the police thread

[caskur]

Vitriol is an ex cop as well... Southern Stater too.



They tried to recruit my stupid husband but he rocked up at Perth headquarters at the age of 33... and was dismissed, (the cut off was 32 years old), then Mr Plod at headquarters said, he could be a Fed, (their cut off age limit was 34) but he would have to fly all over the continent a lot and carry a gun... Kurt's religious convictions made him think twice about carrying a gun.

[Frood]

The OP does not say "politics", or "policing".



It says "police". Rather specific to those of us who understand grammar and linguistics.

 :001_rolleyes:

Post whatever you can think of about law enforcement....good, bad or indifferent.

It also says law enforcement, dumb dumb.



You don't get to decide who and what gets discussed in an umbrella thread which clearly deals with all aspects of police, policing, law enforcement, the taxpayer (ultimate boss of all cops) or why cops have small willies and talk out of their arses.



/slap

[Anonymous]

=== or why cops have small willies and talk out of their arses.



/slap

While I agree with your post in nearly all respects, I'd rather you said "why SOME cops have small willies and talk out of their asses."  



Perhaps even "MANY," but that would be debatable.





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Even Sarah Silverman avoids the blanket condemnation.

[Odinson]

I block parked my car last summer.



There was a legitimate parking spot but it was right in front of a apartment building garage door.





The apartment building is new and the tiling on the street indicates that there is a parking spot there..





I wasnt observing the surroundings.. I was just seeing the empty spot.

Did you mean  to post this in the police thread?

Not at first but then I started thinking this might belong there.  

[Anonymous]

It was only a week ago that a similar thread by Freud was rightly binned as one of his trolls.



Then, you think it a good idea to open another thread inviting him right in to continue his idiocy.



If it's such a good idea, why not discuss another occupations? I even went to the trouble of starting the conversations going for you.



Let's be clear. Only one member here has the credibility to comment with any authority on the subject. No-one else. So, I'm perplexed as to why you think anyone can discuss the issue with any authority.



The only reason I can see for the OP is to provide Freud with another opportunity to troll, shortly after his last effort was RR'd.



Unless, of course, you feel the members here are interested in the various occupations of others, in which case, kindly restore my threads to the main forum, so everyone can be included.

Law enforcement should be open to discussion, unless the thread is a deliberate troll..



I didn't start this thread to troll anybody..



It's true, you are the only person here that can talk about the subject from experience just like IHJ is the only person here  who talk about train safety from personal experience and I'll defer to both of you..



But, those of us who are not employed as police officers or train engineers have an interest in both topics..



Frankly, I'd love to read some of your colourful stories from your police career.

[Anonymous]

Most drivers caught, talking, texting, dialing or emailing on a handheld device will be fined up to $1,000 — more than double the current fine.



Additional penalties include a three-day licence suspension and three demerit points. And that's just the beginning.



"It's really going to cost you, but there's a reason for that," said Const. Sean Ralph of the Ottawa police.



"It's a major infraction right up there with impaired driving."  



For a second conviction within five years, the maximum fine rises to $2,000, plus six demerit points and a seven-day driver's licence suspension.



More convictions within that five-year period would be an even bigger hit to the wallet at a fine up to $3,000, six demerit points and a 30-day suspension.



On top of that, convicted motorists can expect their insurance rates to go up.

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I know Ontario's tough new distracted driving laws are not law enforcement, but this laws will be enforced.

[Odinson]

Even with the bluetooth speaker thing in the cars, you still dont concentrate on the road..



You concentrate on the phone call..







Humans are really bad at doing 2 things at once.

[Anonymous]

Even with the bluetooth speaker thing in the cars, you still dont concentrate on the road..



You concentrate on the phone call..







Humans are really bad at doing 2 things at once.

But, at least it doesn't take your hands off of the steering wheel.

[Bricktop]

But, those of us who are not employed as police officers or train engineers have an interest in both topics..



Frankly, I'd love to read some of your colourful stories from your police career.

Then why were my threads on those issues dumped in RR??



Which colourful stories would you like? The carnage of fatal accidents? 14 year old hookers? Juvenile car thieves? Street riots? Pub brawls? Domestic violence? Rapes?



Let me know your preference. There are so many.

