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How a 1990s book predicted 2020 - "The Revolt of the Elites and the Betrayal of Democracy "

Started by cc, July 04, 2020, 03:32:07 PM

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Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=369910 time=1593958450 user_id=1676
What do you mean? Came late?

Like it says in the op, these mass protests are unique. The affluent are the protesters/rioters and lower working classes bear the brunt of their rampant destruction.

Anonymous


cc

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=369942 time=1593979768 user_id=2015
BLM should be called working people's lives don't matter.

Eggs Actly


QuoteThe affluent are the protesters/rioters

And it goes further than the protesters/rioters in the streets  being largely affluent



They are supported morally and financially by so many filthy rich affluent and even large companies are behind it all
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=369949 time=1593982030 user_id=88
Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=369942 time=1593979768 user_id=2015
BLM should be called working people's lives don't matter.

Eggs Actly


QuoteThe affluent are the protesters/rioters

And it goes further than the protesters/rioters in the streets  being largely affluent



They are supported morally and financially by so many filthy rich affluent and even large companies are behind it all

Rich people protesting against the middle and lower classes.  ac_wot

cc

In effect, that is what has been going on in the streets



Yup. Hoping to take over and shut up (cancel) The "Basket of Deplorables"
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

Black Lives marches in DC yesterday



Spoiled entitled white kids by the 100s - See if you can spot a trodden-on black



https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1279439533608546306?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279439533608546306%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/12 ... pers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1279439533608546306?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279439533608546306%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=369964 time=1593989909 user_id=88
Black Lives marches in DC yesterday



Spoiled entitled white kids by the 100s - See if you can spot a trodden-on black



https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1279439533608546306?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279439533608546306%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/12 ... pers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1279439533608546306?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279439533608546306%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F

As I have said, white libtards are behind BLM. Racial injustice is a smoke screen.

cc

It's tear down what is / society .. and its not pretty .. the result will be disaster



George who?  :confused1:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=369988 time=1593996516 user_id=88
It's tear down what is / society .. and its not pretty .. the result will be disaster



George who?  :confused1:

Yes, it will.

Anonymous

Quote from: "Shen Li" post_id=369992 time=1593996817 user_id=56
Quote from: cc post_id=369988 time=1593996516 user_id=88
It's tear down what is / society .. and its not pretty .. the result will be disaster



George who?  :confused1:

Yes, it will.

How have you been stranger?

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=369964 time=1593989909 user_id=88
Black Lives marches in DC yesterday



Spoiled entitled white kids by the 100s - See if you can spot a trodden-on black



https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1279439533608546306?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279439533608546306%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/12 ... pers.us%2F">https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1279439533608546306?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279439533608546306%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weaselzippers.us%2F

Can't blacks see this is not about them.

Blazor

Quote from: cc post_id=369988 time=1593996516 user_id=88
It's tear down what is / society .. and its not pretty .. the result will be disaster



George who?  :confused1:


....Soros!



You know, one of the guys me and Scouse been trying to tell people about lol.
I've come here to chew bubble gum, and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

cc

You are creditable. Conspiracy whaco nazi only takes from credibility



Soros is no secret to anyone.



While he was not the George I was referring to, most everyone know Soros is a player in a much larger problem  that involves millions of  hard left .. and several other major players
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=370123 time=1594080624 user_id=88
You are creditable. Conspiracy whaco nazi only takes from credibility



Soros is no secret to anyone.

I cannot argue with that.

Thiel

Quote from: cc post_id=369795 time=1593891140 user_id=88
BY THE SAME AUTHOR

Why the rich are revolting



Revolt of the Elites comprises 13 essays on America's "democratic malaise" — he liked that word — divided into three parts, the "intensification of social divisions" in America, the decline of public discourse and finally the spiritual core of the country's crisis, headlined "The Dark Night of the Soul".



Throughout the book runs Lasch's moral core, his support for the average man, something which inspired his hostility to the dominant ideologies of Left and Right. He strongly opposed economic inequality because it was corrupting; highly unequal societies tend to bring with them graft, extremism, violence and outside interference, eliminating Republican virtue. Lasch lamented that in America, the top tenth owned more than half the country's wealth, a warning that now seems as quaint as newspapers in the placid 1950s worried about Teddy Boys. The decline of pensions and savings, and the rise of what we now call zero-contract hours, would lead to the collapse of the middle class and with it the decline of the nation.



Lasch also saw that the eroding of a common culture, values and standards, which was the major legacy of 60s cultural radicalism, ended up creating a gulf between social classes. If there were no common values to hold people together, what was to stop the rich and powerful trampling over the rest of society, cloaking their self-interest in furious self-righteousness?



And so it has come to pass, with the rise of woke capital, an amoral business model in which CEOs make thousands of times more than their lowest earners, all the while distracting attention with support for therapeutic but increasingly extreme politics.



It was Lasch who saw more clearly than anyone that the New Left had a symbiotic relationship with the culture of modern corporate capitalism — emphasising choice, therapy, self-actualisation, narcissism and the rejection of limits, not just physical but financial and moral.





Lasch also saw meritocracy as a sham, or at least "a parody of democracy", because neither social nor geographic mobility were adequate substitutes for real social justice. "Social mobility does not undermine the influence of elites," he wrote: "if anything, it helps to solidify their influence by supporting the illusion that it rests solely on merit. It merely strengthens the likelihood that elites will exercise power irresponsibly, precisely because they recognise so few obligations to their predecessors of to the communities they profess to lead."



.. Although not a Marxist, Lasch saw politics through the prism of class, arguing that elites of both Left and Right had the same economic interests. "Even when they disagree about everything else," he argued, they "have a common stake in suppressing a politics of class."





... Indeed, the fashionable social causes of the 21st century not only ignore class, but actually further increase hostility to the poor. Evidence suggests that thinking about "white privilege" reduces sympathy for people struggling in poverty, while the association of bigotry with the non-college educated has normalised snobbery to an almost pre-modern degree. People once might have sneered at less educated people, but they would have done so privately at least; now comedy routinely makes the less educated and less geographically connected its punchline.



"The culture wars that have convulsed America since the sixties are best understood as a form of class warfare," he wrote: "in which an enlightened elite (as it thinks of itself) seeks not so much to impose its values on the majority (a majority perceived as incorrigibly racist, sexist, provincial, and xenophobic), much less to persuade the majority by means of rational public debate."



....  This weekend, Michael Gove cited Lasch as one of the thinkers who foresaw the failures of meritocracy, the great divide between the city and the town, and the mutual alienation it would bring. A quarter of a century after his prophetic book, we're all living in Lasch's world now.

It is probably a book that would be hard to put down once you pick it up. The author appears to be a socialist, so I would have to hold my nose a little.
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