Oh, look...another shooting in the USA.

[Bricktop]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gilroy-garlic-festival-california-shooting-reported">//https://www.foxnews.com/us/gilroy-garlic-festival-california-shooting-reported



3 dead, several injured.



But they don't need no gun control.

[Anonymous]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gilroy-garlic-festival-california-shooting-reported">//https://www.foxnews.com/us/gilroy-garlic-festival-california-shooting-reported



3 dead, several injured.



But they don't need no gun control.

I thought California had stricter gun controls.

[Bricktop]

The US wouldn't know what gun control is!!!



It's to keep guns OUT of the average person's hands, not IN them.

[Frood]

Another government caused over regulated State and gun free murder zone. All those defenceless unnarmed people allowed to die because of government meddling.

[Anonymous]

While I hate to reduce this kind of event to just thinking tactically or strategically, I get the impression that there was good security overall and plenty of police presence.  I get the impression that even though the shooter was all geared up and had plenty of ammo, he may have only had time for one reload before he was tapped.  Sounds like from the moment the shooter went live, it was all over within one minute.



Evidently there was an accomplice who may or may not have been a shooter, who is still at large.

[Anonymous]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gilroy-garlic-festival-california-shooting-reported">//https://www.foxnews.com/us/gilroy-garlic-festival-california-shooting-reported



3 dead, several injured.



But they don't need no gun control.

Terrible.

[Blazor]

The US wouldn't know what gun control is!!!



It's to keep guns OUT of the average person's hands, not IN them.

Whats wrong with average people  acc_angry



Maybe we should rename this thread "Oh, look.... another anti gun thread by Bricktop" lol.



People dying left and right cause of many things other than guns, yet I never see you wanting to end anything else.



Suppose they tried making alcohol illegal again, because too many people being idiots, drunk driving, domestic abuse, etc. Wouldnt you be mad, not being able to drink again? Its not the alcohol, its choices one makes with alcohol. Same with a gun, the gun is not the killer, its the person behind the trigger.

[Anonymous]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gilroy-garlic-festival-california-shooting-reported">//https://www.foxnews.com/us/gilroy-garlic-festival-california-shooting-reported



3 dead, several injured.



But they don't need no gun control.

I thought California had stricter gun controls.

Probably. Kaliphonia loves government control.

[Wazzzup]

If today is an average day, over 100 people will die in automobile accidents in the US (world wide it will be over 3,000)



So here's what I propose, not a full ban on cars, but rather some major restrictions, like you can only use your car for necessary trips--



for instance-- to the grocery store and to work (and only if you can't get there by public transportation) .  



That weekend trip to see Grandma, go on vacation? Nope, no can do, that trip to see a movie or eat at a nice restaurant? nope, just necessary trips from now on.  Think of all the lives it would save--literally millions.

[Anonymous]

Whats wrong with average people  acc_angry



Maybe we should rename this thread [size=150]"Oh, look.... another anti gun thread by Bricktop"[/size] lol.



People dying left and right cause of many things other than guns, yet I never see you wanting to end anything else.



Suppose they tried making alcohol illegal again, because too many people being idiots, drunk driving, domestic abuse, etc. Wouldnt you be mad, not being able to drink again? Its not the alcohol, its choices one makes with alcohol. Same with a gun, the gun is not the killer, its the person behind the trigger.

You make a valid point   ac_biggrin



It's not as though anything Brick posts on a Canadian message board from Oz is going to have the slightest effect on US gun laws and gun culture.



However, as a US citizen I AM quite aware that my lifetime odds of dying from a deliberate gunshot (not counting a police assassination, suicide by gun, or a gun accident) ...dying from getting shot by somebody else, either for fun or as part of a mass shooting, are about one out of 316.



To put it another way, that sort of death is more likely to come to me than death from the combined risks of drowning, fire and smoke, stabbing, choking on food, airplane crashes, animal attacks, and natural disasters.  



For perspective, heart disease (the #1 cause of death) is 45 times MORE likely to kill me, and dying inside a vehicle is nearly 3 times MORE likely to be my end.



I've grown accustomed to these odds, but I have to admit that I hate that all my grandkids have to live with them too.

[Wazzzup]

Whats wrong with average people  acc_angry



Maybe we should rename this thread [size=150]"Oh, look.... another anti gun thread by Bricktop"[/size] lol.



People dying left and right cause of many things other than guns, yet I never see you wanting to end anything else.



Suppose they tried making alcohol illegal again, because too many people being idiots, drunk driving, domestic abuse, etc. Wouldnt you be mad, not being able to drink again? Its not the alcohol, its choices one makes with alcohol. Same with a gun, the gun is not the killer, its the person behind the trigger.

You make a valid point   ac_biggrin



It's not as though anything Brick posts on a Canadian message board from Oz is going to have the slightest effect on US gun laws and gun culture.



However, as a US citizen I AM quite aware that my lifetime odds of dying from a deliberate gunshot (not counting a police assassination, suicide by gun, or a gun accident) ...dying from getting shot by somebody else, either for fun or as part of a mass shooting, are about one out of 316.



To put it another way, that sort of death is more likely to come to me than death from the combined risks of drowning, fire and smoke, stabbing, choking on food, airplane crashes, animal attacks, and natural disasters.  And for perspective, heart disease (the #1 cause of death) is 45 times MORE likely to kill me, and dying inside a vehicle is nearly 3 times MORE likely to be my end.



I've grown accustomed to these odds, but I have to admit that I hate that all my grandkids have to live with them too.

Also, if you stay out of bad neighborhoods those odds become far lower yet.    Most gun related homicides are in high crime urban areas and are committed by gang members, often against other rival gang members.



Less than one percent of all gun homicide victims are from media headline-grabbing mass shootings.

[cc]

"Legan identified himself as being of Italian and Iranian descent in his Instagram profile, authorities said, which has since been deleted."

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-07-29/what-we-know-about-gilroy-garlic-festival-shooting-suspect-santino-william-legan">https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... liam-legan">https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-07-29/what-we-know-about-gilroy-garlic-festival-shooting-suspect-santino-william-legan



Garlic Festival Shooter Was Iranian/Italian Who Hated White People...

He seems nice.

https://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/santino-william-legan-smokey-the-bear-ig.png">

[Anonymous]

"Legan identified himself as being of Italian and Iranian descent in his Instagram profile, authorities said, which has since been deleted."

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-07-29/what-we-know-about-gilroy-garlic-festival-shooting-suspect-santino-william-legan">https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... liam-legan">https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-07-29/what-we-know-about-gilroy-garlic-festival-shooting-suspect-santino-william-legan



Garlic Festival Shooter Was Iranian/Italian Who Hated White People...

He seems nice.

https://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/santino-william-legan-smokey-the-bear-ig.png">

A hate crime?

[cc]

I forget exact words, but witnesses on TV  said he was shouting "I hate **&^* some type of people



Good thing 3 officers were near and were able to take out a man equipped with an assault rifle using h their  handguns

[Bricktop]

Whats wrong with average people  acc_angry

By "average", I mean, of course, people not involved in the military or law enforcement, or who require a gun for pest control. Ditto sports shooters.



Outside of those parameters, why do you need a gun?

Maybe we should rename this thread "Oh, look.... another anti gun thread by Bricktop" lol.

I'll be happy to oblige when the next slaughter of innocents occurs in your country. Don't worry, it won't be long to wait.

People dying left and right cause of many things other than guns, yet I never see you wanting to end anything else.



Suppose they tried making alcohol illegal again, because too many people being idiots, drunk driving, domestic abuse, etc. Wouldnt you be mad, not being able to drink again? Its not the alcohol, its choices one makes with alcohol. Same with a gun, the gun is not the killer, its the person behind the trigger.

Once again, you claim that because other things kill humans, we should be allowed to have anything that kills humans. Alcohol in and of itself only kills consumers. For the most part alcohol is enjoyed by the majority of society. Guns have no redeeming quality.



I wonder, Blaze...if it was YOUR 3 year old grandchild killed by an "average" person with a "legal" gun, would you reconsider what your country is doing to itself.