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Obama And Dems Are As Responsible For Government Shutdown

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Romero

Quote104 Current Congressional Republicans Voted to Increase Debt Ceiling Under Bush—Without Hostage Threats



Speaker John Boehner (R-OH)  reiterated on Sunday that House Republicans would not allow a clean vote to raise the debt limit and ensure the full faith and credit of the United States of America. But while now Congressional Republicans demand everything from the  destruction of the Affordable Care Act to a  constitutional amendment in exchange for allowing the government to pay for what it has already incurred, many of them made no such demands nine years ago when a Republican was in the White House.



Boehner says that Congressional Republicans "are not going to pass a clean debt limit increase" because "it is time to deal with America's problems." But in 2004, he joined with 205 other House Republicans to pass S. 2986, a bill that added $800 billion to the nation's statutory debt ceiling with no strings attached.



In total, Congressional Republican leaders backed five separate debt ceiling increases during Bush's eight years in the White House.



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Romero

Quote With the Republican-controlled House of Representatives engaged in a tense, government-shuttering budgetary standoff against a Democratic president and Senate, the Republican Party is now viewed favorably by 28% of Americans, down from 38% in September. This is the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992.



More than six in 10 Americans (62%) now view the GOP unfavorably, a record high.



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Anonymous

When Democrats control both houses you get deficits. When you have the most fiscally reckless president since WW2 (Obama) you get record recklessness.
QuoteMany leading Democrats in Washington these days like to point to the fact that the federal budget was balanced for part of the time that President Bill Clinton was in office. What they do not mention is that those balanced budgets occurred only when Republicans controlled both houses of Congress.



In fact, according to the historical data published by the Office of Management and Budget in the Obama White House, no Congress in which the Democrats controlled both the House and Senate has balanced the federal budget since fiscal 1969--more than 40 years ago.

More recently, the federal budget was balanced in fiscal years 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001. A Republican-controlled Congress approved the appropriations for each one of those years and Democratic President Bill Clinton signed them. In fiscal years 1994 and 1995, when President Clinton governed with a Democrat-controlled Congress, the federal government ran deficits of $203.2 billion and $163.9 billion respectively.



The Republican majority Congress elected in November 1994 presided over two fiscal years with declining deficits—fiscal 1996 and 1997—before it initially balanced the budget in fiscal 1998. In fiscal 1996 and 1997, the deficits were $107.4 billion and $21.9 billion respectively.

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Romero

QuoteHouse Fails On Debt Deal As Conservative Groups Balk



Conservative tea party-aligned groups shot down House Republicans' ill-starred proposal keep the government open Tuesday, forcing GOP leaders to turn to the Senate to reopen the government and prevent the nation from defaulting on its debt. The Treasury Department has warned that America is in danger of failing to meet its obligations starting Thursday, risking economic calamity.



House leaders had set a 5:40 p.m. rules hearing to move ahead, but canceled it after the Heritage Foundation, Red State and FreedomWorks all slammed the GOP proposal as unacceptable.



"It was hard for them to get the votes anyway, and then when Heritage came out, that killed it," said Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.), who has opposed the House GOP strategy of trying to using government funding and the debt ceiling as leverage to defund Obamacare.



The rejection by the tea party base was a stunning blow to Boehner, who at first tried to head off a damaging showdown in early September, but then embraced the right-wing attempt after members of his caucus rebelled. He stuck with the doomed bid, even while more than two dozen of his moderate members pleaded for him to relent and Republican poll numbers plummeted.



Democrats were flabbergasted by the sudden collapse.



"Who's calling the shots here? Ted Cruz? Heritage Action?" said Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.) "Who knows, but it sure isn't John Boehner. They had a plan and they withdrew the plan right after Heritage Action denounced the plan."



King said he hoped the Senate could act, but noted that Texas Republican Ted Cruz and conservative allies could obstruct the process there.



"This party is going nuts," King said. "So many people I run into who are normal people -- and I hate to use that term -- they just can't understand what's going on. They just think Republicans are crazy. That's it. They see no justification for any of this."



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Romero

The shutdown and default are all finally over! Only until friggin' January, unfortunately. Why the economic crisis every few months? It sure ain't helping capitalism and the American Dream any.



It's incredible to believe so many alleged leaders just wanted to "shut it down", having no idea or even caring about how the American people and economy would certainly suffer.



"It's exactly what we wanted, and we got it. This is about the happiest I've seen members in a long time..."

- Tea Party founder/Republican Michele Bachmann



81 Democrat and moderate Republican senators voted against the shutdown, default, economic disaster and suffering, while 18 Tea Bagger Republicans voted for continuing it. 285 Democrat and moderate Republican representatives voted against this nonsense, while 144 Tea Bagger Republicans voted for it.



President Obama immediately signed the bill. Wanted to weeks ago.



Obamacare is not only going to happen even after failing to repeal it 41 times and ruled constitutional by the right-leaning Supreme Court, it took effect on the very day this ridiculous shutdown started.



Republican and Tea Partier ratings are at all time lows.



It didn't have to be this way. But maybe it's for the best that Americans have gotten this wake up call. We'll see what's next within a few months.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Romero"The shutdown and default are all finally over! Only until friggin' January, unfortunately. Why the economic crisis every few months? It sure ain't helping capitalism and the American Dream any.



It's incredible to believe so many alleged leaders just wanted to "shut it down", having no idea or even caring about how the American people and economy would certainly suffer.

"It's exactly what we wanted, and we got it. This is about the happiest I've seen members in a long time..."

- Tea Party founder/Republican Michele Bachmann



81 Democrat and moderate Republican senators voted against the shutdown, default, economic disaster and suffering, while 18 Tea Bagger Republicans voted for continuing it. 285 Democrat and moderate Republican representatives voted against this nonsense, while 144 Tea Bagger Republicans voted for it.



President Obama immediately signed the bill. Wanted to weeks ago.



Obamacare is not only going to happen even after failing to repeal it 41 times and ruled constitutional by the right-leaning Supreme Court, it took effect on the very day this ridiculous shutdown started.



Republican and Tea Partier ratings are at all time lows.



It didn't have to be this way. But maybe it's for the best that Americans have gotten this wake up call. We'll see what's next within a few months.

And the person that wanted the shutdown more than any other is that inept hero of yours Barack Obama. Was he winning? Well he and fellow scumbag Harry Reid were able to blame Obongo's intransigence on their political opposition, so Dem games worked out. Just boggles the mind a so-called prez refused to negotiate. He is incapable of running a lemonade stand. The Dems should not have picked someone so incapable to be their leader.



OBAMA IS THE WORST PREZ THE USA HAS EVER HAD.

Renee

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"The shutdown and default are all finally over! Only until friggin' January, unfortunately. Why the economic crisis every few months? It sure ain't helping capitalism and the American Dream any.



It's incredible to believe so many alleged leaders just wanted to "shut it down", having no idea or even caring about how the American people and economy would certainly suffer.

"It's exactly what we wanted, and we got it. This is about the happiest I've seen members in a long time..."

- Tea Party founder/Republican Michele Bachmann



81 Democrat and moderate Republican senators voted against the shutdown, default, economic disaster and suffering, while 18 Tea Bagger Republicans voted for continuing it. 285 Democrat and moderate Republican representatives voted against this nonsense, while 144 Tea Bagger Republicans voted for it.



President Obama immediately signed the bill. Wanted to weeks ago.



Obamacare is not only going to happen even after failing to repeal it 41 times and ruled constitutional by the right-leaning Supreme Court, it took effect on the very day this ridiculous shutdown started.



Republican and Tea Partier ratings are at all time lows.



It didn't have to be this way. But maybe it's for the best that Americans have gotten this wake up call. We'll see what's next within a few months.

And the person that wanted the shutdown more than any other is that inept hero of yours Barack Obama. Was he winning? Well he and fellow scumbag Harry Reid were able to blame Obongo's intransigence on their political opposition, so Dem games worked out. Just boggles the mind a so-called prez refused to negotiate. He is incapable of running a lemonade stand. The Dems should not have picked someone so incapable to be their leader.



OBAMA IS THE WORST PREZ THE USA HAS EVER HAD.


Yeah but he is the best far left community organizer we've ever had in the Oval Office.  :lol:
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Odinson

Why can´t the nigger loving liberals move to african jungle... It´s like nigger heaven in there.



Not that I don´t like paying for some useless limping niggers and a bunch of fatherless biracial babies sprung out by walking white diabetes´s aka fat white whales.

Renee

Quote from: "Odinson"Why can´t the nigger loving liberals move to african jungle... It´s like nigger heaven in there.



Not that I don´t like paying for some useless limping niggers and a bunch of fatherless biracial babies sprung out by walking white diabetes´s aka fat white whales.


A better question is; why can't ignorant, racist, little man-boy, assholes like you just shut the fuck up?
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Anonymous

Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Romero"The shutdown and default are all finally over! Only until friggin' January, unfortunately. Why the economic crisis every few months? It sure ain't helping capitalism and the American Dream any.



It's incredible to believe so many alleged leaders just wanted to "shut it down", having no idea or even caring about how the American people and economy would certainly suffer.

"It's exactly what we wanted, and we got it. This is about the happiest I've seen members in a long time..."

- Tea Party founder/Republican Michele Bachmann



81 Democrat and moderate Republican senators voted against the shutdown, default, economic disaster and suffering, while 18 Tea Bagger Republicans voted for continuing it. 285 Democrat and moderate Republican representatives voted against this nonsense, while 144 Tea Bagger Republicans voted for it.



President Obama immediately signed the bill. Wanted to weeks ago.



Obamacare is not only going to happen even after failing to repeal it 41 times and ruled constitutional by the right-leaning Supreme Court, it took effect on the very day this ridiculous shutdown started.



Republican and Tea Partier ratings are at all time lows.



It didn't have to be this way. But maybe it's for the best that Americans have gotten this wake up call. We'll see what's next within a few months.

And the person that wanted the shutdown more than any other is that inept hero of yours Barack Obama. Was he winning? Well he and fellow scumbag Harry Reid were able to blame Obongo's intransigence on their political opposition, so Dem games worked out. Just boggles the mind a so-called prez refused to negotiate. He is incapable of running a lemonade stand. The Dems should not have picked someone so incapable to be their leader.



OBAMA IS THE WORST PREZ THE USA HAS EVER HAD.


Yeah but he is the best far left community organizer we've ever had in the Oval Office.  :lol:

It's funny that Romero feigns concern for people pouring milkshakes for  living because those are exactly the kinda jobs created under Obama's incredibly inept leadership.

Odinson

Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Odinson"Why can´t the nigger loving liberals move to african jungle... It´s like nigger heaven in there.



Not that I don´t like paying for some useless limping niggers and a bunch of fatherless biracial babies sprung out by walking white diabetes´s aka fat white whales.


A better question is; why can't ignorant, racist, little man-boy, assholes like you just shut the fuck up?


How am I ignorant? Are they not over 90% unemployed? Are they not dominating the rape stats? Are they not dominating the STD stats?

Are they not liberals/commies/hippies by default?



Shouting racism in todays athmosphere is the easiest way but that doesn´t solve the problem now does it...



When a fawcett is leaking, do you want to fix it or do you just pay the excess amount of money forever?

Romero

Quote from: "Odinson"How am I ignorant? Are they not over 90% unemployed? Are they not dominating the rape stats? Are they not dominating the STD stats?

Are they not liberals/commies/hippies by default?

Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. And we know you hate black males. So you are indeed ignorant and racist.

Renee

Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
And the person that wanted the shutdown more than any other is that inept hero of yours Barack Obama. Was he winning? Well he and fellow scumbag Harry Reid were able to blame Obongo's intransigence on their political opposition, so Dem games worked out. Just boggles the mind a so-called prez refused to negotiate. He is incapable of running a lemonade stand. The Dems should not have picked someone so incapable to be their leader.



OBAMA IS THE WORST PREZ THE USA HAS EVER HAD.


Yeah but he is the best far left community organizer we've ever had in the Oval Office.  :lol:

It's funny that Romero feigns concern for people pouring milkshakes for a living because those are exactly the kinda jobs created under Obama's incredibly inept leadership.

 

Liberals don't want people to succeed because then they become the enemy. When you start making money and you start to see that your tax burden is increasing with each raise in pay you receive you start to resent the fact that you are being ripped off so that others can sit around and do nothing. For most people with a brain, that's when all that liberal horseshit you are fed in school about leveling the playing field and fairness at the expense of people who succeed goes down the shitter.



Liberals don't want people to make money, they want them to make just enough to survive and keep voting for the handout gang and their bankrupt ideology. Liberals think the pursuit of personal wealth is evil and amoral especially if you don't feel like giving half of it away to those who stick their hands out every chance they get. Romero is an example of exactly that. He thinks if the minimum wage is raised in the US is raised to $12 dollars an hour everything will be A-Okay. Of course it will because it will keep hundreds of thousands of people IN minimum wage jobs. He knows that there are tons of low info liberal public school educated voters out there that think if you can make $12 or $14 dollars an hour at your job at the car wash and then augment it with something like food stamps, why would you look for something better. You will keep surviving at a subsistence level and keep blaming the rich for you predicament and keep voting the liberal ticket.

 

Sorry to go off on a rant but that's the simple truth. That's exactly how those people think and that's exactly how they roll. They want a population that is barely surviving and beholden to the federal government
\"A man\'s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box and the cartridge-box.\"

Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867.


Anonymous

Quote from: "Renee"
Quote from: "Shen Li"
Quote from: "Renee"


Yeah but he is the best far left community organizer we've ever had in the Oval Office.  :lol:

It's funny that Romero feigns concern for people pouring milkshakes for a living because those are exactly the kinda jobs created under Obama's incredibly inept leadership.

 

Liberals don't want people to succeed because then they become the enemy. When you start making money and you start to see that your tax burden is increasing with each raise in pay you receive you start to resent the fact that you are being ripped off so that others can sit around and do nothing. For most people with a brain, that's when all that liberal horseshit you are fed in school about leveling the playing field and fairness at the expense of people who succeed goes down the shitter.



Liberals don't want people to make money, they want them to make just enough to survive and keep voting for the handout gang and their bankrupt ideology. Liberals think the pursuit of personal wealth is evil and amoral especially if you don't feel like giving half of it away to those who stick their hands out every chance they get. Romero is an example of exactly that. He thinks if the minimum wage is raised in the US is raised to $12 dollars an hour everything will be A-Okay. Of course it will because it will keep hundreds of thousands of people IN minimum wage jobs. He knows that there are tons of low info liberal public school educated voters out there that think if you can make $12 or $14 dollars an hour at your job at the car wash and then augment it with something like food stamps, why would you look for something better. You will keep surviving at a subsistence level and keep blaming the rich for you predicament and keep voting the liberal ticket.

 

Sorry to go off on a rant but that's the simple truth. That's exactly how those people think and that's exactly how they roll. They want a population that is barely surviving and beholden to the federal government

The effect of raising minimum wage will be fewer people being hired in entry-level jobs and more going out of business signs placed on little mom and pop shops.

Romero

Quote from: "Renee"Liberals don't want people to succeed because then they become the enemy. When you start making money and you start to see that your tax burden is increasing with each raise in pay you receive you start to resent the fact that you are being ripped off so that others can sit around and do nothing. For most people with a brain, that's when all that liberal horseshit you are fed in school about leveling the playing field and fairness at the expense of people who succeed goes down the shitter.



Liberals don't want people to make money, they want them to make just enough to survive and keep voting for the handout gang and their bankrupt ideology. Liberals think the pursuit of personal wealth is evil and amoral especially if you don't feel like giving half of it away to those who stick their hands out every chance they get. Romero is an example of exactly that. He thinks if the minimum wage is raised in the US is raised to $12 dollars an hour everything will be A-Okay. Of course it will because it will keep hundreds of thousands of people IN minimum wage jobs. He knows that there are tons of low info liberal public school educated voters out there that think if you can make $12 or $14 dollars an hour at your job at the car wash and then augment it with something like food stamps, why would you look for something better. You will keep surviving at a subsistence level and keep blaming the rich for you predicament and keep voting the liberal ticket.

 

Sorry to go off on a rant but that's the simple truth. That's exactly how those people think and that's exactly how they roll. They want a population that is barely surviving and beholden to the federal government

So your argument against raising the minimum wage is liberals don't want people to make money. Classic.


Quote from: "Shen Li"The effect of raising minimum wage will be fewer people being hired in entry-level jobs and more going out of business signs placed on little mom and pop shops.

Unemployment is lower in Canada where the minimum wage is higher. Nobody in their right mind would argue that Canada's minimum wage should be a paltry $7.25/hour.