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Gaon

Quote from: "Wazzzup"I can't remember what thread this was in , but maybe you all remember this guy who kicked the pro life woman in the head



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he got 8 months probation and a 5,000 dollar fine for it.
If I saw him do that, I would definitely get physical. I am certain I could handle him.
The Russian Rock It

Anonymous

I aint getting into an abortion debate, but Planned Parenthood is another scam NGO sucking hundreds of millions of dollars a year in taxpayer money that it does not need r deserve.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/crisis-pregnancy-center-planned-parenthood/?utm_medium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/cris ... dium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/crisis-pregnancy-center-planned-parenthood/?utm_medium=email

Former Planned Parenthood President Said Crisis Pregnancy Centers Misinform, Shame And Deter. Here's What They Actually Do



Former Planned Parenthood President Leana Wen said crisis pregnancy centers pose as health centers.

The Daily Caller News Foundation visited the Capitol Hill Crisis Pregnancy Center and found this was not the case.

This Washington, D.C.-based pregnancy center offers care, material support and resources to every client in need.

WASHINGTON — Former Planned Parenthood President Leana Wen said Sunday that crisis pregnancy centers misinform, shame and deter women from getting abortions, but employees at the Capitol Hill Crisis Pregnancy Center disagree.



Wen tweeted that crisis pregnancy centers "falsely depict themselves as health centers when their only purpose is to misinform, shame, and deter anyone seeking safe, legal abortion care."

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"I aint getting into an abortion debate, but Planned Parenthood is another scam NGO sucking hundreds of millions of dollars a year in taxpayer money that it does not need r deserve.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/crisis-pregnancy-center-planned-parenthood/?utm_medium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/cris ... dium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/crisis-pregnancy-center-planned-parenthood/?utm_medium=email

Former Planned Parenthood President Said Crisis Pregnancy Centers Misinform, Shame And Deter. Here's What They Actually Do



Former Planned Parenthood President Leana Wen said crisis pregnancy centers pose as health centers.

The Daily Caller News Foundation visited the Capitol Hill Crisis Pregnancy Center and found this was not the case.

This Washington, D.C.-based pregnancy center offers care, material support and resources to every client in need.

WASHINGTON — Former Planned Parenthood President Leana Wen said Sunday that crisis pregnancy centers misinform, shame and deter women from getting abortions, but employees at the Capitol Hill Crisis Pregnancy Center disagree.



Wen tweeted that crisis pregnancy centers "falsely depict themselves as health centers when their only purpose is to misinform, shame, and deter anyone seeking safe, legal abortion care."

PP is a political organization not a health provider.

cc

#318
Exactly - and when the new leader tried to make it better, she was fired within 8 months



https://www.foxnews.com/health/ousted-planned-parenthood-head-says-she-tried-to-depoliticize-group">Ousted Planned Parenthood head says she tried to 'depoliticize' group



The former Planned Parenthood president, ousted from her position after eight months on the job, says the move came as she was trying to "depoliticize" the organization.



"In the end, I was asked to leave for the same reason I was hired: I was changing the direction of Planned Parenthood," Dr. Leana Wen said in an op-ed in The New York Times on Friday.



Wen said she faced pressure from a new Board of Directors to prioritize doubling down on abortion rights advocacy rather than emphasizing the organization's "role in providing essential health care to millions of underserved women and families."



... she preferred trying to steer the organization toward promoting broad access to women's health care -- that includes breast exams, cervical cancer screenings, H.I.V. testing and family planning -- through the organization, which has a presence in every state.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Herman"I aint getting into an abortion debate, but Planned Parenthood is another scam NGO sucking hundreds of millions of dollars a year in taxpayer money that it does not need r deserve.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/crisis-pregnancy-center-planned-parenthood/?utm_medium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/cris ... dium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/crisis-pregnancy-center-planned-parenthood/?utm_medium=email

Former Planned Parenthood President Said Crisis Pregnancy Centers Misinform, Shame And Deter. Here's What They Actually Do



Former Planned Parenthood President Leana Wen said crisis pregnancy centers pose as health centers.

The Daily Caller News Foundation visited the Capitol Hill Crisis Pregnancy Center and found this was not the case.

This Washington, D.C.-based pregnancy center offers care, material support and resources to every client in need.

WASHINGTON — Former Planned Parenthood President Leana Wen said Sunday that crisis pregnancy centers misinform, shame and deter women from getting abortions, but employees at the Capitol Hill Crisis Pregnancy Center disagree.