[Anonymous]

But, those of us who are not employed as police officers or train engineers have an interest in both topics..



Frankly, I'd love to read some of your colourful stories from your police career.

Then why were my threads on those issues dumped in RR??



Which colourful stories would you like? The carnage of fatal accidents? 14 year old hookers? Juvenile car thieves? Street riots? Pub brawls? Domestic violence? Rapes?



Let me know your preference. There are so many.

I was thinking more of where you think you made a difference.

[Bricktop]

I made no difference. No police officer has, or can. It needs to be emphasised that the police do not administer the sanctions on a convicted criminal.



Police officers observe, arrest or report, and the matter is referred to a court to be resolved. Courts, invariably ruled by former lawyers who themselves are typically leftists, are often hostile to the police and regard the criminal as the victim (a central tenet of socialist judicial theory).



The judicial system is incapable of making a difference. It merely recycles offenders.



And remember, for every ONE that appears before a court, another 9 are never identified (clear up rates in western nations are around 1 in 10 reported crimes).

[Anonymous]

I made no difference. No police officer has, or can. It needs to be emphasised that the police do not administer the sanctions on a convicted criminal.



Police officers observe, arrest or report, and the matter is referred to a court to be resolved. Courts, invariably ruled by former lawyers who themselves are typically leftists, are often hostile to the police and regard the criminal as the victim (a central tenet of socialist judicial theory).



The judicial system is incapable of making a difference. It merely recycles offenders.



And remember, for every ONE that appears before a court, another 9 are never identified (clear up rates in western nations are around 1 in 10 reported crimes).

I appreciate your reply to Fash.



It's come to my attention that here in the states, the police DO (all too often) end up carrying out extra-judicial executions.  This troubles me a great deal.  I consider that a "sanction" of an extreme sort.



On second thought, not always specifically the cops.  Sometimes it's jail staff or paddy wagon drivers.

[Bricktop]

That is a quite different issue.



As you well know, police officers have no authority to administer sanctions. There is a reasonable argument that handing out instant traffic fines is counter to that premise, but that is tempered by the fact that the officer cannot modify the mandated fine, and the driver can have the matter referred to a court if they dispute the offence. (It is utterly inappropriate that challenging a traffic fine in a court incurs more expense than had the driver paid the original expiation fee).



Police officers that overstep their bounds by administering "punishment" outside the law deserve to be charged and dismissed.



I say that full in the knowledge that on occasions, there are mitigating circumstances to over zealous policing, but that is not an excuse for a criminal act.



It happens everywhere, because police are human beings too, and suffer the same frailities as everyone else. Moreso, in some cases.



I don't know about the US, but in Oz, the number of complaints of assault by police have reduced substantially. This is in large part the "feminisation" of the police force in general, and better training and equipment.



Things have changed. When I was a young police officer, a certain level of "fire with fire" was deemed acceptable...even preferable.



Of course, those were the days when teachers were allowed to assault students as well.

[Anonymous]

I made no difference. No police officer has, or can. It needs to be emphasised that the police do not administer the sanctions on a convicted criminal.



Police officers observe, arrest or report, and the matter is referred to a court to be resolved. Courts, invariably ruled by former lawyers who themselves are typically leftists, are often hostile to the police and regard the criminal as the victim (a central tenet of socialist judicial theory).



The judicial system is incapable of making a difference. It merely recycles offenders.



And remember, for every ONE that appears before a court, another 9 are never identified (clear up rates in western nations are around 1 in 10 reported crimes).

But, at least you got some criminals off of the streets at least temporarily..



You did your part.

[Bricktop]

I did something to contribute to a safer and more peaceful society, simply by being there. Individual actions do very little to reduce crime. That is a matter for the Courts and Government. Police officers are merely their agents.



One of the reason I decided to change careers is because I realised that despite the best efforts of good police officers, Governments take crime control as seriously as they take protestors. Which is to say, not at all.



For example, when a government says speed cameras are safety devices, they are talking garbage. They raise revenue, and governments hope to raise enough to pay for the police force, making it revenue neutral.



Any other justification is a lie.



Safer roads save lives. Better driver training saves lives. Removing criminal drivers from driving saves lives. But these are COSTS.