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Billy Saracino of Franklin Lakes believes a major dose of Hydroxychloriquine, the anti-malarial drug touted by President Trump in fighting coronavirus, may be what saved him. His doctor Robert Bock agrees, and says he's had incredible success in using Hydroxychloriquine to treat his other patients.

https://www.newsbreak.com/new-jersey/franklin-lakes/news/0Oh0iDla/franklin-lakes-lawyer-his-doc-say-drug-touted-by-trump-was-game-changer-in-covid-19-recovery">https://www.newsbreak.com/new-jersey/fr ... 9-recovery">https://www.newsbreak.com/new-jersey/franklin-lakes/news/0Oh0iDla/franklin-lakes-lawyer-his-doc-say-drug-touted-by-trump-was-game-changer-in-covid-19-recovery



After just five days and fifteen pills.

cc

Yes. Some of the improvements are extremely striking ... seen so many examples and many Doc using it for most all patients



The left is making it harder to get it out there .... press on a mission to discredit it ... because T would get credit ... of course



Yesterday I saw a reporter  .. bet you could guess who .. ask if he had financial interests in it



It's as sick as it gets .. .well, except for the virus itself
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Trudeau is considering implementing the never before used Emergency Measures Act. Scott Moe of Saskatchewan and Doug Ford oppose it. Without knowing the details of it, I would prefer Trudeau stay out of it. Stick to supplying the resources, but let the premiers tailor their own COVID-19 responses.

cc

https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/recovered-coronavirus-patients-in-south-korea-testing-positive-again/">More recovered coronavirus patients in South Korea are testing positive



The number of people in South Korea who tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time after apparently recovering has risen to 91 – an increase of 40 from the 51 reported earlier this week, according to a report.



Jeong Eun-kyeong, head of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters that the virus may have been "reactivated" rather than the patients being reinfected, Reuters reported.



Health authorities in the country said epidemiological investigations were under way to figure out what is behind the disturbing trend – as many countries are hoping that people will develop sufficient immunity to prevent a resurgence of the pandemic.





If correct, this is NOT good news
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

caskur

Quote from: "cc"https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/recovered-coronavirus-patients-in-south-korea-testing-positive-again/">More recovered coronavirus patients in South Korea are testing positive



The number of people in South Korea who tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time after apparently recovering has risen to 91 – an increase of 40 from the 51 reported earlier this week, according to a report.



Jeong Eun-kyeong, head of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters that the virus may have been "reactivated" rather than the patients being reinfected, Reuters reported.



Health authorities in the country said epidemiological investigations were under way to figure out what is behind the disturbing trend – as many countries are hoping that people will develop sufficient immunity to prevent a resurgence of the pandemic.





If correct, this is NOT good news


Yeah, this is what I thought might happen. I heard (but cannot be specific) that this illness effects people for several months. A good two months at least.



The lock down has been working here in Western Australia and the WA government aren't going to lift their feet anytime soon. I'm developing a great respect for our Premier.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

Anonymous

Quote from: "cc"https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/recovered-coronavirus-patients-in-south-korea-testing-positive-again/">More recovered coronavirus patients in South Korea are testing positive



The number of people in South Korea who tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time after apparently recovering has risen to 91 – an increase of 40 from the 51 reported earlier this week, according to a report.



Jeong Eun-kyeong, head of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters that the virus may have been "reactivated" rather than the patients being reinfected, Reuters reported.



Health authorities in the country said epidemiological investigations were under way to figure out what is behind the disturbing trend – as many countries are hoping that people will develop sufficient immunity to prevent a resurgence of the pandemic.





If correct, this is NOT good news

How are we supposed to get a vaccine if some people never become immune.

 :ohmy:

Anonymous

COVID-19 Projection Models Are Proving to Be Unreliable



https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/coronavirus-pandemic-projection-models-proving-unreliable/?fbclid=IwAR1FPEV9XBbJRUqgQua5CvnJA5lXB77rYa-iHBmze6D-4W5KwhnAFFh9IJM">https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/c ... hnAFFh9IJM">https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/coronavirus-pandemic-projection-models-proving-unreliable/?fbclid=IwAR1FPEV9XBbJRUqgQua5CvnJA5lXB77rYa-iHBmze6D-4W5KwhnAFFh9IJM



To describe as stunning the collapse of a key model the government has used to alarm the nation about the catastrophic threat of the coronavirus would not do this development justice.



In a space of just six days starting April 2, two revisions (on April 5 and 8) have utterly discredited the model produced by the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. I wrote about the IHME's modeling at National Review on Monday, the day after the first revision — which was dramatic, but pales in comparison to Wednesday's reassessment. This was not immediately apparent because the latest revision (April 8) did not include a side-by-side comparison, as did the April 5 revision. Perusal of the new data, however, is staggering, as is what it says about government predictions we were hearing just days ago about the likelihood of 100,000 deaths, with as many as 240,000 a real possibility.



As I noted in my last post on this subject, by April 5, the projection of likely deaths had plunged 12 percent in just three days, 93,531 to 81,766. Understand, this projection is drawn from a range; on April 2, IHME was telling us cumulative COVID-19 deaths could reach as high as approximately 178,000. The upper range was also reduced on April 5 to about 136,000.



On April 8, the projected cumulative deaths were slashed to 60,145 (with the upper range again cut, to about 126,000). That is, in less than a week, the model proved to be off by more than 33 percent.



