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CHINA STRONGLY IMPLIES MUSLIM INTERNMENT CAMPS WILL NEVER GO AWAY

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Islamophobia, Islamophobia. Genocide, Genocide. Ethnic Cleansing, Ethnic Cleansing. Oh wait, that only works on us white folks. Chinks don't give a fuck.





https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/12/china-muslim-internment-camps/?utm_medium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/12/chin ... dium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/12/china-muslim-internment-camps/?utm_medium=email

Chinese authorities claimed the internment camps in which they reportedly imprison, torture and brainwash religious minorities, particularly Uighur Muslims, would disappear over time once "society does not need" them.

The statement implies, given China's policy of sinicization and efforts to wipe out Islam from the country, the camps will only disappear when there are no more Muslims with which to fill them.

Chinese authorities claim reports of torture and brainwashing are lies and prefer to characterize the internment camps as "vocational training centers."

Chinese authorities implied Tuesday the internment camps for Uighur Muslims and other minorities would not disappear until Uighurs forsake Islam or leave China.



The governor of Xinjiang, Shohrat Zakir, and other regional authorities said the camps, which they characterized as vocational training centers, would gradually disappear in the event that "society does not need" them, The Associated Press reported.



Chinese authorities began the camps, however, as part of Chinese President Xi Jinping's campaign of sinicization — an effort to bring all religions and cultural expressions in China in line with the Chinese Communist Party's vision of Chinese culture. To that end, camp authorities reportedly subject Uighur Muslims to inhumane conditions, torture and brainwashing to turn them away from Islam and enforce supreme loyalty to the state.



Regional authorities' claim the camps would disappear when they are no longer needed implies, in light of the camps' use and other efforts to suppress Islam, Christianity and other religions throughout the country, that Chinese authorities would only do away with the camps once the religions and cultures they believe to be contrary to "sinicization" are purged.



Chinese authorities' other efforts to snuff out religious expression in the country bear out their intentions. The Chinese government has kidnapped and detained several Christian pastors and shut down their churches for operating apart from Communist Party regulation and registration. Children under the age of 18 are banned from attending religious services and functions in certain regions. Chinese authorities in Xinjiang forbade fasting during Ramadan, the owning and distribution of Korans, wearing beards and public prayer.



Chinese authorities also initiated a program in which Uighur families were forced to accept ethnic Han government agents as new family members. The government agents move in with the families to spy on them and report on their every activity, especially expressions of religion and culture that are deemed out of line with sinicization.



"The government is trying to destroy that last protected space in which Uighurs have been able to maintain their identity," said Joanne Smith Finley, an ethnographer at England's Newcastle University, according to the AP.



Zakir disputed claims that Uighur Muslim detainees, or "trainees" as government officials call them, are subjected to mistreatment and torture. Zakir claimed reports of inhumane conditions and brainwashing of the reported over 1 million detainees are "pure fiction" and that camp authorities "fully ensure freedom of religion" and provide halal food to Muslim inmates.



He likened the internment camps to "boarding schools," saying inmates could request time off to visit their families.



Ex-detainees's testimonies dispute Zakir's claims.



Mihrigul Tursun, a Uighur Muslim and three-time detainee of an internment camp, recounted forced medical procedures, forced medication without any information as to what the medication was, electro-shock torture and cramped unsanitary living conditions.



Over 270 scholars echoed Tursun's claims and opposition to the camps in November 2018.



"Reports from eyewitnesses have noted malnourishment and severe psychological distress among the detainees, and some report detainees being forcibly given psychiatric drugs. In some cases, shoelaces and belts are confiscated, due to the prevalence of self-harm and suicide. Those who do not fully participate in political reeducation are often subjected to beatings, solitary confinement, and forms of religious and psychological violation," the scholars' joint statement read.



"There have been numerous reports of deaths in the centers, particularly among the elderly and infirm, but also of younger people who were in good health when they were taken. While there are frequent reports of more people entering the camps, there are very few reports of those being released," it adds.



Sam Brownback, U.S. ambassador-at-large for international religious freedom, also denounced China's treatment of Uighur Muslims and called Friday for an investigation of the camps. Brownback characterized China's oppression of the Uighurs as "a deliberate attempt by Beijing to redefine and control these Muslim minority groups, [their] identity, culture and faith."



Zakir, however, argued that China's severe security measures and the use of internment camps is justified by the fact that there have not been any violent, Islamic extremist attacks in the region for two years.



"We cannot relax one bit," Zakir said, confirming the camps will remain for the foreseeable future.


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Anonymous

Quote from: "Fashionista"Some very draconian measures.

 :shock:

Damn right. And the media calls Israel an apartheid state even though they have guaranteed seats in their parliament for Arabs.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Herman"Islamophobia, Islamophobia. Genocide, Genocide. Ethnic Cleansing, Ethnic Cleansing. Oh wait, that only works on us white folks. Chinks don't give a fuck.





https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/12/china-muslim-internment-camps/?utm_medium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/12/chin ... dium=email">https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/12/china-muslim-internment-camps/?utm_medium=email

Chinese authorities claimed the internment camps in which they reportedly imprison, torture and brainwash religious minorities, particularly Uighur Muslims, would disappear over time once "society does not need" them.

The statement implies, given China's policy of sinicization and efforts to wipe out Islam from the country, the camps will only disappear when there are no more Muslims with which to fill them.

Chinese authorities claim reports of torture and brainwashing are lies and prefer to characterize the internment camps as "vocational training centers."

Chinese authorities implied Tuesday the internment camps for Uighur Muslims and other minorities would not disappear until Uighurs forsake Islam or leave China.



