COVID-19 >>"True and Helpful" Covid Information Thread

[Odinson]

Dont do it Seoul.



These people serve the Chinese goverment.

I forgot, ur one of them. :001_rolleyes:

I dont get flu shots or stuff like that.



This is a small town, I think I'll manage without a vaccine.

[cc]

Where are you coming from, Seoul? Like WTF?



If it blocks 95% of those exposed from becoming infected .. it's a vaccine ffs ... and greatly effective as a vaccine .... which thus prevents 95% of the spread of all those vaxxed .. greatly helping the cause of minimizing this mess

I have never seen the efficiency to block infection even questioned by any scientist



And yes, it's ALSO an effective  symptom treatment for the 5% that get infected



Then, I've already said all of that  

[Odinson]

Real men dont need vaccines.



Testosterone protects us from all illnesses.

[Anonymous]

Real men dont need vaccines.



Testosterone protects us from all illnesses.

That leaves out all the sissy males on VF.

[Anonymous]

Dont do it Seoul.



These people serve the Chinese goverment.

I am not doing it.



I have antibodies from getting the virus and recovering. I don't need a useless vaccine that is a actually a treatment instead of a vaccine.

What harm would come from getting at least one dose.

[Anonymous]

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 But, my understanding is that vaccines prevent people from getting sick(treatment) rather than prevent people from catching the virus.

For the 5 % who do get infected they do exactly that



Vaccines totally prevent infection is 95% of people who are subjected to the disease .. so do not get sick and thus do not spread



For the few who do catch it, yes, they are greatly protected from severe symptoms



Thus vaccines are a double win (prevention for most and reduction of severity for the few who catch it



That's the beauty of them - Win / win .. even for the few who lose round 1, they still usually win round 2

I read vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

[Frood]

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 But, my understanding is that vaccines prevent people from getting sick(treatment) rather than prevent people from catching the virus.

For the 5 % who do get infected they do exactly that



Vaccines totally prevent infection is 95% of people who are subjected to the disease .. so do not get sick and thus do not spread



For the few who do catch it, yes, they are greatly protected from severe symptoms



Thus vaccines are a double win (prevention for most and reduction of severity for the few who catch it



That's the beauty of them - Win / win .. even for the few who lose round 1, they still usually win round 2

I read vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

They do... and get infected easier. 60/40 percent in hospital are so called "vaccinated" over the unvaxxed.



That tells you something...

[Anonymous]

....

 But, my understanding is that vaccines prevent people from getting sick(treatment) rather than prevent people from catching the virus.

For the 5 % who do get infected they do exactly that



Vaccines totally prevent infection is 95% of people who are subjected to the disease .. so do not get sick and thus do not spread



For the few who do catch it, yes, they are greatly protected from severe symptoms



Thus vaccines are a double win (prevention for most and reduction of severity for the few who catch it



That's the beauty of them - Win / win .. even for the few who lose round 1, they still usually win round 2

I read vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

They do... and get infected easier. 60/40 percent in hospital are so called "vaccinated" over the unvaxxed.



That tells you something...

source?

[Anonymous]

....

 But, my understanding is that vaccines prevent people from getting sick(treatment) rather than prevent people from catching the virus.

For the 5 % who do get infected they do exactly that



Vaccines totally prevent infection is 95% of people who are subjected to the disease .. so do not get sick and thus do not spread



For the few who do catch it, yes, they are greatly protected from severe symptoms



Thus vaccines are a double win (prevention for most and reduction of severity for the few who catch it



That's the beauty of them - Win / win .. even for the few who lose round 1, they still usually win round 2

I read vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

Seoul, why do think the number of cases across Canada has dropped so much?

[Gaon]

Most people are still wearing masks.

[cc]

^^^ I still will in close quarters with people

I read vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

Of course if someone of the 5% gets it they can transmit same as any infected person .. although symptoms and transmission period are shortened as previously discussed



Anyone not infected, whether vaxxed or nor cannot transmit .. Needing to be infected to transit is basic viruses 101



What have you been reading lately???

[cc]

I read vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

They do... and get infected easier. 60/40 percent in hospital are so called "vaccinated" over the unvaxxed.



That tells you something...

source?

Right approach .. You might have to wait for that a while .



 and what are your sources for all the above you have been volunteering of late?

[Anonymous]

I read vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

They do... and get infected easier. 60/40 percent in hospital are so called "vaccinated" over the unvaxxed.



That tells you something...

source?

Right approach .. You might have to wait for that a while .



 and what are your sources for all the above you have been volunteering of late?

I read that not a small number of people who are testing positive in Israel have been double dosed. Now they aren't getting  sick, so that tells me vaccines are more like treatments.

[cc]

so that tells me vaccines are more like treatments.

That's distorting the reality with a small fact while ignoring the main fact



 They are mainly (20-1) a preventative for 95% and "secondarily"  a treatment for the 1 in 20 who becomes infected (definitely a good byproduct)



We are in agreement I think, it's your wording implying they are "only" a treatment that is distorting the overall picture and throwing me



Prevention is the major factor by far .. well, by 20 to 1



That said, I do find the 1 in 20 instances "treatment" part a wonderful bonus ... as in the overall picture the odds become far better that 1 in 20 thanks to weaker symptoms for those few who beat the 1 in 20 odds and of catch it

One has to worry less about being in that 1 in 20 chance it doesn't "prevent" .. as it will them silently act as a type of treatment by easing symptoms .. again, Win / Win

[Anonymous]

so that tells me vaccines are more like treatments.

That's distorting the reality with a small fact while ignoring the main fact



 They are mainly (20-1) a preventative for 95% and "secondarily"  a treatment for the 1 in 20 who becomes infected (definitely a good byproduct)



We are in agreement I think, it's your wording implying they are "only" a treatment that is distorting the overall picture and throwing me



Prevention is the major factor by far .. well, by 20 to 1



That said, I do find the 1 in 20 instances "treatment" part a wonderful bonus ... as in the overall picture the odds become far better that 1 in 20 thanks to weaker symptoms for those few who beat the 1 in 20 odds and of catch it

One has to worry less about being in that 1 in 20 chance it doesn't "prevent" .. as it will them silently act as a type of treatment by easing symptoms .. again, Win / Win

Apparently Israel does more testing of the fully vaccinated. I believe if more fully vaccinated people in Canada were tested, the daily infection rate would be much higher.



Vaccines are working very well keeping people out of hospitals. But, I no longer believe they are as effective as the companies claim at stopping transmission.