Wen tweeted that crisis pregnancy centers "falsely depict themselves as health centers when their only purpose is to misinform, shame, and deter anyone seeking safe, legal abortion care."

PP is a political organization not a health provider.

Ya, it is. I did not want to ignite a debate on abortion. But, I got no problem with corporations that receive hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars masquerading as a necessary health care provider.

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"Exactly - and when the new leader tried to make it better, she was fired within 8 months



https://www.foxnews.com/health/ousted-planned-parenthood-head-says-she-tried-to-depoliticize-group">Ousted Planned Parenthood head says she tried to 'depoliticize' group



he former Planned Parenthood president, ousted from her position after eight months on the job, says the move came as she was trying to "depoliticize" the organization.



"In the end, I was asked to leave for the same reason I was hired: I was changing the direction of Planned Parenthood," Dr. Leana Wen said in an op-ed in The New York Times on Friday.



Wen said she faced pressure from a new Board of Directors to prioritize doubling down on abortion rights advocacy rather than emphasizing the organization's "role in providing essential health care to millions of underserved women and families."

We have the smoking gun. Good work ceec. ac_drinks

Skippy

America and Canada abortion policy is like Nazi Germany, abort if they are disabled, mentally ill, victims of rape, incest, or just an inconvienice. Don't they deserve to live just like anyone else  acc_angry

Anonymous

Quote from: "Skippy"America and Canada abortion policy is like Nazi Germany, abort if they are disabled, mentally ill, victims of rape, incest, or just an inconvenience. Don't they deserve to live just like anyone else acc_angry

They absolutely do deserve to live Skippy.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Skippy"America and Canada abortion policy is like Nazi Germany, abort if they are disabled, mentally ill, victims of rape, incest, or just an inconvienice. Don't they deserve to live just like anyone else  acc_angry

I don't have a problem with some aspects of eugenics. Some people should be sterilized.

Skippy

Or the Caucasians should be encouraged to have more babies or that will be the end of us

Anonymous

Quote from: "Skippy"Or the Caucasians should be encouraged to have more babies or that will be the end of us

Some whites should be sterilized too. Progtards are usually white.  More East European immigration. They are anti progs. More Chinks too. They are anti progs as well.

@realAzhyaAryola

#326
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Herman"I aint getting into an abortion debate, but Planned Parenthood is another scam NGO sucking hundreds of millions of dollars a year in taxpayer money that it does not need r deserve.



https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/crisis-pregnancy-center-planned-parenthood/?utm_medium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/cris ... dium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/17/crisis-pregnancy-center-planned-parenthood/?utm_medium=email

Former Planned Parenthood President Said Crisis Pregnancy Centers Misinform, Shame And Deter. Here's What They Actually Do



Former Planned Parenthood President Leana Wen said crisis pregnancy centers pose as health centers.

The Daily Caller News Foundation visited the Capitol Hill Crisis Pregnancy Center and found this was not the case.

This Washington, D.C.-based pregnancy center offers care, material support and resources to every client in need.

WASHINGTON — Former Planned Parenthood President Leana Wen said Sunday that crisis pregnancy centers misinform, shame and deter women from getting abortions, but employees at the Capitol Hill Crisis Pregnancy Center disagree.



Wen tweeted that crisis pregnancy centers "falsely depict themselves as health centers when their only purpose is to misinform, shame, and deter anyone seeking safe, legal abortion care."


PP is a political organization not a health provider.


I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on this, Fash. PP is a health care provider especially to the underprivileged. Their focus is to educate people about reproductive and sexual health. They can help answer questions and guide a patient about contraception, STDs, breast and cervical health, including cervical cancer screenings. They don't only serve women. They provide services to men too. It is a place that offers guidance regarding family planning which is why it is called Planned Parenthood.



While most of us have health care insurance and primary physicians, most underprivileged members of society don't. So, PP does serve them as a health care provider for reproductive and sexual health only. One still needs a primary health care provider to address general health issues.



I advocate that all women who are pregnant must have PRE-NATAL care. The reason I joined this cause was by accident. My youngest was 2 months early so he was a preemie. I did not see it coming. This happened even though I was fit and healthy. I was on the treadmill even at 5 months. Still, I did not escape the claws of preeclampsia. It is a condition that could strike any expectant woman and could be fatal if not detected in good time. Both my baby and I nearly did not make it if my OB-GYN did not monitor me effectively. I think considering the time of pregnancy with a devil-may-care attitude is ill-informed. Although it brings joy and hope, a pregnancy is not a happy-go-lucky time. It is a time to be cautious. Every pregnant woman must have pre-natal care.