The governor of Xinjiang, Shohrat Zakir, and other regional authorities said the camps, which they characterized as vocational training centers, would gradually disappear in the event that "society does not need" them, The Associated Press reported.



Chinese authorities began the camps, however, as part of Chinese President Xi Jinping's campaign of sinicization — an effort to bring all religions and cultural expressions in China in line with the Chinese Communist Party's vision of Chinese culture. To that end, camp authorities reportedly subject Uighur Muslims to inhumane conditions, torture and brainwashing to turn them away from Islam and enforce supreme loyalty to the state.



Regional authorities' claim the camps would disappear when they are no longer needed implies, in light of the camps' use and other efforts to suppress Islam, Christianity and other religions throughout the country, that Chinese authorities would only do away with the camps once the religions and cultures they believe to be contrary to "sinicization" are purged.



Chinese authorities' other efforts to snuff out religious expression in the country bear out their intentions. The Chinese government has kidnapped and detained several Christian pastors and shut down their churches for operating apart from Communist Party regulation and registration. Children under the age of 18 are banned from attending religious services and functions in certain regions. Chinese authorities in Xinjiang forbade fasting during Ramadan, the owning and distribution of Korans, wearing beards and public prayer.



Chinese authorities also initiated a program in which Uighur families were forced to accept ethnic Han government agents as new family members. The government agents move in with the families to spy on them and report on their every activity, especially expressions of religion and culture that are deemed out of line with sinicization.



"The government is trying to destroy that last protected space in which Uighurs have been able to maintain their identity," said Joanne Smith Finley, an ethnographer at England's Newcastle University, according to the AP.



Zakir disputed claims that Uighur Muslim detainees, or "trainees" as government officials call them, are subjected to mistreatment and torture. Zakir claimed reports of inhumane conditions and brainwashing of the reported over 1 million detainees are "pure fiction" and that camp authorities "fully ensure freedom of religion" and provide halal food to Muslim inmates.



He likened the internment camps to "boarding schools," saying inmates could request time off to visit their families.



Ex-detainees's testimonies dispute Zakir's claims.



Mihrigul Tursun, a Uighur Muslim and three-time detainee of an internment camp, recounted forced medical procedures, forced medication without any information as to what the medication was, electro-shock torture and cramped unsanitary living conditions.



Over 270 scholars echoed Tursun's claims and opposition to the camps in November 2018.



"Reports from eyewitnesses have noted malnourishment and severe psychological distress among the detainees, and some report detainees being forcibly given psychiatric drugs. In some cases, shoelaces and belts are confiscated, due to the prevalence of self-harm and suicide. Those who do not fully participate in political reeducation are often subjected to beatings, solitary confinement, and forms of religious and psychological violation," the scholars' joint statement read.



"There have been numerous reports of deaths in the centers, particularly among the elderly and infirm, but also of younger people who were in good health when they were taken. While there are frequent reports of more people entering the camps, there are very few reports of those being released," it adds.



Sam Brownback, U.S. ambassador-at-large for international religious freedom, also denounced China's treatment of Uighur Muslims and called Friday for an investigation of the camps. Brownback characterized China's oppression of the Uighurs as "a deliberate attempt by Beijing to redefine and control these Muslim minority groups, [their] identity, culture and faith."



Zakir, however, argued that China's severe security measures and the use of internment camps is justified by the fact that there have not been any violent, Islamic extremist attacks in the region for two years.



"We cannot relax one bit," Zakir said, confirming the camps will remain for the foreseeable future.

China can teach us a lot. :thumbup:

Gaon

China doesn't play games. If they have an Islamic problem they fix it permanently.
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Gaon

Inside Chinese camps thought to be detaining a million Muslim Uighurs



Around 10 percent of the Uighur population of Xinjiang is locked up, according to the U.S. government and human rights organizations. The Chinese Communist Party maintains these centers are a crucial part of its effort to counter terror, extremism and separatism.



International rights groups charge that Chinese authorities are actually engaging in mass arbitrary detention, torture and mistreatment of Uighurs in Xinjiang. Human Rights Watch, a nonprofit group based in New York, has alleged "rampant abuses," including torture and unfair trials of the population.



Gay McDougall, a member of the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, accused China last year of turning Xinjiang into "something resembling a massive internment camp that is shrouded in secrecy, a sort of no-rights zone."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/inside-chinese-camps-thought-detain-million-muslim-uighurs-n1062321">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/insi ... s-n1062321">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/inside-chinese-camps-thought-detain-million-muslim-uighurs-n1062321
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Gaon

I saw a documentary about  the plight of Uighur Muslims in Western China. It's one of the only places in the world where Muslims are being persecuted instead of doing the persecuting.
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Gaon

Quote from: "Gaon"I saw a documentary about  the plight of Uighur Muslims in Western China. It's one of the only places in the world where Muslims are being persecuted instead of doing the persecuting.

It is estimated there are 1200 internment camps for Uighurs in the province the Chines cal Xinjiang.
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Anonymous

This is blatant ethnic cleansing.



China forces birth control on Muslims to suppress population

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/06/29/china-forces-birth-control-on-muslims-to-suppress-population-2/">https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/06/29/ ... ulation-2/">https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/06/29/china-forces-birth-control-on-muslims-to-suppress-population-2/

The Chinese government is taking draconian measures to slash birth rates among Uighurs and other minorities as part of a sweeping campaign to curb its Muslim population, even as it encourages some of the country's Han majority to have more children.



After Gulnar Omirzakh, a Chinese-born Kazakh, had her third child, the government ordered her to get an IUD inserted. Two years later, in January 2018, four officials in military camouflage came knocking at her door anyway. They gave Omirzakh, the penniless wife of a detained vegetable trader, three days to pay a $2,685 fine for having more than two children.