Edmonton Yanks Anti-Honour Killing Ads

[Anonymous]

I never said anything like that and I never said your Muslim friends are not real Muslims. I simply said Muslims follow Islam, which would be pretty obvious.

You wrote, If they don't follow Islam then they wouldn't be Muslim. Because my friends do not follow the misogyny, homophobia and intolerance of non-believers that is in Quran they are not REAL Muslims in your eyes.



At least you acknowledge the Quran is a hate book.

[cc]

If they don't follow Islam then they wouldn't be Muslim

.....I simply said Muslims follow Islam, which would be pretty obvious.

"Some" follow only what they choose to follow of islam. Whether they are islamic, or not, as a result is not for you or I to decide.



allah will decide, eh?

[Romero]

You wrote, If they don't follow Islam then they wouldn't be Muslim. Because my friends do not follow the misogyny, homophobia and intolerance of non-believers that is in Quran they are not REAL Muslims in your eyes.



At least you acknowledge the Quran is a hate book.

The definition of Muslim is one who follows Islam. Saying a Muslim doesn't follow Islam is like saying a Christian doesn't follow Christianity.



I never said your Muslim friends aren't real Muslims. You're the one who called them "nominal" Muslims. I doubt they would consider themselves nominal.



I never said the Quran is a hate book.

[cc]

Of course not. And, your saying it has ZERO meaning. You have never seen one let alone read it .... and never will in order to maintain your  hokey "ignorance is bliss" status



You know less about islam than my dog ... then, to be fair, he ate a lot of one of my a Krannies ... prolly digested several verses



I guess it was the smell of my bacon strip bookmark that started him on it

[Anonymous]

You wrote, If they don't follow Islam then they wouldn't be Muslim. Because my friends do not follow the misogyny, homophobia and intolerance of non-believers that is in Quran they are not REAL Muslims in your eyes.



At least you acknowledge the Quran is a hate book.

The definition of Muslim is one who follows Islam. Saying a Muslim doesn't follow Islam is like saying a Christian doesn't follow Christianity.



I never said your Muslim friends aren't real Muslims. You're the one who called them "nominal" Muslims. I doubt they would consider themselves nominal.



I never said the Quran is a hate book.

Actually, some of my friends do in fact call themselves non-observant Muslims. Do you have a problem with that too or is are they not Muslim enough for you because they don't follow verses like this;

"If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way. If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 4:15-16)



You are making the case though that the Quomic book/Hadith are hate literature.

[Anonymous]

Of course not. You have never seen one let alone read it .... and never will in order to maintain your  hokey "ignorance is bliss" status



You know less about islam than my dog ... then, to be fair, he ate a lot of one of my a Krannies ... prolly digested several verses



I guess it was the smell of my bacon strip bookmark that started him on it

Romero says if you don't follow the hatred of the Quran/Hadith you just aren't Muslim enough for him. Too bad for Rushdie and Fatah.

[Romero]

Romero says if you don't follow the hatred of the Quran/Hadith you just aren't Muslim enough for him. Too bad for Rushdie and Fatah.

I never said that.

Actually, some of my friends do in fact call themselves non-observant Muslims. Do you have a problem with that too or is are they not Muslim enough for you because they don't follow verses like this;

"If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way. If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 4:15-16)



You are making the case though that the Quomic book/Hadith are hate literature.

I never said your Muslim friends aren't Muslim enough. I said Muslims follow Islam and the Quran.



Don't your Muslim friends follow Islam, read the Quran and believe in Allah?

[cc]

And what her friends do or don't do are now your business???  just like you actually thought what our friend believes or does not believe was your business ... and all the time you know the square root of fuck all about the ideology (ignorance is bliss) . hmmm



pathetically transparent ploys to avoid addressing the vileness of the cruel supremacist ideology  called islam and its Satan ...



I mean  allah .... the devil made me type that

[Romero]

And what her friends do or don't do are now your business. hmmm

I never said they're my business. Shen Li brought them up. I'm just asking a few questions as we're having a discussion.

[cc]

lol ... to continue avoiding addressing the meat of the issue ... the vileness of the cruel supremacist ideology called islam



and its books of raw hate, violence, cruelty etc. etc.