My use of the term "off" is intentional. There is no shortage of government spin, regurgitated by media commentators, assuring us that the drastic reductions in the projections over just a few days powerfully illustrate how well social distancing and the substantial shuttering of the economy is working. Nonsense. As Alex Berenson points out on Twitter, with an accompanying screenshot data updated by IHME on April 1, the original April 2 model explicitly "assum[ed] full social distancing through May 2020."



The model on which the government is relying is simply unreliable. It is not that social distancing has changed the equation; it is that the equation's fundamental assumptions are so dead wrong, they cannot remain reasonably stable for just 72 hours.



And mind you, when we observe that the government is relying on the models, we mean reliance for the purpose of making policy, including the policy of completely closing down American businesses and attempting to confine people to their homes because, it is said, no lesser measures will do. That seems worth stressing in light of this morning's announcement that unemployment claims spiked another 6.6 million (now well over 16 million in just the past couple of weeks), to say nothing of the fact that, while the nation reels, the Senate has now chosen to go on recess, having failed, thanks to Democratic obstinacy, to enact legislation to give more relief to our fast-shrinking small-business sector.

Anonymous

Study will test if hydroxychloroquine can prevent COVID-19



The anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine has made headlines in recent weeks for its potential to help with the new coronavirus disease, COVID-19, though its benefits remain unproven. Now, a new study will test whether the drug can prevent COVID-19 transmission.



For the study, researchers in New York and Washington state plan to enroll 2,000 participants who are close contacts of people with confirmed or pending COVID-19 diagnoses.



Participants will be randomly assigned to take either hydroxychloroquine or a placebo for two weeks, and they will be tested daily for COVID-19, according to a statement from the University of Washington (UW), which will collaborate on the study with New York University (NYU).



The trial is expected to last eight weeks, and researchers hope to have the results by summer.

https://www.livescience.com/hydroxychloroquine-prevent-covid-19-study.html">https://www.livescience.com/hydroxychlo ... study.html">https://www.livescience.com/hydroxychloroquine-prevent-covid-19-study.html



My prediction is that this study will confirm other cases. Hydroxychloroquine is effective as a treatment in many cases, but not all. As a vaccine, we will have to wait and see.

Anonymous

Tim Horton's is now requiring all employees to wear masks and have their temperatures taken at the start of each shift..



In addition to that they will be asked questions about symptoms.

Anonymous

This aint good for the US, Canada and the UK.



Hospital Analysis Reports Show Nearly Half Of Coronavirus Patients Are Obese

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/21/nearly-half-coronavirus-patients-obese-hospital-analysis/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=iPQyo_RWWx2N_6Ll6DqUFpe8r4cJvR0lBjfaFlMS">https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/21/near ... 0lBjfaFlMS">https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/21/nearly-half-coronavirus-patients-obese-hospital-analysis/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=iPQyo_RWWx2N_6Ll6DqUFpe8r4cJvR0lBjfaFlMS

Anonymous

More than 5,000 Britons have volunteered to take part in the world's biggest trial to find a treatment for COVID-19 - and it includes the anti-malaria drug touted by Donald Trump.



Trial is being run by Oxford University and includes patients across 160 hospitals

Patients in hospital will trial four drugs currently on the market and in use

One of the drugs is the highly-touted but controversial hydroxychloroquine

Others include an anti-HIV treatment, a steroid and a commonly used antibiotic



More than 5,000 coronavirus patients in the UK have volunteered to take part in a drug trial run by the University of Oxford to find a treatment for COVID-19.



The programme is called the RECOVERY Trial (The Randomised Evaluation of COV-id19 thERapY) and is the world's biggest single trial of drugs to treat the coronavirus.



The university got the support of Chief Medical Officer Professor Chris Whitty and put out a plea to doctors around the country to enrol patients in the voluntary trial.  



Volunteers have since joined the trial from more than 160 NHS trusts around the country and scientists are hopeful more people will continue to sign up.



Participants will receive one of four drugs currently on the market — including the anti-malaria drug touted by Donald Trump, known as hydroxychloroquine.  



The other drugs being looked at as a treatment for COVID-19 include a combination of Lopinavir and Ritonavir (known by the brand name Kaletra), which is used to treat HIV; low-dose Dexamethasone,a steroid used to reduce inflammation; and azithromycin, a commonly used antibiotic.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8229735/More-5-000-Britons-volunteered-worlds-biggest-COVID-19-drug-trial.html">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... trial.html">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8229735/More-5-000-Britons-volunteered-worlds-biggest-COVID-19-drug-trial.html



The sooner we get results from these trials, the sooner we can start prescribing them to coronavirus patients.

Anonymous

If I had severe symptoms I would try any drug. Especially one like Hydroxy and the antibiotic which have been around for over fifty years.

cc

Quote from: "Herman"This aint good for the US, Canada and the UK.



Hospital Analysis Reports Show Nearly Half Of Coronavirus Patients Are Obese

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/21/nearly-half-coronavirus-patients-obese-hospital-analysis/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=iPQyo_RWWx2N_6Ll6DqUFpe8r4cJvR0lBjfaFlMS">https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/21/near ... 0lBjfaFlMS">https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/21/nearly-half-coronavirus-patients-obese-hospital-analysis/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2360&pnespid=iPQyo_RWWx2N_6Ll6DqUFpe8r4cJvR0lBjfaFlMS

Speaking of Tim Horton donuts
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

Quote from: "iron horse jockey"If I had severe symptoms I would try any drug. Especially one like Hydroxy and the antibiotic which have been around for over fifty years.

Yes. There's a new one that looks good .. not sure of name  .. remdesivir by Gillead .. wonder if it's in the trial
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell