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COVID-19 >> New Drug Activity & VACCINE TRACKING!!

Started by cc, January 26, 2020, 09:18:38 PM

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Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=398969 time=1611435911 user_id=88
Well, he made a deal early and counted on China and was willing to inject us with "made in china" stuff .. then china told him to get lost (prolly a good thing) .. so in July he had missed the boat by several months .. so here we are at the tail of the quew



Brilliant .... @#$%%^ useless twt

Sinovac is the least effective of all the vaccines.

Anonymous

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Despite being asked about the delayed Pfizer shipments by reporters from several media outlets, Justin Trudeau never mentioned that as a country we would get zero doses next week..



Our pm also couldn't answer why Canada will receive reduced deliveries for four weeks while European countries are only going to be short for one week.

Anonymous

Justin to the rescue.

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cc

#2585
I have been searching info on Oxford and Johnson



Seems effectiveness if in the 60 - 70% range .. not too encouraging, although they seem to help (as all seem to) lighten a Covid attack a lot for those vaccinated and contract Covid



Seems the mRNA path is the only way to go .. Pfizer & Moderna got it right - faster to create and far more effective



Duration and action against variants will be the final test .. although, by their very nature, mRNA vaccines (Pfizer & Moderna) can be much more quickly tweaked
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=399245 time=1611547218 user_id=88
I have been searching info on Oxford and Johnson



Seems effectiveness if in the 60 - 70% range .. not too encouraging, although they seem to help (as all seem to) lighten a Covid attack a lot



Seems the mRNA path is the way to go .. Pfizer & Moderna got it right - faster to create and far more effective



Duration and action against variants will be the final test .. although, by their very nature, mRNA vaccines can be much more quickly tweaked

Is Oxford the Astra Zeneca one?



I believe the Johnson and Johnson vaccine is the one that only requires one jab.

cc

I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

Update: it looks like India's regulatory authorities have already declined to issue an accelerated approval for the Oxford/AZ candidate, which may be a sign of trouble to come. . .



https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/12/09/the-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-efficacy-data">https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/a ... icacy-data">https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/12/09/the-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-efficacy-data



Link explores this one in detail



There may be a real slowdown - as data indicated a smaller initial dose may produce 90% .. so they may have to do new trials on that .. dunno for sure, but this one may slow down as there are unanswered questions about it



Again, those who went the mRNA route may have taken by far the best route
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

https://www.statnews.com/2020/12/19/a-side-by-side-comparison-of-the-pfizer-biontech-and-moderna-vaccines/">A side-by-side comparison of the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines



Seems for user, there is no difference between the 2

 

Long term will show how long each remains effective  .. it's possible that could vary between them

 

In the main they are very similar, but each attacks the virus in different ways  .. "Todays" difference to user shows no difference that I can find anywhere

 

Does seem Oxford might be problematic the more I dig into it .. possibly even delayed for more trial



BTW- Canada is negotiating with Moderna - "possibility" of getting more quickly





Rumor has it, no suppliers will send to OZ .. Oz will remain closed for business forever



 :sneaky2:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=399294 time=1611553917 user_id=88
A side-by-side comparison of the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines



Seems for user, there is no difference between the 2

 

Long term will show how long each remains effective  .. it's possible that could vary between them

 

In the main they are very similar, but each attacks the virus in different ways  .. "Todays" difference to user shows no difference that I can find anywhere

 

Does seem Oxford might be problematic the more I dig into it .. possibly even delayed for more trial



BTW- Canada is negotiating with Moderna - "possibility" of getting more quickly





Rumor has it, no suppliers will send to OZ .. Oz will remain closed for business forever



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Why?



I have no faith in our prime minister to actually get vaccines here ahead of schedule.

cc

#2591
That was just a present for anti-vaccer  ... a Dinky Do from Oz :wink:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=399307 time=1611557144 user_id=88
That was just a Dinky Do  :wink:

Ah, I see..



I wonder how Australa is doing with their vaccination rollout.

cc

Dunno



As to Canada negotiations, that's all it is .. but someone is trying  .. heard the govt person on Global tonight   .. didn't get the name



And yes, Trudy is totally incompetent  .. he failed ALL of his people .. very badly .. VERY badly
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

It seems Australia won't receive any vaccine doses until next month..



But they didn't record one single new case of the coronavirus on Sunday.



Australia has eye on vaccination drive even though coronavirus under control

https://www.thetelegram.com/news/world/australia-has-eye-on-vaccination-drive-even-though-coronavirus-under-control-544311/">https://www.thetelegram.com/news/world/ ... ol-544311/">https://www.thetelegram.com/news/world/australia-has-eye-on-vaccination-drive-even-though-coronavirus-under-control-544311/