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The long term cost of lock downs

Started by Anonymous, June 13, 2020, 02:51:31 PM

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Despite millions of jobs available, April's employment report has grim news

Employment levels had been slowly increasing as businesses began to reopen from the worst months of the pandemic, with 536,000 new jobs added in February and 770,000 added in March. April's anemic figure came as a surprise to many Wall Street analysts, who predicted that the rate of jobs added would continue to increase.



There seems, however, to be one major roadblock to continued job growth: Companies are reporting that they are simply not able to find anyone to fill certain jobs for a variety of reasons, including the relative attractiveness of expanded federal unemployment benefits, and the inability of some parents to resume full time work because schools in many parts of the country have not fully reopened for full-time in-person learning. Bloomberg reports that the number of available jobs is reaching record levels, in spite of the high unemployment numbers.



This tension is causing some states to react. The Republican governors of South Carolina and Montana announced Thursday that they are ending enhanced federal unemployment benefits for all residents in their states beginning next month, saying that the benefits are unnecessarily discouraging people from returning to work and causing labor shortages in critical industries.



Montana Gov. Greg Gianforte (R) said, in explaining the move, that "Incentives matter, and the vast expansion of federal unemployment benefits is now doing more harm than good. We need to incentivize Montanans to reenter the workforce."



Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) also announced Thursday that Florida residents will be required to show proof that they are looking for work in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits beginning on May 29. Florida's requirement for weekly "work search" reports had previously been suspended by a DeSantis executive order, but DeSantis indicated that he would not renew the order when it expires later this month.

Anonymous

Professor Explains Flaw in Many Models Used for COVID-19 Lockdown Policies



Economics professor Doug Allen wanted to know why so many early models used to create COVID-19 lockdown policies turned out to be highly incorrect. What he found was that a great majority were based on false assumptions and "tended to over-estimate the benefits and under-estimate the costs." He found it troubling that policies such as total lockdowns were based on those models.



In a paper he published in April, in which he compiled his findings based on a review of over 80 papers on the effects of lockdowns around the world, Allen concluded that lockdowns may be one of "the greatest peacetime policy failures in Canada's history."



He says many of the studies early in the pandemic assumed that human behaviour changes only as a result of state-mandated intervention, such as the closing of schools and non-essential businesses, mask and social distancing orders, and restrictions on private social gatherings.



Furthermore, "The limited effectiveness of lockdowns explains why, after one year, the unconditional cumulative deaths per million, and the pattern of daily deaths per million, is not negatively correlated with the stringency of lockdown across countries," writes Allen. In other words, in his assessment, heavy lockdowns do not meaningfully reduce the number of deaths in the areas where they are implemented, when compared to areas where lockdowns were not implemented or as stringent.



He says that politicians often take credit for having achieved a reduction in case numbers through their lockdown measures.



Allen laments that media for the most part have carried only one side of the debate on COVID-19 restrictions and haven't examined the other side. Adding to the concern, he says, is that views contrary to the official government response are often pulled from social media platforms.



He says he has heard that even his own published study has been censored by some social media sites.



"In some sense these are private platforms. They can do what they want. But on the other hand, I feel kind of sad that we live in the kind of a world where posing opposing opinions is either dismissed, ignored, or ... name-called, [and] in some ways cancelled," Allen said.

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Anonymous

Study: In U.S., Lockdowns Added 2 Pounds per Month



Americans gained nearly 2 pounds per month under COVID-19 shelter-in-place orders in 2020, according to a new study published Monday in JAMA Network Open.



Those who kept the same lockdown habits could have gained 20 pounds during the past year, the study authors said.



"We know that weight gain is a public health problem in the U.S. already, so anything making it worse is definitely concerning, and shelter-in-place orders are so ubiquitous that the sheer number of people affected by this makes it extremely relevant," Gregory Marcus, MD, the senior author and a cardiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, told The New York Times.



Marcus and colleagues analyzed more than 7,000 weight measurements from 269 people in 37 states who used Bluetooth-connected scales from Feb. 1 through June 1, 2020. Among the participants, about 52% were women, 77% were white, and they had an average age of 52.



The research team found that participants had a steady weight gain of more than half a pound every 10 days. That equals about 1.5 to 2 pounds per month.



Many of the participants were losing weight before the shelter-in-place orders went into effect, Marcus told TheTimes. The lockdown effects could be even greater for those who weren't losing weight before.