For more, go here: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/">https://www.plannedparenthood.org/
@realAzhyaAryola



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9 Things People Get Wrong About Planned Parenthood



thecut.com/2017/01/misconceptions-about-planned-parenthood.html



Do you know what Planned Parenthood actually does? If you believe Donald Trump and Mike Pence, it's an "abortion factory." If you listen to Carly Fiorina, it's a place where body parts are trafficked. While one in five women will visit a Planned Parenthood in her lifetime, terminating a pregnancy is hardly the only reason why. Nonetheless, the fact that abortion accounts for such a small part of the organization's services does little to distill egregious conservative fantasies about the right to choose.



The many misconceptions about Planned Parenthood empower the long assault against reproductive rights, and with the president-elect's promise to cut the 100-year-old health-care provider's federal funding, correcting those myths and bolstering supporters with valuable information is more important than ever. Not sure about what Planned Parenthood does and doesn't do (ahem: wholesale fetal tissue)? Here's a handy guide to nine things people get wrong about our nation's biggest women's-health-care provider.



FALSE: Abortion is the most popular service that Planned Parenthood provides. Though some pro-lifers paint Planned Parenthood as an organization that exists for the sole purpose of blithely doling out abortions to all who walk through their doors, abortion accounts for only 3 percent of the organization's health-care services (a statistic that conservatives claim distracts from the actual cost of abortion). The main reasons people visit a Planned Parenthood are contraceptive access (31 percent) and STI/STD testing and treatment (45 percent). More than double the number of people visited Planned Parenthood clinics in 2014 for pregnancy tests than for abortion procedures.



FALSE: Planned Parenthood only provides services to women. If Planned Parenthood were to be defunded, women won't be the only ones to lose out. While services vary depending on location, men can visit clinics for prostate, colon, and testicular cancer screenings, vasectomies, male infertility screenings, and sexual-health services, among other necessary health treatments. In 2014, Planned Parenthoods nationwide provided vasectomies to 3,445 men.



FALSE: Planned Parenthood is just for wealthy women, so they'll find health care elsewhere if it were to be shut down. Roughly 75 percent of Planned Parenthood's patients have income at or below 150 percent of the federal poverty level, which is one enormous reason why it is essential the organization's services not be curtailed. The federal funding that Planned Parenthood receives is largely through Medicaid reimbursements. Over half of PP facilities are in medically underserved communities, and unlike most health-care facilities, PP offers same-day appointments, longer hours, and weekend services, making access to preventive health care easier for people who work nontraditional or long hours. In total, Planned Parenthood provides 4,970,000 people worldwide with sexual and reproductive health care and education yearly.



FALSE: Defunding Planned Parenthood would be good for taxpayers. The argument goes that if Planned Parenthood were to be cut off from federal funding, America's taxpayers would benefit. But without the necessary and low-cost health care available at PP, Medicaid spending would actually go up for the federal government and taxpayers. In low-income areas, where women depend on Planned Parenthood for Medicaid-funded contraceptive services, unwanted pregnancies would rise, which would then put a much bigger — and more long-term — burden on Medicaid spending. ThinkProgress estimated that defunding PP would cause Medicaid spending to increase by $650 million over ten years.



FALSE: Teenagers are being indoctrinated by Planned Parenthood to have sex at a young age. One of Planned Parenthood's undersung resources is the wealth of information provided not only in clinics but online, too, at a time when sex education is critically lacking nationwide. Planned Parenthood websites receive approximately 60 million visits a year, and the organization offers both text and call options for teenagers (and adults) who are curious about sex, family planning, sexually transmitted diseases, and contraceptives. Representatives from PP assert that the clinics and information available exist as a means to educate and are not intended to encourage or push young people into anything they are not ready for. (Several studies have shown that providing young people with access to sex education is not correlated to an increase in sexual risk-taking.) Many clinics have teen advocates for other teenagers to speak to, and services offered to teens of all ages are confidential.



