Our planet is not fragile

[Anonymous]

Geophysicists estimate that just three volcanic eruptions — Indonesia (1883), Alaska (1912) and Iceland (1947) — spewed more carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere than all of mankind's activities during our entire history.

I will remember that one. Great info.



I just was reading the other day that there was strong evidence  that Greenland was warmer in around 1,000 AD than it is now.  The researchers were trying to explain it, they said it might be the earths axis wobbling, or it might be solar activity or something else.



And that's when I thought what would they say is causing our current supposed warming trend?  They would say its man made probably.  But how do we know  the current supposed warming is not the earths axis wobbling, or solar activity or something else?



To me that illustrates the point-- the earth has been both cooler and warmer than now many times and it had nothing to do with man.  So IF the climate is changing now, how do we know man is at fault?

The earth has had it's ups and downs for sure..



I have no reason not to believe we are not contributing to climate change..



But, the question is, even if we make huge sacrifices, will it mean we can reverse climate change, and nobody can say with absolute certainty it will.

[Odinson]

When you think about it, we like the thought of an impending doom..



There is always something that is gonna wipe us out... Just waiting around the corner.

I suppose I am one of those in a way.  I don't think that we are going to destroy the earth, but I do think the left are going to destroy western civilization and put a totalitarian soviet type system in its place.  I wish I didn't think that though.



I agree with Dennis Prager's quote "I am far more in fear of global leftism than global warming"

There has always been these traitors..



They are different depending on times..





A bunch of Quislings.





But they will get what is coming to them.. Just like Vidkun Quisling did..

[Bricktop]

To validate their existence, the Left needs a "cause"...a pre-requisite the Right is exempted from.



Without a cause (worker's rights, women's rights, racism, the environment), the validity of leftist political policy making collapses.



So, in their sphere of ideology, if you haven't got a cause make one up. Quickly.



Socialism is built on deception and lies, and despite the fact that the Right usually meets those lies head on, and dispenses them with fact, logic and reason, they still take hold, because the Left's capacity for subversion is exemplary.

That would mean they have no interest in fixing problems..



If you fix something, you lose a cause right?

Give the lady a CIGAR. That is exactly how the Left operates. Modern feminism is a case in point.

[Anonymous]

Geophysicists estimate that just three volcanic eruptions — Indonesia (1883), Alaska (1912) and Iceland (1947) — spewed more carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere than all of mankind's activities during our entire history.

I will remember that one. Great info.



I just was reading the other day that there was strong evidence  that Greenland was warmer in around 1,000 AD than it is now.  The researchers were trying to explain it, they said it might be the earths axis wobbling, or it might be solar activity or something else.



And that's when I thought what would they say is causing our current supposed warming trend?  They would say its man made probably.  But how do we know  the current supposed warming is not the earths axis wobbling, or solar activity or something else?



To me that illustrates the point-- the earth has been both cooler and warmer than now many times and it had nothing to do with man.  So IF the climate is changing now, how do we know man is at fault?

You are referring to the medieval warm period  from roughly 950-1250 AD. There is evidence of subsistence farming in Southern Greenland which is impossible today.

[Anonymous]

Geophysicists estimate that just three volcanic eruptions — Indonesia (1883), Alaska (1912) and Iceland (1947) — spewed more carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere than all of mankind's activities during our entire history.

I will remember that one. Great info.

Not a stat alarmists would want to get out even if they know it.

[Bricktop]

Another is that for 95% of the time the earth has existed, there was NO ice anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Another is that for 95% of the time the earth has existed, there was NO ice anywhere.

I heard that. We are actually cooler now that we have been for most of the earth's existence.

[JOE]

Another is that for 95% of the time the earth has existed, there was NO ice anywhere.

I don't think climate change is as much of an issue ad depletion of our resources and The despoliation of the planet. Our earth isnt a toilet that we can mistreat like we have in the past.



The planet is reaching a breaking point at what we can throw at it or abuse.



Even if manmade activity isn't the cause of global warming, the problem is still there and aling with it conservation of our resources and how to make the best use & to recycle what we have left.



And within the scheme of things, we don't have that much left at our present rates of consumption. Even if we're told that we have hundreds of years left if expendable resources, what about after that? This is why measures to conserve & limit greenhouse gasses make sense.

