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When your neighbors and friends were losing their jobs you didn't care and now that the UCP government is asking you to help your fellow Albertans you are wanting your neighbors to care about you..



It's time realize you have not been paying your fair share!

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"When your neighbors and friends were losing their jobs you didn't care and now that the UCP government is asking you to help your fellow Albertans you are wanting your neighbors to care about you..



It's time realize you have not been paying your fair share!

Saskatchewan will return to a small surplus this year. The small cuts we made, have paid off. Stick to your guns Albertans. The reward will be paying down the NDP's deficit.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Fashionista"When your neighbors and friends were losing their jobs you didn't care and now that the UCP government is asking you to help your fellow Albertans you are wanting your neighbors to care about you..



It's time realize you have not been paying your fair share!

Saskatchewan will return to a small surplus this year. The small cuts we made, have paid off. Stick to your guns Albertans. The reward will be paying down the NDP's deficit.

What's ironic is that it's not the government that has threatened to fire teachers and nurses..



It's AHS executives and ministry of education executives..



In fact, the health care budget actually increases by 201 million dollars this year.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"When your neighbors and friends were losing their jobs you didn't care and now that the UCP government is asking you to help your fellow Albertans you are wanting your neighbors to care about you..



It's time realize you have not been paying your fair share!

Truth. :thumbup:

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"When your neighbors and friends were losing their jobs you didn't care and now that the UCP government is asking you to help your fellow Albertans you are wanting your neighbors to care about you..



It's time realize you have not been paying your fair share!

Truth. :thumbup:

The membership knew the days of raises above the rate of inflation couldn't continue, especially in a time of slow economic growth..



But, instead our AUPE leadership is asking for a 7.9 per cent increase.

 :crazy:



Most positions that have to be eliminated should be education and health care executives, but they decide how where the cuts are to be  made and they have decided their own highly paid jobs are more important than front line teachers and nurses.

Anonymous

Alberta, like Ontario has a spoiled out of touch public sector union leadership. Neither province can afford it.



GOODBYE GRAVY TRAIN

NDP government kept public-sector workers insulated from Alberta's economic realities



At the protests outside the UCP annual convention in Calgary over the weekend, one of the organizers insisted, "I hope (Premier Jason Kenney) realizes that it's not a minority, it's a huge majority that are against" his government's budget cuts and wage rollbacks.



That organizer, teacher Stephanie Quesnel, needs to expand her circle of contacts. Instead of just speaking to other public-sector unionists, Quesnel might want to reach out to some rig workers or small business owners.



How about throwing in a welder or two, a framer, a roofer or carpenter?



Quesnel may only be hearing from people who are opposed to the UCP'S spending cuts of 2.8 per cent ($1.5 billion) over the next four years — out of a budget of more than $55 billion. But that's because she's not casting her net widely enough.



I'm sure the cuts seem big to public-sector workers losing their jobs or facing a two-percent wage rollback. But among private-sector workers who have seen their incomes slashed and their jobs eliminated in the past four years, I'm guessing the sentiment is, "Join the club."



No layoffs



[size=150]Under the NDP government for four years, the public-sector grew from 19 per cent of Alberta's workforce to nearer 24 per cent. There were no layoffs. And wage increases kept coming.

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Yes, technically, there was a wage freeze. But under the Notley government annual experience raises kept coming. And a lot of public workers who reached the 10-year maximum on their salary scale had their positions creatively renamed so they could continue to get raises on a new pay scale.



This summer, [size=150]University of Calgary economist Trevor Tombe released a whole host of numbers showing just how good the public-sector had it (relative to the private sector) during Alberta's long recession under the NDP.



According to Tombe (who is in no way a right-wing ideologue), in just the first two years of the NDP'S tenure, total incomes in Alberta fell by 20 per cent. Incomes of public-sector workers are included in that stat — yet their incomes didn't fall at all under the Notley-ites. That means private-sector wages must have fallen initially by more than 20 per cent.[/size]




That drop in private-sector incomes sucked $75 billion — per year — out of Alberta's economy.



There has since been some recovery. Still, when the NDP left office in April, private-sector income remained eight per cent below where it was when Notley was elected.



Two-percent cut



Remember, the UCP government is asking public-sector workers to take just a two-percent cut.



Under the NDP, a net 60,000 Albertans lost their jobs and didn't get new ones — all of them in the private sector. And there are now 100,000 fewer Albertans working in jobs that pay more than $30 per hour, according to Tombe.



