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COVID-19 >> New Drug Activity & VACCINE TRACKING!!

Started by cc, January 26, 2020, 09:18:38 PM

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Anonymous

For people that got Pfizer, a second dose is so important.



There's more evidence that getting both doses of Pfizer's vaccine may be 'critical' to protecting against emerging variants



Pfizer's vaccine worked against five coronavirus variants in the first lab study to directly compare them.



It added more evidence that both doses may be needed to protect against emerging variants.



Most people who get two doses would be protected against the variant initially from India, the researchers said.


https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-antibody-response-variant-lab-study-2021-6">https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer- ... udy-2021-6">https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-antibody-response-variant-lab-study-2021-6

Anonymous

Here's how effective COVID-19 vaccines have been in Alberta



The new data is measured since Jan. 1, and shows that since then:



 0.2 per cent of of people with dose were diagnosed two weeks or more after getting a first dose

 0.1 per cent of of people with dose were diagnosed two weeks or more after getting a second dose

Those who were unvaccinated or diagnosed within two weeks of getting a first dose represented:



 96 per cent of cases

 93.4 per cent of hospitalized cases

 88.4 per cent of deaths

The province lists the partial effective of the Moderna vaccine as 82 per cent with the Pfizer shot listed as 73 per cent. Complete effectiveness for Moderna and Pfizer is listed at 93 per cent and 90 per cent respectively.



Dr. Hinshaw said Thursday the sample size for AstraZeneca shots is too small for proper analysis.



The data also indicates vaccines work well against COVID-19 variants:



 B.1.1.7 U.K./Alpha variant: 73 per cent partial effectiveness, 91 per cent complete effectiveness

 P1 Brazilian/Delta variant: 75 per cent partial effectiveness, 89 per cent complete effectiveness

Vaccine effectiveness measures how well a vaccine prevents infection.


https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/here-s-how-effective-covid-19-vaccines-have-been-in-alberta-1.5456656">https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/here-s-how- ... -1.5456656">https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/here-s-how-effective-covid-19-vaccines-have-been-in-alberta-1.5456656

cc

QuoteThose who were unvaccinated or diagnosed within two weeks of getting a first dose represented:

96 per cent of cases

93.4 per cent of hospitalized cases

88.4 per cent of deaths


While the top line is the very same as for all scientific studies, something is impossible with the next 2 lines  as there were not enough vaccinated over the period of time stated to account for the high % implied in  bottom 2 lines. . Plus they run counter to all scientific stats which found the very opposite .. i.e. every single scientific study found  far fewer hospitalizations and almost no deaths for those vaccinated





Note,  It starts with >"It's clear that vaccines are remarkably effective," Dr. Deena Hinshaw, the province's chief medical officer of health, told reporters Thursday.



"We can expect both the number of hospitalizations and deaths due to COVID-19 to decrease even more as more of the population is protected by first and second doses."



If the directly above is true, why would vaccinated represent 4% of cases (reasonable), a  higher 6.6% of hospitalizations & even higher 11.6 % of deaths - It doesn't fit the directly above nor several EU science entities & also contradicts itself  



Either they posted the quoted area  out of context, screwed it up,  or  or I'm not interpreting it correctly :confused1:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=412648 time=1622858201 user_id=88
QuoteThose who were unvaccinated or diagnosed within two weeks of getting a first dose represented:

96 per cent of cases

93.4 per cent of hospitalized cases

88.4 per cent of deaths


While the top line is the very same as for all scientific studies, something is impossible with the next 2 lines  as there were not enough vaccinated over the period of time stated to account for the high % implied in  bottom 2 lines. . Plus they run counter to all scientific stats which found the very opposite .. i.e. every single scientific study found  far fewer hospitalizations and almost no deaths for those vaccinated





Note,  It starts with >"It's clear that vaccines are remarkably effective," Dr. Deena Hinshaw, the province's chief medical officer of health, told reporters Thursday.



"We can expect both the number of hospitalizations and deaths due to COVID-19 to decrease even more as more of the population is protected by first and second doses."