FALSE: Planned Parenthood is only available to cis-identifying patients. In an effort to expand its already wide reach, Planned Parenthood now offers hormone therapy for transgender patients, a typically prohibitive or difficult-to-access medical service. While many local clinics that offer hormone-replacement therapy require letters from a patient's therapist before a prescription is given, Planned Parenthood provides HRT with "informed consent." In 26 locations of the 650 Planned Parenthoods nationwide, transgender men and women can receive testosterone or estrogen treatments. Depending on the demand, the number of clinics to provide health-care options to transgender patients is only rising.



FALSE: Planned Parenthood could survive on private donors alone. Over 40 percent of Planned Parenthood's funding comes from federal, state, and local funds. That makes up about $553 million of Planned Parenthood's annual budget, while private donors (from its 2014–2015 report) account for only $353 million a year. Without federal funding, Planned Parenthood would have little chance of survival in communities where a large majority of patients rely on the government's Medicaid and Title X grants. Planned Parenthood's yearly expenses are upwards of $12 billion, and 82 percent of those expenses go to client services, education, and research. With half of the organization's funding cut, decisions would have to be made about which community clinics could stand the loss of services. (One current available action, the Washington Post reports, is for supporters of PP to seek medical care at Planned Parenthood to increase the number of privately insured patients at their clinics.)



FALSE: Planned Parenthood only provides services to Americans. The fight for Planned Parenthood to stay alive may be most potent in our backyards, but it has also extended its reach globally. In 2014, Planned Parenthood Global distributed sexual and reproductive health resources and information to 1,033,964 people worldwide by providing grants to local organizations in countries where access to these resources is severely limited.



FALSE: There will be thousands of other clinics available to women should Planned Parenthood be defunded. While Planned Parenthood is certainly the most recognizable and most familiar abortion provider to most American women, it surely cannot be the only place where women can get an abortion, should they choose to, right? Right? Not so. The argument goes that if PP lost federal funding, local community health centers could step up to fight the good fight and provide health-care services in its stead. But local community centers do not have the bandwidth to take on the Medicaid- and Medicare-supported patients who depend on access to PP's availability of resources. A study by the Guttmacher Institute found that in the 491 counties where there are currently Planned Parenthood clinics, 103 of them have no other clinics where low-income patients can gain access to affordable contraceptive services, should PP's services be drained.
@realAzhyaAryola



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Anonymous

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"9 Things People Get Wrong About Planned Parenthood



thecut.com/2017/01/misconceptions-about-planned-parenthood.html



Do you know what Planned Parenthood actually does? If you believe Donald Trump and Mike Pence, it's an "abortion factory." If you listen to Carly Fiorina, it's a place where body parts are trafficked. While one in five women will visit a Planned Parenthood in her lifetime, terminating a pregnancy is hardly the only reason why. Nonetheless, the fact that abortion accounts for such a small part of the organization's services does little to distill egregious conservative fantasies about the right to choose.



The many misconceptions about Planned Parenthood empower the long assault against reproductive rights, and with the president-elect's promise to cut the 100-year-old health-care provider's federal funding, correcting those myths and bolstering supporters with valuable information is more important than ever. Not sure about what Planned Parenthood does and doesn't do (ahem: wholesale fetal tissue)? Here's a handy guide to nine things people get wrong about our nation's biggest women's-health-care provider.



FALSE: Abortion is the most popular service that Planned Parenthood provides. Though some pro-lifers paint Planned Parenthood as an organization that exists for the sole purpose of blithely doling out abortions to all who walk through their doors, abortion accounts for only 3 percent of the organization's health-care services (a statistic that conservatives claim distracts from the actual cost of abortion). The main reasons people visit a Planned Parenthood are contraceptive access (31 percent) and STI/STD testing and treatment (45 percent). More than double the number of people visited Planned Parenthood clinics in 2014 for pregnancy tests than for abortion procedures.



FALSE: Planned Parenthood only provides services to women. If Planned Parenthood were to be defunded, women won't be the only ones to lose out. While services vary depending on location, men can visit clinics for prostate, colon, and testicular cancer screenings, vasectomies, male infertility screenings, and sexual-health services, among other necessary health treatments. In 2014, Planned Parenthoods nationwide provided vasectomies to 3,445 men.



FALSE: Planned Parenthood is just for wealthy women, so they'll find health care elsewhere if it were to be shut down. Roughly 75 percent of Planned Parenthood's patients have income at or below 150 percent of the federal poverty level, which is one enormous reason why it is essential the organization's services not be curtailed. The federal funding that Planned Parenthood receives is largely through Medicaid reimbursements. Over half of PP facilities are in medically underserved communities, and unlike most health-care facilities, PP offers same-day appointments, longer hours, and weekend services, making access to preventive health care easier for people who work nontraditional or long hours. In total, Planned Parenthood provides 4,970,000 people worldwide with sexual and reproductive health care and education yearly.



