It’s Trudeau, not Bernier, who’s the outlier on immigration

[Anonymous]

If you disagree with Trudeau's carbon cash grab, you are a denier. If you disagree with his open borders policy, you are a racist.



By Candace Malcolm of Sun News Media



"Say No to Mass Immigration." This statement is, apparently, beyond the pale.



"It's hurtful," read a quoted featured in the Calgary Herald. A Toronto Star story described it as "deceptive," while a headline in the Sun papers quoted someone calling it "very racist."



It's hard to imagine the bubble-wrapped, politically correct world one has to live in to consider these five words to be "very racist."



Is a country allowed to set its own immigration policy? Do citizens have a say in the ever growing levels of newcomers being admitted into their country?



Given the hysteric reaction over a mundane election billboard from a third party group supporting Maxime Bernier and the People's Party of Canada, the answer to these questions is a resounding "no."



The billboards were pulled down, due to the angry mob of activists who demand that Canada not have debates about immigration.



The billboard had a simple message: "say no to mass immigration," and reflects Bernier's policy position. In contrast to the other major parties, Bernier wants to lower immigration levels. Not drastically, but down to 250,000 new permanent residents per year.



For reference, Canada admitted 240,000 newcomers in 2015. Prime Minister Trudeau has ramped up immigration levels, with plans to increase the number to 350,000 new permanent residents per year next year. In its 2018 immigration proposal, the Trudeau government admitted these were "the most ambitious immigration levels in recent history."



Keep in mind that Canada also admits hundreds of thousands of other newcomers each year: students, temporary workers, asylum seekers and long-term visitors. The real number of immigrants coming to Canada each year is closer to one million.



[size=150]Bernier's proposal, like the supposedly controversial billboards, is modest. He says, "we propose less immigration, better integration of immigrants in our society, and a sharper focus on Canada's economic needs."[/size]



This is a policy statement that the overwhelming majority of Canadians agree with.



Last summer, [size=150]pollsters from Angus Reid found that Canadians by and large wanted lower immigration levels. One poll found that only 6% of Canadians wanted increased immigration numbers, while more than half wanted lower numbers. Another poll found that two-thirds of Canadians believe that we accept too many asylum seekers[/size].



These public opinion findings represent the lowest approval ratings of Canada's immigration program since they started tracking public opinion in the 1970s.



Canada has always prided itself on being an open and welcoming place, and we have a strong record of successful immigration and integration. Newcomers learn our language, embrace our values and join the Canadian family.



But when we have over a million people joining a country of 35 million each and every year, some newcomers will choose not to integrate. They will seek out members of their diaspora, live in self-segregated neighborhoods, and never learn English, meet other Canadians or get involved in the broader community.



These closed immigrant communities are common in Europe. They are the product of mass immigration coupled with failed integration.



Any successful immigration program must have a front and centre focus on integration. But as the Trudeau government opened up Canada's borders, they quietly dismantled important integration measures like language and residency requirements for citizenship.



It is Trudeau, not Bernier, who is the radical when it comes to immigration and integration.



You could argue that the Bernier billboards were brash, rude, or even a little mean-spirited, and that'd be a fair observation. But to call them "racist" and then ban their very existence won't make Canadians any happier with mass immigration without integration.

[Anonymous]

Another issue that Trudeau will attack the Tories on is LGBQT rights even though many Liberals at the time, including Ralph Goodale opposed same sex marriage.



By Lorrie Goldstein of Sun News Media



On Aug. 22, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Minister Ralph Goodale posted on Twitter a 14-year-old speech in Parliament by Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer — then a 25-yearold rookie MP — opposing same-sex marriage.



At that time, Scheer's position was the same as many Conservative and Liberal MPS.



Goodale opposed samesex marriage in parliamentary votes in 1999 and '95.



While Goodale used Scheer's 2005 speech to imply that, if elected prime minister, he would make same-sex marriage illegal — which Scheer has repeatedly denied — he ignored a speech Scheer gave in Parliament on Nov. 28, 2017, less than two years ago, not 14, and as Conservative leader, not a novice Tory MP.



It's not hard to see why. Scheer spoke on behalf of the Conservatives — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke for the Liberals — to apologize for decades of wrongs committed against LGBTQ2 Canadians by previous Liberal and Conservative governments.



This included enforcing laws against homosexuality in an era when public servants, including members of the Canadian military, were labelled security risks and fired if their sexual orientation became known.



Here is the speech Scheer gave. Decide for yourself whether they are the words of a homophobe, as the Liberals allege, someone who hates and fears homosexuals:



"Mr. Speaker, I rise today to join my colleagues in the House to reflect on a terrible moment of injustice in the history of the Canadian federal government.



"It is our responsibility, as parliamentarians, to defend the fundamental freedoms and rights of all Canadians.



"Among those rights is that of equal treatment before and under the law without unjust discrimination, and to be free of any cruel or unusual treatment or punishment.



"We are here today because many years ago and for too long the government of Canada failed in its duty to protect the basic rights of hundreds of the very Canadians who had dedicated their lives to public service.



"These men and women, these citizens, lost their jobs because they were suspected of being gay.



"At a basic level, Canadians can perhaps picture what losing your livelihood can do to your self-esteem, to your family, to your own quality of life.



"However, it is nothing when compared to the fear and intimidation that many women and men experienced in dealing with their own government and the institutions that they selflessly served.



"For a dark chapter in its history, the Government of Canada perpetuated this injustice. It took upon itself the mantle of judge, jury, and set the private lives of its citizens in its sights. Too often and in too many cases around the world we have seen the terrible consequences of over-reaching governments.



"We need to have an honest discussion with the people who were targeted by the terrible campaign that sought to expose and humiliate LGBTQ2 individuals in the public service.



"In this country, we deplore and condemn injustice towards the innocent, the oppressed, and the persecuted.



"Interrogation and harassment based on fear is its own injustice.



"We must not fail to mention the toll this campaign of intimidation took on the brave women and men in uniform who found themselves the target of their superiors.



"For those who serve our country, the government's accusations regarding their personal lives were made even more offensive by the insinuation that they were acting against the interests of the country they were devoted to. This type of insult is difficult to imagine and impossible to measure.



"The women and men who dedicate their lives to defending Canadians at home and abroad were subjected to a secret and unfair trial: They were arrested and chastised and they were humiliated in front of their families, friends and colleagues; many livelihoods were destroyed and many lives were cut short.



"I firmly believe that we have to acknowledge that this country is only getting better.



"Hard work has been done over generations to ensure Canada remains a champion of justice, human rights, and liberty. All of us here continually strive to be better, as elected officials, as a people, and as a country.



"The Conservatives deeply believe in these principles. All human beings have the same value and the same dignity and deserve respect, and women and men who have differing views respect each other as human beings.



"The government cannot, the government must not deny the dignity or freedom of those citizens who seek to make Canada a better place. How you treat your fellow Canadians, how you work every day to make the country stronger, how you give of yourself to your families, to your communities, and to your loved ones, those are the true measures of one's love for Canada.



"Today's apology must be an opportunity for all of us to recommit to defending human rights, not only here, in Canada, but around the world. Too many countries around the globe, today, have despicable policies that officialize the harassment of gays and lesbians. Too often, the consequences are not only job loss and public shame, but torture and death.



"Canada is better than that. We must do more to stand up for the LGBTQ2 community in places like Iran, Russia and other countries where it is the target of brutal violence. I am personally proud of the work done by the previous government to prioritize these and other refugee groups who are particularly vulnerable.



"We all have a duty, here, today, to ensure that Canada is the best for everyone, no matter who they are. For those who were forced to abandon a career they spent years building and for those who were rejected without recourse, we hope that today's apology offers some justice.



"It cannot undo the wrongdoing and pain they have endured, but it is another important step toward leaving the next generation a Parliament that more fully embraces its duty to protect the rights and freedoms of every person it was built to serve."



While Scheer hasn't gone to any Pride parades, the Conservative party under his leadership supports increasing the number of LGBTQ2 refugees Canada accepts every year, and making the funding to do so permanent.



The Liberals have also suggested Scheer will restrict access to abortion as PM because of his religious views — which Scheer has also denied.



Ironically, Trudeau said as a Liberal MP in 2011 that while he strongly opposed abortion because of his religious upbringing, he would always defend the rights of women to access abortion.



That's the same as Scheer's position. But for Liberals, it's only controversial when a Conservative says it.

[Anonymous]

I expect this election to be very dirty..



Trudeau's campaign will make outrageous accusations just like the NDP did in the Alberta election.

[Anonymous]

I expect this election to be very dirty..



Trudeau's campaign will make outrageous accusations just like the NDP did in the Alberta election.

It's already started. The old video of Scheer arguing against same sex marriage. Expect to see that video repeatedly when the writ is dropped.

[Thiel]

Another issue that Trudeau will attack the Tories on is LGBQT rights even though many Liberals at the time, including Ralph Goodale opposed same sex marriage.



By Lorrie Goldstein of Sun News Media



On Aug. 22, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Minister Ralph Goodale posted on Twitter a 14-year-old speech in Parliament by Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer — then a 25-yearold rookie MP — opposing same-sex marriage.



At that time, Scheer's position was the same as many Conservative and Liberal MPS.



Goodale opposed samesex marriage in parliamentary votes in 1999 and '95.



