Opinion Article: 7 attitudes that make liberals so intolerable

[Anonymous]

I read the entire article cc..



I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.

I think I may understand why?



Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism



Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart

My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.

I too adhere to most tenets of traditional liberalism. Today's progressives represent a gross betrayal of liberalism.

[Bricktop]

One hopes that cc is aware of Hawkins's rabid anti-marijuana stance.

What is the relevance of that remark?



As a progressive, would you not take the opportunity to rebut the points made?

Why do you (and the rest of you lot) insist on pigeonholing me as a "progressive?"



The remark is merely an exercise in the kind of "reasoned discussion" so beloved by SB and others on this forum, namely to begin by tossing a random ad hominem at the source of the OPINION PIECE, lest it lead to one of those BC RWCJs you all seem to enjoy.



The relevance is that if you intend to lionize this hack as your RWCJ centerpiece, you have to take his warts along with his beauty spots.



There are some more warts, but more pertinent ones such as his fondness for the term "spewing hatred" and his mindless ironies about intolerance, smugness, the Constitution, taking comfort in lies and demonization, and "habitual hypocrisy" are simply not things I have the time nor the crayons to help you poor sods understand.

I fail to see how his views on marijuana in any way taint or effect the points he's making on modern liberal/socialism.



As the views and opinions you proffer, both here and elsewhere, put you firmly in the camp of the left, it seems logical that you may wish to offer a counter argument to the tenets of the OP.



Your failure to engage in debate over the writer's observations once again re-inforce the view from we on the right that the people on your side of the fence seem somewhat coy when the light of reasoned observation shines in your direction.



Modern liberalism is a farcical canker on Western nations.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if Peaches was ever a traditional liberal or he prefers the modern perversion of liberalism.

[Anonymous]

I read the entire article cc..



I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.

I think I may understand why?



Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism



Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart

My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.

I too adhere to most tenets of traditional liberalism. Today's progressives represent a gross betrayal of liberalism.

iron horse jockey has said that progressives are not socialists..



I would say they are not liberals either.

[Anonymous]

I read the entire article cc..



I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.

I think I may understand why?



Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism



Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart

My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.

I too adhere to most tenets of traditional liberalism. Today's progressives represent a gross betrayal of liberalism.

iron horse jockey has said that progressives are not socialists..



I would say they are not liberals either.

You are both right. Today's liberals and socialists have been usurped by progtard money and power. A betrayal of socialism and liberalism.

[Anonymous]

I read the entire article cc..



I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.

I think I may understand why?



Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism



Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart

My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.

I too adhere to most tenets of traditional liberalism. Today's progressives represent a gross betrayal of liberalism.

iron horse jockey has said that progressives are not socialists..



I would say they are not liberals either.

You are both right. Today's liberals and socialists have been usurped by progtard money and power. A betrayal of socialism and liberalism.

Do liberals and socialists actually exist anymore? Not in North America obviously. But, is there a place left in the civilized world where those two ideologies have not beeb bought and distorted by prog money.

[Anonymous]

I read the entire article cc..



I can't argue with any of that and I grew up in a family that was active in traditional liberal politics in Taiwan.

I think I may understand why?



Tolerance was traditionally at the very heart of liberalism



Today in so-called liberalism we see no tolerance .. and in fact, no heart

My father would have labels for what passes for liberalism in 2019, but liberal wouldn't be one of them.

I too adhere to most tenets of traditional liberalism. Today's progressives represent a gross betrayal of liberalism.

iron horse jockey has said that progressives are not socialists..



I would say they are not liberals either.

You are both right. Today's liberals and socialists have been usurped by progtard money and power. A betrayal of socialism and liberalism.

Do liberals and socialists actually exist anymore? Not in North America obviously. But, is there a place left in the civilized world where those two ideologies have not been bought and distorted by prog money.

 ac_dunno

[Anonymous]

I wonder if Peaches was ever a traditional liberal or he prefers the modern perversion of liberalism.

Surely you must recall that we've had this conversation previously, and even successfully navigated our way around your tricky language.



But it scarcely matters, due to the paradigm shifts imposed on reality by corporatization -- as I've also pointed out.

[Blazor]

Really good article CC, I agree with it all.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if Peaches was ever a traditional liberal or he prefers the modern perversion of liberalism.

Surely you must recall that we've had this conversation previously, and even successfully navigated our way around your tricky language.



But it scarcely matters, due to the paradigm shifts imposed on reality by corporatization -- as I've also pointed out.

In other words, you were never comfortable with liberalism until it was hijacked by billionaires and rebranded as progessive.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if Peaches was ever a traditional liberal or he prefers the modern perversion of liberalism.

Surely you must recall that we've had this conversation previously, and even successfully navigated our way around your tricky language.



But it scarcely matters, due to the paradigm shifts imposed on reality by corporatization -- as I've also pointed out.

In other words, you were never comfortable with liberalism until it was hijacked by billionaires and rebranded as progessive.

I don't know what you're smoking, but you oughta stick with alcohol.  At least people can sort of tell what you're talking about.

[Anonymous]

Really good article CC, I agree with it all.

[cc]

I wonder if Peaches was ever a traditional liberal or he prefers the modern perversion of liberalism.

Surely you must recall that we've had this conversation previously, and even successfully navigated our way around your tricky language.



But it scarcely matters, due to the paradigm shifts imposed on reality by corporatization -- as I've also pointed out.

In other words, you were never comfortable with liberalism until it was hijacked by billionaires and rebranded as progessive.

I don't know what you're smoking, but you oughta stick with alcohol.  At least people can sort of tell what you're talking about.

There's not understanding



and there's not wanting to understand



and then there's deliberate ad hom



All are not mutually exclusive

[Anonymous]

Really good article CC, I agree with it all.

[Anonymous]

There's not understanding



and there's not wanting to understand



and then there's deliberate ad hom



All are not mutually exclusive

Nor are they mutually INclusive.



Yet all are common currency in political discussions here, as I've learned over time.  And you didn't mention the worst of them, the two most in evidence here -- namely the putting of words into another's mouth and the mislabeling of another's positions without evidence.