You won't address that ever

[Romero]

just like you actually thought what our friend believes or does not believe was your business ... and all the time you know the square root of fuck all about the ideology (ignorance is bliss) . hmmm

Who's "our friend"? I don't know who you're talking about.

[cc]

Now you infer  our friend as your friend. .. .fkkkkk



You ask who? WTF? It's you who keeps bringing up our friend FFS ... just to make me look tolerant I guess

[Romero]

Now you infer  our friend as your friend. .. .fkkkkk



You ask who? WTF? It's you who keeps bringing up our friend FFS ... just to make me look tolerant I guess

I never claimed your friend was my friend, especially since I have no idea who you're talking about.



I'm simply asking who "our friend"(your words, not mine) is.

[Anonymous]

Edmonton city council is more concerned about offending a few extremists than misogyny and murder of women in the name of Allah. I wonder of they would take the same action about ads about extremists who shoot abortion doctors. :?

EDMONTON  - City of Edmonton bus ads depicting Muslim women as victims — and suggesting families of the faith practise honour killings — have been yanked by Edmonton Transit officials.



The ad, paid for by the American Freedom Defense Initiative and Stop Islam of America, asks Muslim women: "Is your family threatening you? Is there a Fatwa on Your Head?"



A smaller line above the questions and below a photo of seven young women, some wearing hijabs, says: "Muslim Girls Honor (sp.) Killed by Their Families."



Complaints about the ads — there were a total of five, each worth $500 — prompted Coun. Amarjeet Sohi to order officials to take down the signs, immediately.



Sohi said he was "deeply disappointed" when he first found out about the signs "that don't belong on city property."



"These ad targeted one particular group," said Sohi.



"Honour killings is a very serious concern in every community and we need to speak up against it, but targeting one particular group, and singling out one particular group, does not help resolve it.



"The organizations behind these ads are known for anti-Islamic rhetoric. They always look for opportunities to demean and degrade people of Islamic faith."



Cheryl Oxford, a city spokeswoman, says workers took down the five bus ads Tuesday morning "immediately" after receiving a "handful of complaints" on Monday.



"(The complaints) warranted us to pull the ads and request further review by the Advertising Standards Canada," said Oxford.



The city signed a contract with Pattison Outdoor, which is responsible for approving and selling advertising on city buses and LRT, added Oxford.



Scott Gibb, an Edmonton sales director with Pattison Outdoor, says each ad needs the identities of "those who are paying for the ads," along with having a "point of contact" for people identified on the ad.



A "process" in how ads are reviewed is underway, said Gibb, adding that the U.S.-based groups paid $500 for each sign. That review will also determine whether or not a refund will be made, he said.



"In light of this incident we are going to re-evaluate," said Gibb.



Zeb Qureshi, a 32-year-old transit user, was relieved after hearing city staff pulled the ads. He was one of those who filed a complaint with the city. "I was really surprised to see the ads here," said Qureshi, adding such hateful anti-Islamic messages are usually found in the United States.



"I was shocked — that was my initial reaction. It's nice to know city officials have your back and that they are willing to take down ads that are hateful."



Sohi says "mistakes were made" when the "unacceptable" ads were first posted.



"I would speak out against any discriminatory message against any particular group," said Sohi.



"Targeting one particular group is unacceptable."

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I have to disagree with you Shen Li..



These ads are deliberately provocative..



You may be right about the Quran having many verses that incite hatred..



That is not enough reason to antagonize that religion and use public property to do it though..



I am a Christian and I would like to see more dialogue between Muslims and non Muslims.

[Romero]

Now you infer  our friend as your friend. .. .fkkkkk



You ask who? WTF? It's you who keeps bringing up our friend FFS ... just to make me look tolerant I guess

I never claimed your friend was my friend, especially since I have no idea who you're talking about.



I'm simply asking who "our friend"(your words, not mine) is.

Oh, are you talking about your Islamic employee? I didn't know he was also your friend.



I never said anything about what he believes or doesn't believe. I just knew he was Islamic because you said he was Islamic.