If the directly above is true, why would vaccinated represent 4% of cases (reasonable), a  higher 6.6% of hospitalizations & even higher 11.6 % of deaths - It doesn't fit the directly above nor several EU science entities & also contradicts itself  



Either they posted the quoted area  out of context, screwed it up,  or  or I'm not interpreting it correctly :confused1:

It's CTV. They screw up everything.

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=412648 time=1622858201 user_id=88
QuoteThose who were unvaccinated or diagnosed within two weeks of getting a first dose represented:

96 per cent of cases

93.4 per cent of hospitalized cases

88.4 per cent of deaths


While the top line is the very same as for all scientific studies, something is impossible with the next 2 lines  as there were not enough vaccinated over the period of time stated to account for the high % implied in  bottom 2 lines. . Plus they run counter to all scientific stats which found the very opposite .. i.e. every single scientific study found  far fewer hospitalizations and almost no deaths for those vaccinated





Note,  It starts with >"It's clear that vaccines are remarkably effective," Dr. Deena Hinshaw, the province's chief medical officer of health, told reporters Thursday.



"We can expect both the number of hospitalizations and deaths due to COVID-19 to decrease even more as more of the population is protected by first and second doses."



If the directly above is true, why would vaccinated represent 4% of cases (reasonable), a  higher 6.6% of hospitalizations & even higher 11.6 % of deaths - It doesn't fit the directly above nor several EU science entities & also contradicts itself  



Either they posted the quoted area  out of context, screwed it up,  or  or I'm not interpreting it correctly :confused1:

It does seem strange that hospitalizations and deaths would be higher than the vaccinated people who caught it..



If I have time today,  I'll check for more information.

Frood

Blahhhhhh...

cc

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=412662 time=1622893616 user_id=3254
Quote from: cc post_id=412648 time=1622858201 user_id=88


Either they posted the quoted area  out of context, screwed it up,  or  or I'm not interpreting it correctly :confused1:

It does seem strange that hospitalizations and deaths would be higher than the vaccinated people who caught it..



If I have time today,  I'll check for more information.

It's OK. Obviously the writer had no clue and contradicted him or herself and had no idea what they were saying .. like black is white or vice versa



Albeit writers error, I posted knowing  Dink would be given red meat .. something to twist (what conspiracists do) that he wasn't smart enough to figure without my explanation, but he's not relevant to anything but spam anyhow



I'll also see if I can find more from Alberta Health to clarify what appears to be a contradiction



BC found the very same as Hinshaw said herself ""We can expect both the number of hospitalizations and deaths due to COVID-19 to decrease even more as more of the population is protected by first and second doses."" .. in fact rate of protection is being verified daily (about 4%) and reduction of symptoms of those few who get infected is dramatic


Quote from: Herman post_id=412650 time=1622873862 user_id=1689
It's CTV. They screw up everything.
True, but this one was a whopper / colossal contradiction of all science .. .that not only contradicted itself but at the same time also agreed with + contradicted 4 EU Health Depts & Israel .. . not to mention simple logic ... like Double Duh
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Frood

Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

I finally got answer to my question, should I get vaccinated. I was advised to get a single RNA dose. I will book one for next week.

Anonymous

Alberta reported only seven cases of COVID today.

 ac_wot

cc

I get 293



https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/tracking-every-case-of-covid-19-in-canada-1.4852102">https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.4852102">https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/tracking-every-case-of-covid-19-in-canada-1.4852102



I think the battery in your source's count keeper needs a charging   ac_smile
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dinky" post_id=412695 time=1622933276 user_id=88
I get 293



https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/tracking-every-case-of-covid-19-in-canada-1.4852102">https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.4852102">https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/tracking-every-case-of-covid-19-in-canada-1.4852102



I think the battery in your source's count keeper needs a charging   ac_smile

Oops, that number from Global was correct.......for June 5, 2020.

 ac_blush

I checked before today's numbers announced.

Anonymous

Just 0.2 per cent of Albertans who have received their first dose of vaccine have been diagnosed with COVID-19 two weeks or more after receiving the shot.

Anonymous

The old lady and I should be able to get our second doses next month.

Anonymous

More than two-thirds of eligible Albertans have now had a first dose of COVID-19 vaccines.