While Goodale used Scheer's 2005 speech to imply that, if elected prime minister, he would make same-sex marriage illegal — which Scheer has repeatedly denied — he ignored a speech Scheer gave in Parliament on Nov. 28, 2017, less than two years ago, not 14, and as Conservative leader, not a novice Tory MP.



It's not hard to see why. Scheer spoke on behalf of the Conservatives — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke for the Liberals — to apologize for decades of wrongs committed against LGBTQ2 Canadians by previous Liberal and Conservative governments.



This included enforcing laws against homosexuality in an era when public servants, including members of the Canadian military, were labelled security risks and fired if their sexual orientation became known.



Here is the speech Scheer gave. Decide for yourself whether they are the words of a homophobe, as the Liberals allege, someone who hates and fears homosexuals:



"Mr. Speaker, I rise today to join my colleagues in the House to reflect on a terrible moment of injustice in the history of the Canadian federal government.



"It is our responsibility, as parliamentarians, to defend the fundamental freedoms and rights of all Canadians.



"Among those rights is that of equal treatment before and under the law without unjust discrimination, and to be free of any cruel or unusual treatment or punishment.



"We are here today because many years ago and for too long the government of Canada failed in its duty to protect the basic rights of hundreds of the very Canadians who had dedicated their lives to public service.



"These men and women, these citizens, lost their jobs because they were suspected of being gay.



"At a basic level, Canadians can perhaps picture what losing your livelihood can do to your self-esteem, to your family, to your own quality of life.



"However, it is nothing when compared to the fear and intimidation that many women and men experienced in dealing with their own government and the institutions that they selflessly served.



"For a dark chapter in its history, the Government of Canada perpetuated this injustice. It took upon itself the mantle of judge, jury, and set the private lives of its citizens in its sights. Too often and in too many cases around the world we have seen the terrible consequences of over-reaching governments.



"We need to have an honest discussion with the people who were targeted by the terrible campaign that sought to expose and humiliate LGBTQ2 individuals in the public service.



"In this country, we deplore and condemn injustice towards the innocent, the oppressed, and the persecuted.



"Interrogation and harassment based on fear is its own injustice.



"We must not fail to mention the toll this campaign of intimidation took on the brave women and men in uniform who found themselves the target of their superiors.



"For those who serve our country, the government's accusations regarding their personal lives were made even more offensive by the insinuation that they were acting against the interests of the country they were devoted to. This type of insult is difficult to imagine and impossible to measure.



"The women and men who dedicate their lives to defending Canadians at home and abroad were subjected to a secret and unfair trial: They were arrested and chastised and they were humiliated in front of their families, friends and colleagues; many livelihoods were destroyed and many lives were cut short.



"I firmly believe that we have to acknowledge that this country is only getting better.



"Hard work has been done over generations to ensure Canada remains a champion of justice, human rights, and liberty. All of us here continually strive to be better, as elected officials, as a people, and as a country.



"The Conservatives deeply believe in these principles. All human beings have the same value and the same dignity and deserve respect, and women and men who have differing views respect each other as human beings.



"The government cannot, the government must not deny the dignity or freedom of those citizens who seek to make Canada a better place. How you treat your fellow Canadians, how you work every day to make the country stronger, how you give of yourself to your families, to your communities, and to your loved ones, those are the true measures of one's love for Canada.



"Today's apology must be an opportunity for all of us to recommit to defending human rights, not only here, in Canada, but around the world. Too many countries around the globe, today, have despicable policies that officialize the harassment of gays and lesbians. Too often, the consequences are not only job loss and public shame, but torture and death.



"Canada is better than that. We must do more to stand up for the LGBTQ2 community in places like Iran, Russia and other countries where it is the target of brutal violence. I am personally proud of the work done by the previous government to prioritize these and other refugee groups who are particularly vulnerable.



"We all have a duty, here, today, to ensure that Canada is the best for everyone, no matter who they are. For those who were forced to abandon a career they spent years building and for those who were rejected without recourse, we hope that today's apology offers some justice.



"It cannot undo the wrongdoing and pain they have endured, but it is another important step toward leaving the next generation a Parliament that more fully embraces its duty to protect the rights and freedoms of every person it was built to serve."



While Scheer hasn't gone to any Pride parades, the Conservative party under his leadership supports increasing the number of LGBTQ2 refugees Canada accepts every year, and making the funding to do so permanent.



The Liberals have also suggested Scheer will restrict access to abortion as PM because of his religious views — which Scheer has also denied.



Ironically, Trudeau said as a Liberal MP in 2011 that while he strongly opposed abortion because of his religious upbringing, he would always defend the rights of women to access abortion.



That's the same as Scheer's position. But for Liberals, it's only controversial when a Conservative says it.

No government will ever take away a charter right. Trudeau knows that, but he hopes Canadians do not.

[Anonymous]

Anyone seen any lawn signs yet? I've seen one and it's for the People's Party.

[Anonymous]

Anyone seen any lawn signs yet? I've seen one and it's for the People's Party.

Not yet.

[Anonymous]

If you disagree with Trudeau's carbon cash grab, you are a denier. If you disagree with his open borders policy, you are a racist.



By Candace Malcolm of Sun News Media



"Say No to Mass Immigration." This statement is, apparently, beyond the pale.



"It's hurtful," read a quoted featured in the Calgary Herald. A Toronto Star story described it as "deceptive," while a headline in the Sun papers quoted someone calling it "very racist."



It's hard to imagine the bubble-wrapped, politically correct world one has to live in to consider these five words to be "very racist."



Is a country allowed to set its own immigration policy? Do citizens have a say in the ever growing levels of newcomers being admitted into their country?



Given the hysteric reaction over a mundane election billboard from a third party group supporting Maxime Bernier and the People's Party of Canada, the answer to these questions is a resounding "no."



The billboards were pulled down, due to the angry mob of activists who demand that Canada not have debates about immigration.



The billboard had a simple message: "say no to mass immigration," and reflects Bernier's policy position. In contrast to the other major parties, Bernier wants to lower immigration levels. Not drastically, but down to 250,000 new permanent residents per year.



For reference, Canada admitted 240,000 newcomers in 2015. Prime Minister Trudeau has ramped up immigration levels, with plans to increase the number to 350,000 new permanent residents per year next year. In its 2018 immigration proposal, the Trudeau government admitted these were "the most ambitious immigration levels in recent history."



Keep in mind that Canada also admits hundreds of thousands of other newcomers each year: students, temporary workers, asylum seekers and long-term visitors. The real number of immigrants coming to Canada each year is closer to one million.



[size=150]Bernier's proposal, like the supposedly controversial billboards, is modest. He says, "we propose less immigration, better integration of immigrants in our society, and a sharper focus on Canada's economic needs."[/size]



This is a policy statement that the overwhelming majority of Canadians agree with.



Last summer, [size=150]pollsters from Angus Reid found that Canadians by and large wanted lower immigration levels. One poll found that only 6% of Canadians wanted increased immigration numbers, while more than half wanted lower numbers. Another poll found that two-thirds of Canadians believe that we accept too many asylum seekers[/size].



These public opinion findings represent the lowest approval ratings of Canada's immigration program since they started tracking public opinion in the 1970s.



Canada has always prided itself on being an open and welcoming place, and we have a strong record of successful immigration and integration. Newcomers learn our language, embrace our values and join the Canadian family.



But when we have over a million people joining a country of 35 million each and every year, some newcomers will choose not to integrate. They will seek out members of their diaspora, live in self-segregated neighborhoods, and never learn English, meet other Canadians or get involved in the broader community.



These closed immigrant communities are common in Europe. They are the product of mass immigration coupled with failed integration.



Any successful immigration program must have a front and centre focus on integration. But as the Trudeau government opened up Canada's borders, they quietly dismantled important integration measures like language and residency requirements for citizenship.



It is Trudeau, not Bernier, who is the radical when it comes to immigration and integration.



You could argue that the Bernier billboards were brash, rude, or even a little mean-spirited, and that'd be a fair observation. But to call them "racist" and then ban their very existence won't make Canadians any happier with mass immigration without integration.

Other than Bernier, no party leader is listening to what the people want.

[Anonymous]

That pissed me off that the company that owned the billboards refused to put up Bernier's Say No To Mass Immigration signs in Toronto.

[Anonymous]

That pissed me off that the company that owned the billboards refused to put up Bernier's Say No To Mass Immigration signs in Toronto.

Those billboards were created by True North Strong & Free Advertising..



Maxime Bernier said he agreed with the message.

[Bricktop]

Perhaps if Canadians stopped mimicking Americans and accepted that they do NOT have to repeat everything Americans do, such nonsense would not occur.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps if Canadians stopped mimicking Americans and accepted that they do NOT have to repeat everything Americans do, such nonsense would not occur.

Would there be a public reaction in Australia over those billboards?

[Gaon]

Those billboards are a regular part of elections in Israel. A lot of Israelis think the country takes too many immigrants. Myself included.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps if Canadians stopped mimicking Americans and accepted that they do NOT have to repeat everything Americans do, such nonsense would not occur.

The assault on free speech that originated in the democRAT party has infected our politics.

[cc]

Perhaps if Canadians stopped mimicking Americans and accepted that they do NOT have to repeat everything Americans do, such nonsense would not occur.

That implies the US is leading the way on leftism and control over the right when the very opposite is the case. The rest of the West started long before the US.



Look at Europe where it's been that way for a long time .. with Canada not far behind. You would know where oz fits into it all