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Anonymous

The Left exploited masks make half the American population feel less than human. In fact, Dave said he believes they used masks to inflict "a psychological condition on us to make us afraid of each other, and turn on each other."



So many people on the liberal side see the mask as a sign that you're part of 'the party,' and when you're not wearing a mask, you're a problem.

Anonymous

The lockdowns implemented to curb the transmission of COVID-19 in the United States and across the globe have not only been a "heinous abuse of power," but they have also failed to protect the elderly and vulnerable, according to former White House COVID-19 adviser Dr. Scott Atlas.

Anonymous

COVID pandemic eroded Canadians' trust in politicians, science and even their neighbours, poll finds



OTTAWA – The COVID-19 pandemic has eroded Canadians trust in their governments, public health officials, science and even neighbours, according to a new poll commissioned by Postmedia.



When people were asked if the pandemic had permanently eroded their trust in provincial or federal governments more than 60 per cent said it had eroded their trust, either a little or a lot, in both the federal government (63%) or their provincial government (62%).



The poll also looked at trust erosion for Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada's chief public health officer, which has eroded either a little or a lot among 46 per cent of Canadians.



But provincial public health institutions, led by the chief medical officers, also took a hit with almost half of Canadians (49%) saying they had lost trust in them.


https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/covid-pandemic-eroded-canadians-trust-in-politicians-science-and-even-their-neighbours-poll-finds/wcm/cf525c32-7f9e-4e31-ba77-e1967ee3f2d0">https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics ... 967ee3f2d0">https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/covid-pandemic-eroded-canadians-trust-in-politicians-science-and-even-their-neighbours-poll-finds/wcm/cf525c32-7f9e-4e31-ba77-e1967ee3f2d0

Anonymous

A record fifty-five tickets were issued by Alberta's peace and police officers to those failing to wear a mask where required in the last week.

Anonymous

Pretty extreme.



Australian Court Upholds Ban on Most International Travel

An Australian court has rejected a challenge to the federal government's draconian power to prevent most citizens from leaving the country so they don't bring COVID-19 home.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-05-31/australian-court-upholds-ban-on-most-international-travel#:~:text=CANBERRA%2C%20Australia%20%28AP%29%20%E2%80%94,t%20bring%20COVID%2D19%20home">https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... D19%20home">https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-05-31/australian-court-upholds-ban-on-most-international-travel#:~:text=CANBERRA%2C%20Australia%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94,t%20bring%20COVID%2D19%20home.



Australia is alone among developed democracies in preventing its citizens and permanent residents from leaving the country except in "exceptional circumstances" where they can demonstrate a "compelling reason."



Most Australians have been stranded in their island nation since March 2020 under a government emergency order made under the powerful Biosecurity Act.

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Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=412386 time=1622529672 user_id=1689
Pretty extreme.



Australian Court Upholds Ban on Most International Travel

An Australian court has rejected a challenge to the federal government's draconian power to prevent most citizens from leaving the country so they don't bring COVID-19 home.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-05-31/australian-court-upholds-ban-on-most-international-travel#:~:text=CANBERRA%2C%20Australia%20%28AP%29%20%E2%80%94,t%20bring%20COVID%2D19%20home">https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... D19%20home">https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-05-31/australian-court-upholds-ban-on-most-international-travel#:~:text=CANBERRA%2C%20Australia%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94,t%20bring%20COVID%2D19%20home.



Australia is alone among developed democracies in preventing its citizens and permanent residents from leaving the country except in "exceptional circumstances" where they can demonstrate a "compelling reason."



Most Australians have been stranded in their island nation since March 2020 under a government emergency order made under the powerful Biosecurity Act.

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cc

Why does my country allow people to fly places and return bringing god knows what with them ... while I can almost see my daughter's city from my window  .. yet cannot drive across the border to see her??



Something is not right in this picture ... why are flights in and out allowed??
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=412399 time=1622560016 user_id=88
Why does my country allow people to fly places and return bringing god knows what with them ... while I can almost see my daughter's city from my window  .. yet cannot drive across the border to see her??



Something is not right in this picture ... why are flights in and out allowed??

Restricting outbound movement.......wow.

Anonymous

Among the adolescent girls aged 12-17 years, the average weekly visits to the emergency department for suspected suicide attempts from February 2021 to March 2021 was 50.6% higher than the same period the year before, according to the CDC analysis. Boys were far less likely to show suicidal tendencies during the same time period; the number of emergency department visits for suicide attempts rose by 3.7% for males.