That's a huge hit; one not shared by the public-sector workers marching around outside the UCP convention.



"Much of the decline in high-wage employment is concentrated in only a few sectors," Tombe also explains, "construction (down more than 45,000 jobs), mining, oil and gas (down nearly 35,000), and professional services (down 18,000)."



What's more, private-sector workers who are still employed have seen the amount they work drop by an average of two hours a week. That doesn't sound like much, but those hours are typically overtime and overtime is the best-paid work.



That's the equivalent of a drop of three to four hours of regular time a week. At $30 per hour over a year that's upwards of $6,000. By comparison, a two-percent rollback for a teacher or nurse or civil servant making $80,000 a year works out to just $1,600.



The gravy train that public-sector workers enjoyed under the NDP couldn't have continued. Nor could the wild, out-of-control spending on public services.



I think most Albertans know that and agree something had to be done.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"When your neighbors and friends were losing their jobs you didn't care and now that the UCP government is asking you to help your fellow Albertans you are wanting your neighbors to care about you..



It's time realize you have not been paying your fair share!

Truth. :thumbup:

The membership knew the days of raises above the rate of inflation couldn't continue, especially in a time of slow economic growth..



But, instead our AUPE leadership is asking for a 7.9 per cent increase.

 :crazy:



Most positions that have to be eliminated should be education and health care executives, but they decide how where the cuts are to be  made and they have decided their own highly paid jobs are more important than front line teachers and nurses.

If job losses have to hapoen make them in management.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"When your neighbors and friends were losing their jobs you didn't care and now that the UCP government is asking you to help your fellow Albertans you are wanting your neighbors to care about you..



It's time realize you have not been paying your fair share!

Truth. :thumbup:

The membership knew the days of raises above the rate of inflation couldn't continue, especially in a time of slow economic growth..



But, instead our AUPE leadership is asking for a 7.9 per cent increase.

 :crazy:



Most positions that have to be eliminated should be education and health care executives, but they decide how where the cuts are to be  made and they have decided their own highly paid jobs are more important than front line teachers and nurses.

Our union bosses don't represent the wishes of due paying members anymore either. They are corrupt as hell too.

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"When your neighbors and friends were losing their jobs you didn't care and now that the UCP government is asking you to help your fellow Albertans you are wanting your neighbors to care about you..



It's time realize you have not been paying your fair share!

Truth. :thumbup:

The membership knew the days of raises above the rate of inflation couldn't continue, especially in a time of slow economic growth..



But, instead our AUPE leadership is asking for a 7.9 per cent increase.

 :crazy:



Most positions that have to be eliminated should be education and health care executives, but they decide how where the cuts are to be  made and they have decided their own highly paid jobs are more important than front line teachers and nurses.

If job losses have to hapoen make them in management.

The government should decide, not managers should decide who gets laid off.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "iron horse jockey"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
Quote from: "seoulbro"
Quote from: "Fashionista"When your neighbors and friends were losing their jobs you didn't care and now that the UCP government is asking you to help your fellow Albertans you are wanting your neighbors to care about you..



It's time realize you have not been paying your fair share!

Truth. :thumbup:

The membership knew the days of raises above the rate of inflation couldn't continue, especially in a time of slow economic growth..



But, instead our AUPE leadership is asking for a 7.9 per cent increase.

 :crazy:



Most positions that have to be eliminated should be education and health care executives, but they decide how where the cuts are to be  made and they have decided their own highly paid jobs are more important than front line teachers and nurses.

If job losses have to hapoen make them in management.

The government should decide, not managers should decide who gets laid off.

I agree Herman.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

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Alberta has been even more generous with our teachers.

Anonymous

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Alberta has been even more generous with our teachers.

It's the power of the Ontario teachers federation. Their pension fund is the majority owner of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"
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Quote from: "Herman"https://scontent.fyyc2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/79142336_159135838793980_3225217738590912512_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ohc=Rm5GKNTwXGkAQmM59zNiAfPfmlfwmrLW3LIWPwFtrgxBhJ5Eb2hAhp7-A&_nc_ht=scontent.fyyc2-1.fna&oh=1e832f0bb49351e9d2059c435deb4eb1&oe=5E3DFE75">

Alberta has been even more generous with our teachers.

It's the power of the Ontario teachers federation. Their pension fund is the majority owner of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

That is a big pension fund.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "Fashionista"
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Alberta has been even more generous with our teachers.

It's the power of the Ontario teachers federation. Their pension fund is the majority owner of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

They have bought most of the media hysteria against Ford.