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COVID-19 >> New Drug Activity & VACCINE TRACKING!!

Started by cc, January 26, 2020, 09:18:38 PM

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Quote from: Fashionista post_id=409742 time=1619801674 user_id=3254
Russian and Chinese media are systematically seeking to sow mistrust in Western COVID-19 vaccines in their latest disinformation campaigns aimed at dividing the West, a European report said on Wednesday.

And one wonky Aussie



Together they throw  weird claims with zero creditable support behind them at a wall hoping one will finally stick ..



Who wodda thot they'd all be shoulder to shoulder throwing stale turds at the same wall?
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Frood

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Quote from: Fashionista post_id=409742 time=1619801674 user_id=3254
Russian and Chinese media are systematically seeking to sow mistrust in Western COVID-19 vaccines in their latest disinformation campaigns aimed at dividing the West, a European report said on Wednesday.

And one wonky Aussie



Together they throw  weird claims with zero creditable support behind them at a wall hoping one will finally stick ..



Who wodda thot they'd all be shoulder to shoulder throwing stale turds at the same wall?


No yuo! Slapper...  :001_rolleyes:
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=409742 time=1619801674 user_id=3254
Russian and Chinese media are systematically seeking to sow mistrust in Western COVID-19 vaccines in their latest disinformation campaigns aimed at dividing the West, a European report said on Wednesday.

Sinovac and Sputnik are the really good vaccines. :laugh3:

Thiel

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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=410153 time=1620301928 user_id=1676
Nobody has actually isolated this covid thing yet. There are no specimens anywhere in the world...at least that any hospital or government wants to share...

Down to silly rubbish I see ... Specimens have been isolated, examined and coded in full detail everywhere in the modern world starting with China in late 2019



Further, each variant get's immediately  isolated, examined and coded in full detail everywhere in the modern world  .. the starting point  for tests used on100s of millions .. and also for creating vaccines to defeat itl

That's what happened and continues to happen.
gay, conservative and proud

cc

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Quote from: cc post_id=410177 time=1620325657 user_id=88
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=410153 time=1620301928 user_id=1676
Nobody has actually isolated this covid thing yet. There are no specimens anywhere in the world...at least that any hospital or government wants to share...

Down to silly rubbish I see ... Specimens have been isolated, examined and coded in full detail everywhere in the modern world starting with China in late 2019



Further, each variant get's immediately  isolated, examined and coded in full detail everywhere in the modern world  .. the starting point  for tests used on100s of millions .. and also for creating vaccines to defeat itl

That's what happened and continues to happen.


Yes. While it was they very first thing virologists did to examine it's structure, they never stop isolating new cases  and looking for changes (new strains)
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Frood

Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

The Covid-19 virus has been isolated many times

https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/">https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/

cc

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=410255 time=1620407480 user_id=1676


No covid has been isolated yet.

https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/" url="https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/">
Quote from: "https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/"


"SARS-CoV2 has been sampled millions of times over from infected people, including those originally found to be infected in China,"


Exactly what I said previously. Like DUH!!! .. It always was a non-issue



Conspiracists are a wonky lot who spend their time in crazy places ... and end up being time wasters / derailleurs of accurate conversation who end up defending their cases only by resorting to child-like / kindergarten  insults (as evidenced throughout)
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Frood

cc is the conspiracy theorist here and easily duped...



She thinks that the injections are good science and for our benefit.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=410286 time=1620437390 user_id=1676
cc is the conspiracy theorist here and easily duped...



She thinks that the injections are good science and for our benefit.

cc easily duped.

 :laugh:

Anonymous

The advice from Health Canada changes again.



Canadians should wait for Pfizer or Moderna vaccine if they can, federal advisory committee says



However, 'In most places where the outbreak is ongoing in Canada, it would make sense to get the first vaccine possible,' one infectious disease expert counters



OTTAWA – The federal government's vaccine advisory committee is recommending people who can wait for an mRNA vaccine, like Pfizer or Moderna, hold out for it, once again contradicting the long-standing advice to Canadians to get the first shot they're offered.



On Monday, the National Advisory Council on Immunization (NACI) issued its recommendation for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Due to an extremely rare blood clotting issue, NACI is recommending that the vaccine be given to people over the age of 30, who don't want to wait for a mRNA vaccine.



NACI's co-chair, Dr. Shelley Deeks, said the mRNA vaccines have been proven to offer strong protection and don't come with the rare blood clot risk.



"What we're saying and what we've said all along is that mRNA vaccines are the preferred vaccine," she said.



NACI's advice on the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, created by its European division Janssen, is similar to the advice they offered when recommending the AstraZeneca vaccine for people over 30 due to the blood clot risk.



The U.S. has administered roughly eight million doses of Johnson & Johnson's one-shot vaccine and has reported 17 cases of the rare blood clot. Canada has administered just over two million AstraZeneca shots and has reported seven cases of the clot, one of which was fatal.



Deeks said while the clots were rare, they were extremely serious and Canadians deserved to know the risk, before they accepted a vaccine.



"They need to make an informed choice as to whether they would prefer to get vaccinated sooner with a Janssen, or AstraZeneca vaccine or wait to receive the mRNA vaccine," she said.



COVID rates vary across the country and Deeks said everyone needs to make a choice based on their own circumstances.



"If someone working from home, not really going out, in a province or territory where there's not much disease, then they're in a very different situation than somebody that works in, let's say a manufacturing plant."



Earlier this year, NACI also advised provinces to spread out second doses of the vaccine up to four months in order to reach as many people as possible with some protection. Deeks said she stands by that recommendation.



"Given our third wave and what is being experienced across the country trying to ensure that the majority of Canadians get their first dose actually really kept us in good standing."



Dr. Zain Chagla, an infectious disease expert and associate professor at McMaster University, said he understands NACI's recommendation has to consider the whole country, but for most Canadians the right vaccine is the one in front of them.



"In most places where the outbreak is ongoing in Canada, it would make sense to get the first vaccine possible. Healthcare is in demand, you're seeing high levels of transmission, these variants are causing younger people to be sick."



He said the longer it takes for Canadians to get vaccinated the longer it will take to lift lockdowns, ease pressure on hospitals and get things back to normal.



"At the end of the day, if people don't get the first vaccine they're offered in Ontario and ended up getting COVID-19 and on a ventilator, that has impacts not only on that person, but it has impacts on society."



Dr. Howard Njoo, Canada's deputy chief public health officer, said all of the vaccines prevent the worst outcomes and with cases still high people should be getting any vaccine that will protect them.



"All of the four approved vaccines in Canada, including, you know the Janssen vaccine, has been shown through the trials to be effective in preventing serious consequences, serious illness and death."



Currently Canadians don't have much of a choice over vaccines, because the mRNA vaccines are the ones arriving in large numbers.



Canada has mostly exhausted its current supply of AstraZeneca vaccines and while the government has a contract for a total of 20 million doses, there are no deliveries currently expected. The government received 300,000 doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, but is holding them back due to potential quality control issues at a U.S. factory where a key ingredient was made.



Njoo said the government is working with officials in the U.S. to ensure the vaccines are safe and will hold them in storage until they are sure.



"Health Canada has been working very closely with their counterparts in the Biden administration, as well as for the manufacturer to get more information, more details to actually assure themselves," he said.



Canada is receiving two million doses of Pfizer vaccines every week and is expected to receive one million doses of Moderna the week of May 10.



Conservative Health critic Michelle Rempel Garner asked Health Minister Patty Hajdu about the advice during question period Monday



"What does Health Canada advise? This is a lot different from what we've been here hearing, taking the first vaccine offered or wait if you can for an mRNA vaccine?"



Hajdu said if Canadians have concerns about any of the vaccine they should turn to their doctor.


https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadians-should-wait-for-pfizer-or-moderna-vaccine-if-they-can-federal-advisory-committee-says">https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ca ... ittee-says">https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadians-should-wait-for-pfizer-or-moderna-vaccine-if-they-can-federal-advisory-committee-says

Anonymous

If Trudeau hadn't screwed up vaccine deliveries so badly Health Canada would not have to issue inconsistent recommendations.

Frood

The recommendations from the start were screwed up and ever changing... still are.



Now we're being told that getting the jab doesn't protect us or others from covid transmission and we still have to wear worthless masks (1-5 of them) even after taking their experimental drugs....perhaps perpetually from now on.
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=410327 time=1620471538 user_id=1676
The recommendations from the start were screwed up and ever changing... still are.



Now we're being told that getting the jab doesn't protect us or others from covid transmission and we still have to wear worthless masks (1-5 of them) even after taking their experimental drugs....perhaps perpetually from now on.

It's our prime minister who messed up.

cc

Any way one slices it, the 2 key factors - chances of getting it, & chances of it being mild if one gets it, are many times better that the longtime used flu vaccines



Speaking of, annual will be likely to allow adjustment of vaccines for variants  .. exactly as has been done for flu vaccines for many years
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell