth/



Amazon.

https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforestation-google-earth/">https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforesta ... gle-earth/">https://amazonaid.org/mapping-deforestation-google-earth/





Australia's part leaves me speechless... They've destroyed a continent in less that 200 years.

I have read a little about this, some of it here..



I understand the desire of developing countries to want to use the land to improve their living standards..



it's too bad they can't develop and maintain the earth's critically important rain forests.




They are morons... and Indonesia is hardly a "developing country" that's a furphy.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

caskur

Jakarta VVV looks like it is way past developing, wouldn't you say?



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"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol