Gillette's New "Toxic Masculinity" ad-is "toxic masculinity" a real problem or is this just toxic political correctness?

[Bricktop]

I consider myself masculine...and that advertisement is insulting to all men.



No more Gillette for me.

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2 faced hypocrite SJW fkrs



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[Bricktop]

I wrote to Gillette and told them to shove their razors.



Schick from now on.

[Frood]

I wax only and would never boycott bees.

[Wazzzup]

I forgot what mansplaining was. It's one of those terms made up by prog academics to shame white males. Kind of like white fragility.

The main definition I found was--



Mansplaining is supposedly when a man explains something to a woman that she already knows, often in a condescending tone.



The commercial did a variation that feminists claim happens--a woman at a business meeting says something then a man interprets it.



of course this is like most of the list--attributing a negative behavior that exists in all as the exclusive property of men.  There are certainly overbearing, bossy, know-it-all women out there just as there are men.

[Wazzzup]

An analysis of the examples in the commercial



1. Bullying



I don't believe boys and men have a monopoly on bullying at all.  They MAY do it more than girls and women, although I am not sure about that.



2. Sexual harassment



Men certainly do this way more than women.  Judging from the metoo explosion its especially common among progressive hollywood men.  Toxic progressivism perhaps????



3."Mansplaining"



Already covered above.  MAYBE men do it more, but again not sure. Arrogance and know-it-allism can exist in both sexes.  



4. Fighting



Girls fight less often, but they certainly fight.



5. Catcalling (?)



Certainly men do this more.  But if someone does this just ignore it and consider it sort of a compliment.  What's the big deal?

[Anonymous]

An analysis of the examples in the commercial



1. Bullying



I don't believe boys and men have a monopoly on bullying at all.  They MAY do it more than girls and women, although I am not sure about that.



2. Sexual harassment



Men certainly do this way more than women.  Judging from the metoo explosion its especially common among progressive hollywood men.  Toxic progressivism perhaps????



3."Mansplaining"



Already covered above.  MAYBE men do it more, but again not sure. Arrogance and know-it-allism can exist in both sexes.  



4. Fighting



Girls fight less often, but they certainly fight.



5. Catcalling (?)



Certainly men do this more.  But if someone does this just ignore it and consider it sort of a compliment.  What's the big deal?

I remember reading that young girls are as likely as young boys to bully others, especially online.

[JOE]

Gillette's New "Toxic Masculinity" ad-

[Odinson]

An analysis of the examples in the commercial



1. Bullying



I don't believe boys and men have a monopoly on bullying at all.  They MAY do it more than girls and women, although I am not sure about that.



2. Sexual harassment



Men certainly do this way more than women.  Judging from the metoo explosion its especially common among progressive hollywood men.  Toxic progressivism perhaps????



3."Mansplaining"



Already covered above.  MAYBE men do it more, but again not sure. Arrogance and know-it-allism can exist in both sexes.  



4. Fighting



Girls fight less often, but they certainly fight.



5. Catcalling (?)



Certainly men do this more.  But if someone does this just ignore it and consider it sort of a compliment.  What's the big deal?

I remember reading that young girls are as likely as young boys to bully others, especially online.

When guys bully each other, its obvious.. They use physical violence..



Everybody can see it..







When girls bully each other, its less obvious.. Girls usually soil each others reputations.. Spread nasty rumours etc.



A pack of teenage girls is like a pit full of vipers.. They pretend to like each other but then they stab each other in the back.

[Wazzzup]

I think there definitely is a problem with toxic masculinity.



However it is not just an American problem. I suppose an extreme example in the eorld are young men who join ISIS & emulate an extremely toxic form of masculinity. Somehow I don't think your average American male is quite there yet. Still it is a problem



It's everywhere on the planet and is affecting other cultures too.



The ad addresses the problem but not its causes.



Its not enough to say "I will be a nice guy" without cutting out the toxic influences.



For starters perhaps today's young men are exposed to too much violence on tv & the internet. They're encouraged to take performance enhancers like steroids and red bup. To be mma macho men. To bully cheat & lie. So they can change the face but if the underlying causes aren't addressed then the problem will still persist.

Hmm.  Legit post? or Joe's toxic trolling???

[JOE]

I think there definitely is a problem with toxic masculinity.



However it is not just an American problem. I suppose an extreme example in the eorld are young men who join ISIS & emulate an extremely toxic form of masculinity. Somehow I don't think your average American male is quite there yet. Still it is a problem



It's everywhere on the planet and is affecting other cultures too.



The ad addresses the problem but not its causes.



Its not enough to say "I will be a nice guy" without cutting out the toxic influences.



For starters perhaps today's young men are exposed to too much violence on tv & the internet. They're encouraged to take performance enhancers like steroids and red bup. To be mma macho men. To bully cheat & lie. So they can change the face but if the underlying causes aren't addressed then the problem will still persist.

Hmm.  Legit post? or Joe's toxic trolling???

Well Lump, I notice the difference over the past 20 or 30 years in Canada.



While theres always been problem males, they seem so much more belligerent and aggressive mow.



I used to rent a room out in my building but I don't do that anymore because I've had too many problems. Today's young men lie cheat bully and steal. They're all so goddam dishonest too.



I had roommates who got into fights with neighbors and the management in my building.



Heck as a straight heterosexual nonsense guy I cant handle them so little wonder that they get this label of being 'toxic'



Btw I don't consider myself as politically correct

[JOE]

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[Wazzzup]

I think there definitely is a problem with toxic masculinity.



However it is not just an American problem. I suppose an extreme example in the eorld are young men who join ISIS & emulate an extremely toxic form of masculinity. Somehow I don't think your average American male is quite there yet. Still it is a problem



It's everywhere on the planet and is affecting other cultures too.



The ad addresses the problem but not its causes.



Its not enough to say "I will be a nice guy" without cutting out the toxic influences.



For starters perhaps today's young men are exposed to too much violence on tv & the internet. They're encouraged to take performance enhancers like steroids and red bup. To be mma macho men. To bully cheat & lie. So they can change the face but if the underlying causes aren't addressed then the problem will still persist.

Hmm.  Legit post? or Joe's toxic trolling???

Well Lump, I notice the difference over the past 20 or 30 years in Canada.



While theres always been problem males, they seem so much more belligerent and aggressive mow.



I used to rent a room out in my building but I don't do that anymore because I've had too many problems. Today's young men lie cheat bully and steal. They're all so goddam dishonest too.



I had roommates who got into fights with neighbors and the management in my building.



Heck as a straight heterosexual nonsense guy I cant handle them so little wonder that they get this label of being 'toxic'



Btw I don't consider myself as politically correct

Wow, I had no idea you were such a feminist until now Joe.



BTW statistical evidence contradicts your conclusions about Canada.  If males in Canada were getting more violent than 20 to 30 years ago you would expect to see violent crimes like murder and attempted murder to be rising, but they are not.  They are actually decreasing in fact.



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How do you explain that?

[JOE]

I think there definitely is a problem with toxic masculinity.



However it is not just an American problem. I suppose an extreme example in the eorld are young men who join ISIS & emulate an extremely toxic form of masculinity. Somehow I don't think your average American male is quite there yet. Still it is a problem



It's everywhere on the planet and is affecting other cultures too.



The ad addresses the problem but not its causes.



Its not enough to say "I will be a nice guy" without cutting out the toxic influences.



For starters perhaps today's young men are exposed to too much violence on tv & the internet. They're encouraged to take performance enhancers like steroids and red bup. To be mma macho men. To bully cheat & lie. So they can change the face but if the underlying causes aren't addressed then the problem will still persist.

Hmm.  Legit post? or Joe's toxic trolling???

Well Lump, I notice the difference over the past 20 or 30 years in Canada.



While theres always been problem males, they seem so much more belligerent and aggressive mow.



I used to rent a room out in my building but I don't do that anymore because I've had too many problems. Today's young men lie cheat bully and steal. They're all so goddam dishonest too.



I had roommates who got into fights with neighbors and the management in my building.



Heck as a straight heterosexual nonsense guy I cant handle them so little wonder that they get this label of being 'toxic'



Btw I don't consider myself as politically correct

Wow, I had no idea you were such a feminist until now Joe.



BTW statistical evidence contradicts your conclusions about Canada.  If males in Canada were getting worse you would expect to see violent crimes like murder and attempted murder to be rising, but they are not.  They are actually decreasing in fact.



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How do you explain that?

Well thats news in the Internet or articles you read.



But in the real world today's alpha male wants instant gratification el pronto.



They're inconsiderate theyre not taught to wait & many don't have any manners.



They think because something appears instantaneously with the click if a button that you should comply with their requests instantaneously.



Btw if you think i'm just picking on men, i've also noticed that many of today's females are a lot meaner than they used to be. A female friend of mine with 2 young daughters says she notices that.



I think its just a meaner more demanding world we live in now.



And its reflected in the habits and behavior of the younger up and coming generation

[cc]

Wow, I had no idea you were such a feminist until now Joe.

Irony-blind, seems of late most heavy duty misogynists are and / or work along with "feminists".