FALSE: Defunding Planned Parenthood would be good for taxpayers. The argument goes that if Planned Parenthood were to be cut off from federal funding, America's taxpayers would benefit. But without the necessary and low-cost health care available at PP, Medicaid spending would actually go up for the federal government and taxpayers. In low-income areas, where women depend on Planned Parenthood for Medicaid-funded contraceptive services, unwanted pregnancies would rise, which would then put a much bigger — and more long-term — burden on Medicaid spending. ThinkProgress estimated that defunding PP would cause Medicaid spending to increase by $650 million over ten years.



FALSE: Teenagers are being indoctrinated by Planned Parenthood to have sex at a young age. One of Planned Parenthood's undersung resources is the wealth of information provided not only in clinics but online, too, at a time when sex education is critically lacking nationwide. Planned Parenthood websites receive approximately 60 million visits a year, and the organization offers both text and call options for teenagers (and adults) who are curious about sex, family planning, sexually transmitted diseases, and contraceptives. Representatives from PP assert that the clinics and information available exist as a means to educate and are not intended to encourage or push young people into anything they are not ready for. (Several studies have shown that providing young people with access to sex education is not correlated to an increase in sexual risk-taking.) Many clinics have teen advocates for other teenagers to speak to, and services offered to teens of all ages are confidential.



FALSE: Planned Parenthood is only available to cis-identifying patients. In an effort to expand its already wide reach, Planned Parenthood now offers hormone therapy for transgender patients, a typically prohibitive or difficult-to-access medical service. While many local clinics that offer hormone-replacement therapy require letters from a patient's therapist before a prescription is given, Planned Parenthood provides HRT with "informed consent." In 26 locations of the 650 Planned Parenthoods nationwide, transgender men and women can receive testosterone or estrogen treatments. Depending on the demand, the number of clinics to provide health-care options to transgender patients is only rising.



FALSE: Planned Parenthood could survive on private donors alone. Over 40 percent of Planned Parenthood's funding comes from federal, state, and local funds. That makes up about $553 million of Planned Parenthood's annual budget, while private donors (from its 2014–2015 report) account for only $353 million a year. Without federal funding, Planned Parenthood would have little chance of survival in communities where a large majority of patients rely on the government's Medicaid and Title X grants. Planned Parenthood's yearly expenses are upwards of $12 billion, and 82 percent of those expenses go to client services, education, and research. With half of the organization's funding cut, decisions would have to be made about which community clinics could stand the loss of services. (One current available action, the Washington Post reports, is for supporters of PP to seek medical care at Planned Parenthood to increase the number of privately insured patients at their clinics.)



FALSE: Planned Parenthood only provides services to Americans. The fight for Planned Parenthood to stay alive may be most potent in our backyards, but it has also extended its reach globally. In 2014, Planned Parenthood Global distributed sexual and reproductive health resources and information to 1,033,964 people worldwide by providing grants to local organizations in countries where access to these resources is severely limited.



FALSE: There will be thousands of other clinics available to women should Planned Parenthood be defunded. While Planned Parenthood is certainly the most recognizable and most familiar abortion provider to most American women, it surely cannot be the only place where women can get an abortion, should they choose to, right? Right? Not so. The argument goes that if PP lost federal funding, local community health centers could step up to fight the good fight and provide health-care services in its stead. But local community centers do not have the bandwidth to take on the Medicaid- and Medicare-supported patients who depend on access to PP's availability of resources. A study by the Guttmacher Institute found that in the 491 counties where there are currently Planned Parenthood clinics, 103 of them have no other clinics where low-income patients can gain access to affordable contraceptive services, should PP's services be drained.

Propaganda. I'm first trimester pro-choice, but PP does not need nor deserve a dime of tax payer money. They spend a $100 million a year or 20% of what it receives in public funding, lobbying government for more money. :crazy:

@realAzhyaAryola

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Propaganda. I'm first trimester pro-choice, but PP does not need nor deserve a dime of tax payer money. They spend a $100 million a year or 20% of what it receives in public funding, lobbying government for more money. :crazy:


Thanks for your input. I stand by my support.
@realAzhyaAryola



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