Sweden resisted a lockdown, and its capital Stockholm is expected to reach ‘herd immunity’ in weeks

[cc]

Just noticed they reported for today  .. highest new cases ever for them .. 751

Did not report new deaths or total cases yet



Look at the gray bars under "Daily New Cases" ... last 3 days show a consistent and significant rise, so the idea it was slowing there was a false alarm



https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/">https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/sweden/">https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/



Cases keep going up for a few days then down for a few days  .. but the overall  trend is getting progressively higher and higher each time

[Anonymous]

Just noticed they reported for today  .. highest new cases ever for them .. 751

Did not report new deaths or total cases yet



Look at the gray bars under "Daily New Cases" ... last 3 days show a consistent and significant rise, so the idea it was slowing there was a false alarm



https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/">https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/sweden/">https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/



Cases keeps going up for a few days then down for a few days  .. but the overall  trend is getting progressively higher and higher each time

Even in Saskatchewan, where we have flattened the curve, we are adding new cases everyday. More are recovering than catching it.

[cc]

That's good to hear



Contrary to previous report, not so for Sweden

[Anonymous]

It's unclear which strategy will ultimately prove most effective, and even experts in Sweden warn it's too early to draw conclusions. But given the huge economic damage caused by strict lockdowns, the Swedish approach has drawn considerable interest around the world.



Part of that approach relies on having access to one of the world's best-functioning health-care systems. At no stage did Sweden see a real shortage of medical equipment or hospital capacity, and tents set up as emergency care facilities around the country have mostly remained empty.

[cc]

relies on having access to one of the world's best-functioning health-care systems

Yet, a very high death rate per case



Something does not wash here



Their approach to the virus is not the only thing that is different about data on Sweden



So, what's really going on? Are they simply and deliberately allowing (in effect using) the virus to kill off all the old folks?



It sure as hell looks that way



Edit: I just checked and noticed Switzerland has almost as high a death rate .. Anyone know what's going on there also?



Checking further, UK has even higher rate and Belgium is astronomical



Spain and Italy are bad also .. but that would be expected the way they got overwhelmed



WTF is going on with these top o the heap Euro countries? The more I look, the worse it gets



What is needed is figuring the death rate per case (not given per se in the chart) .. and I'm too tired to do the math for exact ratios .. but it's easy to spot that most of the EU is doing horribly



Canada not so bad - but this virus is a very  deadly killer  .. much more so than we were lead to believe  .. The closer I look, the less I like ... I'll do some math in the morning



Deaths per a specific # of cases tells us how deadly it is

[Anonymous]

The only way we could get the exact death rate is if we tested everybody..



And even then some countries that declare the cause of death COVID-19 because a person who has a heart attack has it is not accurate either.

[cc]

True .. still we have approximations .. and what one country does does not indicate what another does

I know reporting in not exact and can lag

The discrepancy in US was addressed and corrected and .. I have no reason to believe most other countries are miscalculating

Also, the virus has directly caused things like heart attacks etc in some people .. no one dies of "virus" per se ...  thus, all die of "effects" on them of virus whether heart, lungs etc etc .. i.e. the virus killed them

Certainly most infected and died of specific things brought on by the virus in effect died from the virus



Going by "today" reported -- I did some calcs



  ............ Cases ...1 Case /# of People.... Fatal in # of Cases .... Active Cases

CANADA    43,551 .. .. 1 in 867  people  ..............    1 in 19 cases .......... 22,700

SWEDEN  17,567 .....1 in 580 people   ..............    1 in 8 cases ......  ......       14,800

US ....... 903,775 ..1 in 365 people   ............. 1 in 17 cases  ....... ...      777,000

GERMANY 154,000 ..1 in 538 people  .............  1 in 17 cases   ...... .....      123,000    

UK........ 143,464 .. 1 in 464 people  .............  1 in 15  cases ......  .....       80,600



BC ....... ....1,824 .. 1 in 2,780 people .........  1 in 19.4 cases ........ ....      638    

ALBERTA .....4,017 .. 1 in 1,100 people ......... 1 in 56 cases   ......   ......        2,548



My Conclusions from calcs:

1. Death rates everywhere are far higher that originally projected ... there had been talk of 1 / 100 .. even in decimals of 1  .. not happening

2. Sweden has very high death rate per case ... whereas others are relatively similar

3. Based on others, Canada is doing well with death rate and very well with contagion rate (despite being one of the 1st to get flights in from China and was early to get cases. Sweden was some later in, one of the last in fact

4. So far in Alberta,  a high rate cases / person,  but a very high rate of of survival and high active case rate

5. BC, Canada Average fatality rate, but  a low active case rate

[Anonymous]

If a person is asymptomatic in the US, but dies of something their cause of death is listed as COVID-19 because they have the virus..



I don't trust American death totals from the coronavirus.

[cc]

OK. I'm well aware of that and been following it. I understand they have corrected the reporting - and the corrections are  reflected in current figures. NY was the prime offender



Fatalities in Canada & US now match other and match counties except Sweden



Anyhow, I'm just trying to get some perspective to better understand what is happening mainly here in Canada and especially western canada



Number of COVID-19 patients in B.C. hospitals dips below 100 for first time since March



Some pretty good news here

https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-coronavirus-update-april-24/?utm_source=NewsletterBc&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020">https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-c ... paign=2020">https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-coronavirus-update-april-24/?utm_source=NewsletterBc&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020

Graph looks really good in all regards .. mind you, that is with a lot of sheltering

[Anonymous]

OK. I'm well aware of that and been following it. I understand they have corrected the reporting - and the corrections are  reflected in current figures. NY was the prime offender



Fatalities in Canada & US now match other and match counties except Sweden



Anyhow, I'm just trying to get some perspective to better understand what is happening mainly here in Canada and especially western canada



Number of COVID-19 patients in B.C. hospitals dips below 100 for first time since March



Some pretty good news here

https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-coronavirus-update-april-24/?utm_source=NewsletterBc&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020">https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-c ... paign=2020">https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-coronavirus-update-april-24/?utm_source=NewsletterBc&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020

Graph looks really good in all regards .. mind you, that is with a lot of sheltering

So, just stay locked down forever collecting five hundred bucks a week and the curve stays flattened. If that was the case I would sell my farm and move abroad. But, who would buy my farm.

[Berry Sweet]

You should grow herb, make products and sell them.  You could have Hermans house special, herb infused barrel wash.  Im sure you'd make a killing!  Sell your products online ha

[cc]

OK. I'm well aware of that and been following it. I understand they have corrected the reporting - and the corrections are  reflected in current figures. NY was the prime offender



Fatalities in Canada & US now match other and match counties except Sweden



Anyhow, I'm just trying to get some perspective to better understand what is happening mainly here in Canada and especially western canada



Number of COVID-19 patients in B.C. hospitals dips below 100 for first time since March



Some pretty good news here

https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-coronavirus-update-april-24/?utm_source=NewsletterBc&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020">https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-c ... paign=2020">https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-coronavirus-update-april-24/?utm_source=NewsletterBc&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020

Graph looks really good in all regards .. mind you, that is with a lot of sheltering

So, just stay locked down forever collecting five hundred bucks a week and the curve stays flattened. If that was the case I would sell my farm and move abroad. But, who would buy my farm.

I'm not advocating that. I am open to solid ideas that can work.



So far I have not heard any that will work. For sure we have to get things going, somehow



I've heard lots of theories and babble, but but so far I've seen no workable ideas

[Berry Sweet]

Things will eventually get going at snail pace.  I hope people learn from this and choose better ways of living from here on.

[Anonymous]

OK. I'm well aware of that and been following it. I understand they have corrected the reporting - and the corrections are  reflected in current figures. NY was the prime offender



Fatalities in Canada & US now match other and match counties except Sweden



Anyhow, I'm just trying to get some perspective to better understand what is happening mainly here in Canada and especially western canada



Number of COVID-19 patients in B.C. hospitals dips below 100 for first time since March



Some pretty good news here

https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-coronavirus-update-april-24/?utm_source=NewsletterBc&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020">https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-c ... paign=2020">https://globalnews.ca/news/6866046/bc-coronavirus-update-april-24/?utm_source=NewsletterBc&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2020

Graph looks really good in all regards .. mind you, that is with a lot of sheltering

So, just stay locked down forever collecting five hundred bucks a week and the curve stays flattened. If that was the case I would sell my farm and move abroad. But, who would buy my farm.

I'm not advocating that. I am open to solid ideas that can work.



So far I have not heard any that will work. For sure we have to get things going, somehow



I've heard lots of theories and babble, but but so far I've seen no workable ideas

We had ideas that worked from Taiwan and South Korea, and Singapore too, but they didn't shut their border..



Temperature taking, masks worn in public, Taiwan's e-fence, and contact tracing..



The last two may violate privacy laws in North America, but if the choice is that or poverty I know what I would choose.

Things will eventually get going at snail pace.

But, global deaths from famine will speed up at lightning pace.

[Berry Sweet]

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