[Gaon]

This is the main takeaway from seoulbro's article.

Occasionally, environmentalists spill the beans and reveal their true agenda. Barry Commoner said, "Capitalism is the earth's number one enemy." Amherst College professor Leo Marx said, "On ecological grounds, the case for world government is beyond argument."

I don't think there can be any serious denial that climate change pushers have an agenda that is not environmental.

[Bricktop]

Another is that for 95% of the time the earth has existed, there was NO ice anywhere.

I don't think climate change is as much of an issue ad depletion of our resources and The despoliation of the planet. Our earth isnt a toilet that we can mistreat like we have in the past.



The planet is reaching a breaking point at what we can throw at it or abuse.



Even if manmade activity isn't the cause of global warming, the problem is still there and aling with it conservation of our resources and how to make the best use & to recycle what we have left.



And within the scheme of things, we don't have that much left at our present rates of consumption. Even if we're told that we have hundreds of years left if expendable resources, what about after that? This is why measures to conserve & limit greenhouse gasses make sense.

Joe, you should have stopped typing after the first three words.



You don't think.



If you DID think, you would realise that the myth of climate being changed by human activity is yet another tool of the left to increase government control, increase taxes to subsidise dead end technologies and distribute wealth from rich countries to poor.



Why did you think ALL third world nations support the need for action against climate change. Said action gives them MONEY, Joe.

[Gaon]

China is banking on climate change changing everything. Batteries are made up of four components: anode, cathode, separator, and electrolyte. China currently controls between 50% and 77% of the global market for the raw materials of these components, according to Yano Research Institute. Electric and hybrid vehicle sales are surging in China.

[Anonymous]

China is banking on climate change changing everything. Batteries are made up of four components: anode, cathode, separator, and electrolyte. China currently controls between 50% and 77% of the global market for the raw materials of these components, according to Yano Research Institute. Electric and hybrid vehicle sales are surging in China.

They want to be the world's leading car exporter and they think the future is electric.

[Wazzzup]

Geophysicists estimate that just three volcanic eruptions — Indonesia (1883), Alaska (1912) and Iceland (1947) — spewed more carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere than all of mankind's activities during our entire history.

I will remember that one. Great info.



I just was reading the other day that there was strong evidence  that Greenland was warmer in around 1,000 AD than it is now.  The researchers were trying to explain it, they said it might be the earths axis wobbling, or it might be solar activity or something else.



And that's when I thought what would they say is causing our current supposed warming trend?  They would say its man made probably.  But how do we know  the current supposed warming is not the earths axis wobbling, or solar activity or something else?



To me that illustrates the point-- the earth has been both cooler and warmer than now many times and it had nothing to do with man.  So IF the climate is changing now, how do we know man is at fault?

The earth has had it's ups and downs for sure..



I have no reason not to believe we are not contributing to climate change..



But, the question is, even if we make huge sacrifices, will it mean we can reverse climate change, and nobody can say with absolute certainty it will.

if there is global warming and if its mostly man made I don't think the current approaches like reducing CO2 levels by 2% or 3%, or carbon taxes. are going to do anything.   I think for a serious difference to be made it would probably take major sacrifices like getting rid of all or nearly all fossil fuels, and there is no way people are going to do that without a realistic alternative, and wind and solar are not going to cut it.



Speaking of--Trump had a funny line in his CPAC speech "Darling, is the wind blowing today? I'd like to watch television."



Fash just wondering, are most of the carbon taxes in Canada spent on environmental related stuff or are they usually spent on other things?

[Frood]

All taxes are spent on other things. It's how governments roll. Deficits too big to get re-elected? Create new problems, siphon off from the new into the old, and kick the can down the road (hopefully after regime change happens).



Blame, wash, rinse, repeat.

[Frood]

China is banking on climate change changing everything. Batteries are made up of four components: anode, cathode, separator, and electrolyte. China currently controls between 50% and 77% of the global market for the raw materials of these components, according to Yano Research Institute. Electric and hybrid vehicle sales are surging in China.

They want to be the world's leading car exporter and they think the future is electric.

The future of people management (aka livestock) is electric with narrow charging options. That's what they truly want. To limit travel and options.