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[size=200]Creeping Authoritarianism Has Finally Prevailed[/size]

In Hungary, the pandemic was just an excuse.

APRIL 3, 2020

Anne Applebaum

Staff writer at The Atlantic



https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/hungary-coronavirus-just-excuse/609331/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... se/609331/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/hungary-coronavirus-just-excuse/609331/



Viktor Orbán is the prime minister of Hungary. He has been in power since 2010. During that time, he has underinvested in hospitals. Instead, public money has gone to pet projects, many of them related to the sports he enjoys. In his home village, Felcsút, the government built an elaborate soccer stadium with a heated field and 3,814 seats—which, as The New York Times noted, is twice the number of people who live in the village. Meanwhile, the nearby county hospital's emergency ward has long struggled to cope with even an ordinary number of patients. On one evening in October, a visiting Times reporter found two harried doctors on call at midnight, and 30 people waiting for treatment.



During the past decade, Orbán's government has also misdirected European Union money—some meant to encourage regional development in places like Felcsút, some meant specifically for medical development—to friends and party comrades. This kind of corruption, coupled with the Hungarian government's nationalist rhetoric, has famously persuaded many educated people to leave the country, including doctors. Poor salaries in the health service haven't persuaded them to stay. Now, thanks to COVID-19, Hungary faces a looming health crisis, as well as an economic crisis.



Who will Orbán blame? The answer, dear reader, is: you. And me. And anyone inside or outside Hungary reading or distributing material critical of the Hungarian government.



On March 30, the Hungarian Parliament, which is controlled by Orbán's party, Fidesz, voted to cancel all elections, suspend its own ability to legislate, and give the prime minister the right to rule by decree—indefinitely. None of these powers is needed to fight the coronavirus. None of them fixes the existing problems in Hungarian hospitals. All of them will help the Hungarian government push through other measures. Almost immediately, they were used to pass controversial edicts on museum construction and theater management, and to prohibit transgender people from legally changing their sex—issues without the remotest relevance to the pandemic. The government also wants to use its new powers to pass a decree classifying all information about a major Chinese railway investment in the country, the single largest infrastructure investment in Hungarian history. Once again, this has nothing to do with fighting the virus  but it will conveniently keep the details of the business deal, and the names of the businessmen who benefit, out of the public view for 10 years.



Like many others, I tweeted criticism of this de facto coup d'état. The next day, some of those who searched for Anne Applebaum and Hungary received, as one of their top Google results, this message from the Hungarian government's English-language propaganda site, abouthungary.hu: "Coronavirus Protection Act: The importance of saving Hungarian lives is clearly not a priority outside Hungary." Meanwhile, József Szájer, one of the leaders of Hungary's European parliamentary delegation, sent out a letter to foreign colleagues—members of a pan-European alliance of center-right parties with which Fidesz is aligned—accusing them of lacking concern for Hungarian lives. "Please," Szájer wrote, "do not hinder us by unfounded criticism in the midst of our fight!" His use of hinder is extraordinary, for it implies, again, that foreign criticism will somehow harm Hungary's battle against the coronavirus.



Not coincidentally, this is the same kind of language used by Zoltán Kovács, Hungary's serially dishonest press spokesperson—think Kellyanne Conway with facial hair—when he speaks about Hungary's small but still vocal political opposition, as well as critiques from abroad. "We're in a state of emergency, by the way," he sneered in a posted comment. "Lives are at stake." For that reason, he wrote, the "gross distortion" of the "facts" about the situation is "biased and irresponsible." State-controlled media have gone further, openly labeling the government's opponents as proponents of the virus.



Why does this matter? Because although Hungary is a small country, it is one whose creeping authoritarianism is widely admired. In early February, I wrote about the rapturous reception that Orbán had received at a conference of self-declared nationalist and far-right intellectuals—American, Israeli, and European—in Rome. I fully expect his tactics to be imitated: Anybody who disagrees with my emergency laws is trying to spread illness is something we will hear again. So is Whichever mistakes we made in the past, we are not responsible for them now. Indeed, I suspect that we will hear that sentiment again and again. In the United States, President Donald Trump has already blamed an extraordinary array of actors, from state governors to Barack Obama to China, for mistakes made by himself and his administration.



Outside Hungary, other parliaments and assemblies have found ways to keep working. It's true that Britain's Parliament is in early recess; members departed for Easter six days earlier than they otherwise would have. But they have a designated date of return, and they are already setting up systems to conduct some business online. The European Parliament, meanwhile, is physically unable to meet: Many of its members—my husband is one, from Poland—literally have no way to get to the parliamentary chamber in Brussels, since planes have stopped flying and borders have closed. Nevertheless, members managed to debate and even to vote last week, using a bespoke online system. A variety of other parliaments, from the Danish Folketing to the German Bundestag, have set up special procedures to continue operations.



Few lawmakers, at least so far, expect their government's emergency measures to be abused. If, by contrast, his European counterparts have little confidence in the Hungarian prime minister, that is his own fault. His government has had an "emergency" anti-migration decree in place since 2015, though anything resembling an immigration emergency has long passed.



Yet criticism, both domestic and foreign, can have a positive effect, even in Budapest. Alongside measures about museums, theaters, and sex changes, Orbán also issued a decree that would remove powers from local governments, many of which are led by opposition politicians. This was not only an egregious power grab; it may well have complicated the pandemic response in municipalities. In the wake of that edict, outrage was so loud and so sustained that the government withdrew the measure a mere 16 hours later.



So ignore the Hungarian-government propagandists. Also ignore anyone else who tells you that their policy is above criticism, that politics don't apply in a pandemic, or that accountability and transparency need to be suspended for some indefinite period of time. The opposite is true: All of the decisions being made right now, whether medical or economic, deserve widespread scrutiny and debate. As Francis Fukuyama has written, there is no evidence that authoritarians are better than others at controlling disease; several democracies—South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, and perhaps Germany—look like they have control of their coronavirus outbreaks. Nor does any evidence show that secrecy produces better outcomes; quite the contrary.



There is evidence that effective bureaucracy, good information and good data will help us survive. If we are not only to get through this global crisis but come out on the other side better prepared, we also need to keep track of which decisions were made and when, and to remember who was responsible for them: in the United States and the United Kingdom, in China and Taiwan, in Germany and France, in South Africa and Brazil—and in Hungary too.
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Anonymous

I don't take op eds from The Atlantic seriously.

@realAzhyaAryola

Quote from: "seoulbro"I don't take op eds from The Atlantic seriously.


That is fair but I like to listen to and read opinions of interest to me. It's the only way to learn. If the writer is grossly inaccurate then we call them out for it.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"
Quote from: "seoulbro"I don't take op eds from The Atlantic seriously.


That is fair but I like to listen to and read opinions of interest to me. It's the only way to learn. If the writer is grossly inaccurate then we call them out for it.

And that is fair too. :thumbup:

Anonymous

Quote from: "seoulbro"I don't take op eds from The Atlantic seriously.

It's about as objective as CNN.

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Quote from: "Herman"
Quote from: "seoulbro"I don't take op eds from The Atlantic seriously.

It's about as objective as CNN.


It does not mean that the topic does not exist.
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[size=200]Death numbers surge in Philippines[/size]

PHILIPPINES

Saturday, 04 Apr 2020

6:43 PM MYT



https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/04/04/death-numbers-surge-in-philippines">https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regiona ... hilippines">https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/04/04/death-numbers-surge-in-philippines



MANILA,: The Philippine Health Ministry on Saturday (April 4) reported 76 additional coronavirus infections and eight new deaths. And the Philippine government has prepared mass quarantine facilities for patients with the coronavirus, officials announced.



In a bulletin, the health ministry said a total of 144 people have died in the Philippines while 3,094 were infected, the majority of whom were reported in the past four weeks.



The Department of Health said the "sudden spike ... is attributed to the late reporting of previous deaths."



The department also reported more new confirmed cases of Covid-19 on Saturday, bringing the country's total to 3,094, as more tests are completed with eight laboratories now able to process specimens.



"It is clear that the number of cases of Covid-19 is not yet going down," Beverly Ho, a spokesperson for the health department, told a daily briefing.



"We must get used to a different kind of normal while no vaccine has yet been discovered against Covid-19 and the Filipinos have not build up immunity to Covid-19," she added.



Ho reminded the public that the best weapon against the virus was preventive measures such as "good habits that hopefully become second nature" to all Filipinos.



Amid the rising cases, the government is readying 12 quarantine facilities that could house thousands of sick patients across metro Manila and the island of Luzon, said Vince Dizon, a member of the inter-agency task force on Covid-19.



"We are doing this to stop the spread of the coronavirus in our communities," he said. "With the help of the Department of Health and local government units, sick patients will be brought to the facilities so they won't spread the virus."



"We all know that because of the number of people getting sick, our hospitals are already getting full," he added.



"With these facilities, we hope to stop the people from overwhelming our hospitals so they can prioritize the critical and severe patients."



Dizon said the facilities will be housed in existing structures, such as government convention centres, sports stadiums and trade halls. They will have separate cubicles, air-conditioning and even wi-fi internet.



On Thursday, the government ordered the mandatory wearing of face masks for people on the main island of Luzon, which has been on lockdown since March 16.



Luzon, where the capital of Manila is located, is home to more than half of the Philippines' population of an estimated 100 million.



The government said authorities were still determining if the restrictions will be lifted or expanded. - dpa/Asian News Network/Reuters
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Anonymous

Shit, that aint good. I thought they were on the downside of the curve.

caskur

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This could finally bump Imelda off. She is in her 90s now.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

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This could finally bump Imelda off. She is in her 90s now.


 ac_toofunny I never knew her. I was too young to remember her. I will not miss her but I know there are many who will.
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caskur

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Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"

This could finally bump Imelda off. She is in her 90s now.


 ac_toofunny I never knew her. I was too young to remember her. I will not miss her but I know there are many who will.


There is a documentary on her on Netflix...



You should watch it, it's great. It's called, The Kingmaker..



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"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

@realAzhyaAryola

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Quote from: "caskur"
Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"

This could finally bump Imelda off. She is in her 90s now.


 ac_toofunny I never knew her. I was too young to remember her. I will not miss her but I know there are many who will.


There is a documentary on her on Netflix...



You should watch it, it's great. It's called, The Kingmaker..



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Thanks, caskur, but my interest in it is zero. It will take a lot to make me watch it. I won't promise that I will watch it but I'll try hard.
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caskur

It's brilliant... I watched it 3 times....I would even watch it again.



She was really loved by Gaddafi, and that Cuban leader, what's his name and she was loved by Nixon... all the leaders loved her.



I can't handle the fact they won't bury or cremate Marcos... He is stuck in glass case. That is pitiful.
"I think having land and not ruining it is the most beautiful art that anybody could ever want."
- Andy Warhol

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What should be done to the homeless? In New York City, the homeless have set up shop in some of the cars. Cuomo said this is disgusting and disrespectful to the frontliners who have to go to work and need to ride the train.
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Anonymous

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Quote from: "@realAzhyaAryola"What should be done to the homeless? In New York City, the homeless have set up shop in some of the cars. Cuomo said this is disgusting and disrespectful to the frontliners who have to go to work and need to ride the train.

If I saw some homeless bum like Joe sleeping in my truck, he would be going underneath it.