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Hong Kong protests

Started by Anonymous, August 16, 2019, 10:41:48 PM

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Quote from: "Zetsu"
Quote from: "Shen Li"It has been interesting to see the Hong Kong protests evolve from students opposing a piece of legislation (extradition to China bill), to some kind of ad-hoc democracy movement that desires increased democratic voting rights and less influence from mainland China. Not to burst their ideological bubble, but Hong Kong protesters should think twice about believing that western democracy is some kind of model to be emulated. Between their shrill screams at the Hong Kong airport, they might want to pause and consider that a democratically won Brexit has been undermined by a political cabal that believes it knows better, and that in the United States a democratically elected president has been systematically undermined rather than waiting for the next democratic election to kick him out of office. Democracy is a slippery mess. On the one hand, we all fret about whether our vote counts, how important it is to participate in the process, yet democratic institutions have been perverted into devaluing some votes in favour of others. True democracy is allowing the majority to make a decision, even if it turns out to be the wrong one, so that everyone can learn from it and reverse it at the next election if necessary. The minute we allow or accept that small groups are entitled to thwart the will of the majority, we undermine the very purpose of democracy to the point where our Western elections are probably as much of a charade as Chinese ones. Or Hong Kong ones.


lol The funniest thing is the extradition bill isn't really biggest threat to HK locals, but the ones that fears it the most is the white collar, corrupt government workers or money laundering businessmen that fled from the mainland to stay and hide in the HK and store all their assets there.

The pro democracy side in HK thinks the bill could be used to extradite them on terror charges.

Anonymous

Jackie Chan is doing public service announcements denouncing protesters on behalf of the Chinese government.

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"Jackie Chan is doing public service announcements denouncing protesters on behalf of the Chinese government.

Jackie Chan has been called the Gene Simmons of East Asia..



Like Gene, he is all about making money..



And to make money in mainland China, you must say and do things the CCP approves of.

Gaon

Another day of rioting in Hong Kong. Police used tear gas to disperse rioters.
The Russian Rock It

cc

Today they circled the city



https://twitter.com/missy_lao/status/1164966238373568512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1164966238373568512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/missy_lao/status/11 ... pers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/missy_lao/status/1164966238373568512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1164966238373568512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"Today they circled the city



https://twitter.com/missy_lao/status/1164966238373568512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1164966238373568512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/missy_lao/status/11 ... pers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/missy_lao/status/1164966238373568512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1164966238373568512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F

Ceec, the BBC reported it a lot differently.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "cc"Today they circled the city



https://twitter.com/missy_lao/status/1164966238373568512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1164966238373568512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/missy_lao/status/11 ... pers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/missy_lao/status/1164966238373568512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1164966238373568512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F

Ceec, the BBC reported it a lot differently.

The pan green and pan blue news in Taiwan report the HK protests very differently.

Thiel

I was at the airport in Hong Kong last month. But, I was connecting to a flight to the mainland.
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Bricktop

As much as we in the west deplore the thought of increased Government force against the rioters, consider how you would feel if thousands of people choked Vancouver or Toronto or Melbourne day after day.



At what point would you want law and order be restored?

Thiel

Quote from: "Bricktop"As much as we in the west deplore the thought of increased Government force against the rioters, consider how you would feel if thousands of people choked Vancouver or Toronto or Melbourne day after day.



At what point would you want law and order be restored?

I absolutely get that. Small business owners, commuters, shoppers and tourists are caught in the middle of this.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"As much as we in the west deplore the thought of increased Government force against the rioters, consider how you would feel if thousands of people choked Vancouver or Toronto or Melbourne day after day.



At what point would you want law and order be restored?

There is that..



And Peking focuses on and exaggerates that segment of HK society.

Bricktop

No doubt. But the rioters are making it easier for them to intervene every day.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Bricktop"No doubt. But the rioters are making it easier for them to intervene every day.

Peking doesn't care if they are rioting or not..



They see them as a threat to their dynastic rule..



If the same protests reached the mainland, it would be a big threat to the CCP.

Bricktop

But what are they protesting about?



Nobody seems to know any more.



They seem to be rioting for its own sake and that can only lead to one conclusion.

Thiel

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "Bricktop"No doubt. But the rioters are making it easier for them to intervene every day.

Peking doesn't care if they are rioting or not..



They see them as a threat to their dynastic rule..



If the same protests reached the mainland, it would be a big threat to the CCP.

Where is that crazy Shen Li? Why isn't she here taking China's side and blaming the protesters.
gay, conservative and proud