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It has been interesting to see the Hong Kong protests evolve from students opposing a piece of legislation (extradition to China bill), to some kind of ad-hoc democracy movement that desires increased democratic voting rights and less influence from mainland China. Not to burst their ideological bubble, but Hong Kong protesters should think twice about believing that western democracy is some kind of model to be emulated. Between their shrill screams at the Hong Kong airport, they might want to pause and consider that a democratically won Brexit has been undermined by a political cabal that believes it knows better, and that in the United States a democratically elected president has been systematically undermined rather than waiting for the next democratic election to kick him out of office. Democracy is a slippery mess. On the one hand, we all fret about whether our vote counts, how important it is to participate in the process, yet democratic institutions have been perverted into devaluing some votes in favour of others. True democracy is allowing the majority to make a decision, even if it turns out to be the wrong one, so that everyone can learn from it and reverse it at the next election if necessary. The minute we allow or accept that small groups are entitled to thwart the will of the majority, we undermine the very purpose of democracy to the point where our Western elections are probably as much of a charade as Chinese ones. Or Hong Kong ones.Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "seoulbro"It has been interesting to see the Hong Kong protests evolve from students opposing a piece of legislation (extradition to China bill), to some kind of ad-hoc democracy movement that desires increased democratic voting rights and less influence from mainland China. Not to burst their ideological bubble, but Hong Kong protesters should think twice about believing that western democracy is some kind of model to be emulated. Between their shrill screams at the Hong Kong airport, they might want to pause and consider that a democratically won Brexit has been undermined by a political cabal that believes it knows better, and that in the United States a democratically elected president has been systematically undermined rather than waiting for the next democratic election to kick him out of office. Democracy is a slippery mess. On the one hand, we all fret about whether our vote counts, how important it is to participate in the process, yet democratic institutions have been perverted into devaluing some votes in favour of others. True democracy is allowing the majority to make a decision, even if it turns out to be the wrong one, so that everyone can learn from it and reverse it at the next election if necessary. The minute we allow or accept that small groups are entitled to thwart the will of the majority, we undermine the very purpose of democracy to the point where our Western elections are probably as much of a charade as Chinese ones. Or Hong Kong ones.Quote from: "Shen Li"
Democracy needs reform, true dat.
Quote from: "Shen Li"Today's protest in Vancouver. The Hong Kong supporters in black shirts vs China people in the red. I fear that this is gonna be a weekly thing.Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Quote from: "Shen Li"Today's protest in Vancouver. The Hong Kong supporters in black shirts vs China people in the red. I fear that this is gonna be a weekly thing.Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"Quote from: "Shen Li"Today's protest in Vancouver. The Hong Kong supporters in black shirts vs China people in the red. I fear that this is gonna be a weekly thing.Quote from: "TheVancouverGuy"
I read that two million people joined yesterday's protests. TWO MILLION.Quote from: "Gaon"
We were considering flying Cathay Pacific to the UK next year.Quote from: "Bricktop"
Not now.
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