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Anonymous

Alberta reported only 33 new cases today..



Our active cases fell to under 800..



If anyone wants to visit Nashville North during Stampede this year they'll need proof that they've had at least one vaccine dose or take a rapid COVID-19 test.

cc

Our last 4 days bottom upward were

46

20

37

30



So far, no sign of opening causing problem. We shall see if it continues



We have opened up a lot ... many still wear masks which are optional in many situations ... more tables in restaurants etc
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=415261 time=1625624461 user_id=88
Our last 4 days bottom upward were

46

20

37

30



So far, no sign of opening causing problem. We shall see if it continues



We have opened up a lot ... many still wear masks which are optional in many situations ... more tables in restaurants etc

We are fully open in Alberta and cases remain low..



Part of that is that school is out now.

Anonymous

For fully vaccinated people the masks don't do shit, neither protect you from anything, nor protect others from you. They just make you look foolish and weak.

Anonymous

The Ontario government is poised to move the province into Step 3 of the COVID-19 reopening plan nearly a week earlier than the previously expected date.



While the details were still being finalized Friday morning, the sources said major highlights of the announcement are expected to allow the following sectors to reopen with 50 per cent capacity indoors with potential maximum numbers of people and physical distancing restrictions on or around July 16: Gyms, restaurants, museums, boat tours, meeting spaces, music events, zoos and aquariums.



Premier Doug Ford said on Monday that details surrounding Step 3, and beyond, would be announced within three weeks.

cc

Here's the poop AFTER TESTING on 2 variants



Seoul Note: Not good news from National Post Article



Virus antibodies are no match for Delta variant, study shows



India variant is four times better able to overcome the protection normally offered by a previous infection



People who have previously caught COVID-19 are now more likely to be reinfected thanks to the Delta variant, a study has found.



https://nationalpost.com/news/world/virus-antibodies-are-no-match-for-delta-variant-study-shows">Laboratory analysis revealed that the variant that originated in India is four times better able to overcome protective antibodies from a previous infection compared with the U.K. Alpha variant



The study also found that a single dose of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccines provided just 10 per cent protection against the delta variant.



The variant was already thought to be up to 60 per cent more infectious than the version that swept the U.K. last winter.





However, the findings, published in the journal Nature, help explain why the virus is currently spreading so quickly, particularly among younger adults, who have been less likely to be double-vaccinated.



They are also likely to increase calls for the vaccination of children, given that youngsters can rely less on natural immunity from past infection than previously thought.



A single dose of either Pfizer or AstraZeneca was "poor or not at all efficient" against both the Delta variant and the Beta (South African) version.



However, administration of a second dose of either vaccine generated a neutralizing response of 95 per cent, although the antibodies were found to be three-to-fivefold less potent against Delta than Alpha.



{Sure seems it's double or nothing} (maybe single only for those who caught it and have some natural antibodies .. just thinking out loud and using common sense, not science-based)
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

I saw a headline today that Pfizer vaccine immunity doesn't last as long as previously thought..



It drops to low sixty per cent range after a while.

cc

I haven't seen that - could well be and this may address that



https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/pfizer-biontech-to-seek-authorization-for-covid-19-booster-shot-1.5502175">Pfizer, BioNTech to seek authorization for COVID-19 booster shot



NEW YORK -- Pfizer and partner BioNTech plan to ask U.S. and European regulators within weeks to authorize a booster dose of its COVID-19 vaccine, based on evidence of greater risk of infection six months after inoculation and the spread of the highly contagious Delta variant.



The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said, however, in a joint statement that Americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster COVID-19 shot at this time.



The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said it was too early to determine whether more than the two shots that are currently required would be called for, saying it was confident for now that the established regimen was sufficient.



"The Pfizer vaccine is highly active against the Delta variant," Dolsten said in an interview. But after six months, he said, "there likely is the risk of reinfection as antibodies, as predicted, wane." Data would be submitted to the FDA within the next month, he added.



Pfizer did not release the full set of Israeli data on Thursday, but said it would be published soon.



"It's a small data set, but I think the trend is accurate: Six months out, given that Delta is the most contagious variant we have seen, it can cause infections and mild disease," Dolsten said.



The FDA and CDC, in their joint statement, said: "We are prepared for booster doses if and when the science demonstrates that they are needed."



Pfizer's own data from the United States showed an erosion of the vaccine's efficacy to the mid-80s after six months, Dolsten said, against the variants circulating there in the spring.



He stressed that data from Israel and Britain suggests that even with waning antibody levels, the vaccine remains around 95% effective against severe disease.



[Frankly, I'm not at all surprised that boosters will be needed and well before a year out]
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

TORONTO -- https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/moderna-co-founder-says-covid-19-booster-shots-will-almost-certainly-be-needed-1.5501545">The co-founder of Moderna says a regular booster shot will 'almost certainly' be needed to increase protection against COVID-19.



Canadian stem cell biologist Derrick Rossi told CTV News Channel on Wednesday that the body's immune system is "primed by vaccination or primary infection," however that immunity wanes over time if those systems are not challenged.



"I think boosters are most likely going to be in the cards and evidence is pointing towards that so this is the evidence emerging out of Israel that a booster is almost certainly the way," Rossi said.



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Rossi said he believes the booster shots will be "variant specific." Rossi explained that mRNA technology can tailor a vaccine to a specific pathogen.



[Further evidence that mRNA was the way to go!! ....& the way of the future for many lifesaving drugs



It will only reach out and kill unsuspecting non-believers  :sneaky2:  ...................................ac_smile  
]
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=415545 time=1625868080 user_id=88
I haven't seen that - could well be and this may address that



https://server5.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sfi/safoyhgq/smno/p2/health/coronavirus/pfizer-biontech-to-seek-authorization-for-covid-19-booster-shot-1.5502175">Pfizer, BioNTech to seek authorization for COVID-19 booster shot



NEW YORK -- Pfizer and partner BioNTech plan to ask U.S. and European regulators within weeks to authorize a booster dose of its COVID-19 vaccine, based on evidence of greater risk of infection six months after inoculation and the spread of the highly contagious Delta variant.



The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said, however, in a joint statement that Americans who have been fully vaccinated do not need a booster COVID-19 shot at this time.



The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said it was too early to determine whether more than the two shots that are currently required would be called for, saying it was confident for now that the established regimen was sufficient.



"The Pfizer vaccine is highly active against the Delta variant," Dolsten said in an interview. But after six months, he said, "there likely is the risk of reinfection as antibodies, as predicted, wane." Data would be submitted to the FDA within the next month, he added.



Pfizer did not release the full set of Israeli data on Thursday, but said it would be published soon.



"It's a small data set, but I think the trend is accurate: Six months out, given that Delta is the most contagious variant we have seen, it can cause infections and mild disease," Dolsten said.



The FDA and CDC, in their joint statement, said: "We are prepared for booster doses if and when the science demonstrates that they are needed."



Pfizer's own data from the United States showed an erosion of the vaccine's efficacy to the mid-80s after six months, Dolsten said, against the variants circulating there in the spring.



He stressed that data from Israel and Britain suggests that even with waning antibody levels, the vaccine remains around 95% effective against severe disease.



[Frankly, I'm not at all surprised that boosters will be needed and well before a year out]

Yes, I believe it was about this.

Anonymous

BC may have underreported their death toll from the coronavirus.



Is B.C.'s COVID-19 death rate really as low as official numbers show?



New report argues there were more than 1,700 unexplained deaths in the province in the 1st wave


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-covid-deaths-analysis-1.6095659">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.6095659">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-covid-deaths-analysis-1.6095659

cc

I just read that article. I'm not sure it has meaning, as little is actually focused on the study itself .. and especially in comparing provinces or areas



Stated in the article is "Especially in the start of the pandemic, it would have been very easy to miss people dying from COVID." ... Well, ya. That is equally true for every area as everyone was trying to figure what was happening



I really understand the early days as it was when I was in hospital with pneumonia and it could have been covid but  no one was clued in yet to be looking for covid



We'll see what this "study" all means soon I'd think and if it's meaningful or not
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Unless there's a sudden change, it will be almost impossible.



Vaccine uptake needed to reopen border will be tough to meet: U of C economist



Having 75 per cent of Canadians fully immunized means 86 per cent of those aged 12 and over who are eligible for a shot will need to get their jabs, Tombe said



The federal government wants to see 75 per cent of Canada's population immunized against COVID-19 with two doses before lifting international travel restrictions and opening the border.



It's a threshold that will be tough to meet, particularly in Alberta, where nearly a quarter of people eligible for a shot still haven't received a dose, said University of Calgary economist Trevor Tombe.



Having 75 per cent of Canadians fully immunized means 86 per cent of those aged 12 and over who are eligible for a shot will need to get their jabs, Tombe said.



"Eighty-six per cent of eligible individuals is perhaps at the higher end of what polls suggest is possible," Tombe said.



"It's going to take a little bit more work to change some views that are out there ... It's certainly possible, but it's going to be a heavy lift for governments."



The federal government has discussed a 75 per cent threshold in recent months, but formalized it in mid-June in the Canada Gazette.


https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/vaccine-uptake-needed-to-reopen-border-will-be-tough-to-meet-u-of-c-economist?fbclid=IwAR1HXrSi9670jaTUMMU5llXPiQEdXHKmU1t_ppbslu4Cwp62DOs5rffVjNE">https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-ne ... Os5rffVjNE">https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/vaccine-uptake-needed-to-reopen-border-will-be-tough-to-meet-u-of-c-economist?fbclid=IwAR1HXrSi9670jaTUMMU5llXPiQEdXHKmU1t_ppbslu4Cwp62DOs5rffVjNE

Anonymous

Trump was right about Hydroxy combined with zinc and azithromycin.



https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712%2820%2930534-8/fulltext">https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S120 ... 8/fulltext">https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext



https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.28.21258012v1">https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21258012v1">https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.28.21258012v1

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=415593 time=1625929360 user_id=114
Trump was right about Hydroxy combined with zinc and azithromycin.



https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712%2820%2930534-8/fulltext">https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S120 ... 8/fulltext">https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext



https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.28.21258012v1">https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21258012v1">https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.28.21258012v1

TDS sufferers would prefer people die than give Trump a win.