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Food for Thought - Theory Based on History + on Indications Virus May Be Weakening

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Food for thought - with some past examples and logic applied



Past Viruses have all been programmed to alter their structures to spread - and not to kill which impedes their spread



Current one is not going away in quantity, but appears to be  weakening in intensity .. severity of symptoms and death rate are showing strong signs of lessening worldwide.



Don't have it on paper yet, but I have listened to a lot of greatly experienced Docs & Disease Specialist Scientists on TV & Radio discussing reasons for this likelihood from 2 perspectives, Numbers and Past History (and theory)



Don't have a lot of written data on it with regard to current virus, but if higher survival rates continue, we will soon see plenty.

We all can keep eyes open for articles of support as time goes on



Numbers:

Death rate and overall severity of symptoms are decreasing in many places all around the globe despite increasing numbers of infection.



Of course hands on experience with it can make health care people wiser about it and no doubt partially account for this decrease via better treatment.



History & Solid Theory based on past viruses & other spreadable illnesses:


THE CRUX - This element may be vital. Viruses by nature "want to spread". Killing people defeats that purpose as it does not help it to spread



In the past it has been common to see the deadlier ones weaken over time. Many scientists are certain it is for that reason (that it is programmed  to shift itself to spread, not kill)



It is "theory" but backed by scientists with past great experience with other killer viruses (and also non-virus spreading illnesses)



If current trends continue, we will hear lots about this scientifically accepted  element of most all past viruses (and other spreadable illnesses) over centuries - in fact, prolly why  they just went a way
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=364939 time=1591411579 user_id=88
Food for thought - with some past examples and logic applied



Past Viruses have all been programmed to alter their structures to spread - and not to kill which impedes their spread



Current one is not going away in quantity, but appears to be  weakening in intensity .. severity of symptoms and death rate are showing strong signs of lessening worldwide.



Don't have it on paper yet, but I have listened to a lot of greatly experienced Docs & Disease Specialist Scientists on TV & Radio discussing reasons for this likelihood from 2 perspectives, Numbers and Past History (and theory)



Don't have a lot of written data on it with regard to current virus, but if higher survival rates continue, we will soon see plenty.

We all can keep eyes open for articles of support as time goes on



Numbers:

Death rate and overall severity of symptoms are decreasing in many places all around the globe despite increasing numbers of infection.



Of course hands on experience with it can make health care people wiser about it and no doubt partially account for this decrease via better treatment.



History & Solid Theory based on past viruses & other spreadable illnesses:


THE CRUX - This element may be vital. Viruses by nature "want to spread". Killing people defeats that purpose as it does not help it to spread



In the past it has been common to see the deadlier ones weaken over time. Many scientists are certain it is for that reason (that it is programmed  to shift itself to spread, not kill)



It is "theory" but backed by scientists with past great experience with other killer viruses (and also non-virus spreading illnesses)



If current trends continue, we will hear lots about this scientifically accepted  element of most all past viruses (and other spreadable illnesses) over centuries - in fact, prolly why  they just went a way

Warm weather in the Northern hemisphere may have something to do with it.

Anonymous


Anonymous

It was never as lethal as some would have us believe. The vast majority of people that catch it make a full recovery like I did.

cc

Quote from: Herman post_id=364952 time=1591428230 user_id=1689
Warm weather in the Northern hemisphere may have something to do with it.

Frequency is not decreasing, only severity. Frequency may decrease with weather, but so far no data supports it yet



Prolly will take another month of data to get a look at the future
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Gaon

That's enough. I want to go back to work with all the overtime I had before.
The Russian Rock It

Vancouver

Quote from: Gaon post_id=365038 time=1591479060 user_id=3170
That's enough. I want to go back to work with all the overtime I had before.

Here in BC the covid-19 is not an issue. You'll be back to work in no time. It's been less than 3 months since you were laid off. Time pass by fast. Only 1 new case in the last 24hrs. We just had 50,000 to 100,000 people gathered for a massive protest yesterday  but I'm fairly sure none of them were sick.


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Time is malleable

Anonymous

There were between fifty and one hundred thousand people at a protest?

 :shock:

I am sure at least one of them had the virus, even if they're asymptomatic.

cc

QuoteWe just had 50,000 to 100,000 people gathered for a massive protest yesterday but I'm fairly sure none of them were sick.

No way to know this early how many will get infected from it.



No way to know how things will go as we open up



Because its so new, everything up to now has been guesswork. Same for future from here on .. best we can do is guessimate and hope for the best.



It's an illness that one gets from being around others. For sure BC's current very low numbers will not hold upon opening things up.

 How much they climb is a guess right now. Let's hope for the best
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Vancouver

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=365041 time=1591480290 user_id=3254
There were between fifty and one hundred thousand people at a protest?

 :shock:

I am sure at least one of them had the virus, even if they're asymptomatic.


My bad. It was 5,000 to 10,000 people at Canada Place in downtown Vancouver. Were there not any protest in Alberta? I believe this virus is weakening as it pass on person to person. The virus is probably only at 75% strength now.

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Time is malleable

Anonymous

Quote from: Vancouver post_id=365044 time=1591481263 user_id=65
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=365041 time=1591480290 user_id=3254
There were between fifty and one hundred thousand people at a protest?

 :shock:

I am sure at least one of them had the virus, even if they're asymptomatic.


My bad. It was 5,000 to 10,000 people at Canada Place in downtown Vancouver. Were there not any protest in Alberta? I believe this virus is weakening as it pass on person to person. The virus is probably only at 75% strength now.

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That's still a big crowd..



There was one in Calgary last week that had 2000 people in attendance..



It was peaceful.

Anonymous

Quote from: Vancouver post_id=365044 time=1591481263 user_id=65
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=365041 time=1591480290 user_id=3254
There were between fifty and one hundred thousand people at a protest?

 :shock:

I am sure at least one of them had the virus, even if they're asymptomatic.


My bad. It was 5,000 to 10,000 people at Canada Place in downtown Vancouver. Were there not any protest in Alberta? I believe this virus is weakening as it pass on person to person. The virus is probably only at 75% strength now.

https://i.redd.it/mrqz2go6q6351.jpg">

What the hell do they want? The cop that killed Floyd has been charged. The other officers have been charged. It's up to the courts now.

Anonymous

Quote from: Vancouver post_id=365044 time=1591481263 user_id=65
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=365041 time=1591480290 user_id=3254
There were between fifty and one hundred thousand people at a protest?

 :shock:

I am sure at least one of them had the virus, even if they're asymptomatic.


My bad. It was 5,000 to 10,000 people at Canada Place in downtown Vancouver. Were there not any protest in Alberta? I believe this virus is weakening as it pass on person to person. The virus is probably only at 75% strength now.

https://i.redd.it/mrqz2go6q6351.jpg">

They made it out to be a plague. I am glad to see cooler heads are starting to prevail.

Anonymous


Anonymous

You can't go to a concert, but tens of thousands of people at some bullshit demonstration is fine.



Fauci 'Very Concerned' That Protests Will Spark Coronavirus Surge



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Dr. Anthony Fauci on Friday said he is "very concerned" that mass protests held over the police-involved death of George Floyd will spark a coronavirus resurgence.



"It is the perfect set up for the spread of the virus in the sense of creating some blips which might turn into some surges," Fauci said in an interview on WTOP, a Washington, D.C. radio station. "There certainly is a risk."



Fauci, the top epidemiologist on the White House coronavirus task force, said that close congregation at the protests, along with the "screaming and demonstrating" that goes along with it, increases the "likelihood that you might have situations where you would force the spread of infection, and that's really of concern."