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The Lack of a Populist Political Right in North America

Started by Anonymous, October 18, 2020, 12:21:13 PM

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Quote from: kiebers post_id=387643 time=1603153904 user_id=193
He is not going to lose seniors. The seniors know that the left is not going to fix things and the best chance is with Trump. It seems the, left sponsored, polls have all of y'all Canadians convinced. All we can do is wait and see. Gonna go vote in the morning at a drive thru voting location.

Only about 150,000 votes in battleground states made Trump president in 2016. He can't afford to lose of those votes.

Frood

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=387649 time=1603155643 user_id=114
Quote from: kiebers post_id=387643 time=1603153904 user_id=193
He is not going to lose seniors. The seniors know that the left is not going to fix things and the best chance is with Trump. It seems the, left sponsored, polls have all of y'all Canadians convinced. All we can do is wait and see. Gonna go vote in the morning at a drive thru voting location.

Only about 150,000 votes in battleground states made Trump president in 2016. He can't afford to lose of those votes.


I think he's gained even more. So many moderates and independents are disgusted with the bs of the democrat party.



Trump will win with a slightly bigger margin than 2016.... not huge, but a bit better.



Then we'll have months of court challenges, where Roberts will felate the democrats while Barrett's vote will negate Robert's...
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=387658 time=1603158092 user_id=1676
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=387649 time=1603155643 user_id=114
Quote from: kiebers post_id=387643 time=1603153904 user_id=193
He is not going to lose seniors. The seniors know that the left is not going to fix things and the best chance is with Trump. It seems the, left sponsored, polls have all of y'all Canadians convinced. All we can do is wait and see. Gonna go vote in the morning at a drive thru voting location.

Only about 150,000 votes in battleground states made Trump president in 2016. He can't afford to lose of those votes.


I think he's gained even more. So many moderates and independents are disgusted with the bs of the democrat party.



Trump will win with a slightly bigger margin than 2016.... not huge, but a bit better.



Then we'll have months of court challenges, where Roberts will felate the democrats while Barrett's vote will negate Robert's...

The Democrats are not offering a real alternative platform.

kiebers

Drive thru voting is the bomb...LOL

Pulled in with maybe 3 cars ahead of me. Never came to a complete stop till I got in the drive thru. It was easy and I can see where there may be a lot more of this in the future. For some reason the Repubs are against it but I see no problem. Lots of people voting that didn't before.


QuoteTexas leads the country in early voting numbers with over 4 million ballots cast
I've learned that if someone asks you a really stupid question and you reply by telling them what time it is, they'll leave you alone

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=387669 time=1603159052 user_id=114
Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=387658 time=1603158092 user_id=1676
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=387649 time=1603155643 user_id=114
Quote from: kiebers post_id=387643 time=1603153904 user_id=193
He is not going to lose seniors. The seniors know that the left is not going to fix things and the best chance is with Trump. It seems the, left sponsored, polls have all of y'all Canadians convinced. All we can do is wait and see. Gonna go vote in the morning at a drive thru voting location.

Only about 150,000 votes in battleground states made Trump president in 2016. He can't afford to lose of those votes.


I think he's gained even more. So many moderates and independents are disgusted with the bs of the democrat party.



Trump will win with a slightly bigger margin than 2016.... not huge, but a bit better.



Then we'll have months of court challenges, where Roberts will felate the democrats while Barrett's vote will negate Robert's...

The Democrats are not offering a real alternative platform.

The mainstream GOP's plan is screw working people.

Anonymous

Jim Crow Joe wants more illegals/criminals. It's bad policy anytime, but especially in a pandemic.



Biden to reverse many of Trump's immigration policies if elected

Biden and Trump differ drastically on their approaches to immigration

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-trumps-immigration-policies-elected">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- ... es-elected">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-trumps-immigration-policies-elected

Democratic nominee Joe Biden will reverse a number of President Trump's policies on immigration if elected to the White House -- something that supporters believe will lead to a more humane approach, but that officials at the border and in the White House are warning will lead to chaos.



While the issue has not been as central to the 2020 race as it was in 2016, the two candidates differ significantly on how to handle both legal and illegal immigration, with Biden promising to halt or reverse many of Trump's policies.



On Thursday, the Trump administration marked nearly 400 miles of border wall built at the southern border since 2017, but it's something Biden would stop.



"There will not be another foot of wall constructed under my administration," Biden has promised.



It's not the only thing Biden would stop. He has also promised to place a 100 day moratorium on deportation, significantly increase the refugee cap, and scrap a number of policies the administration has put in place to stop the flow of migrants.



Particularly, Biden has pledged to end the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP), which keeps migrants in Mexico as their hearings play out. Known as the "Remain-in-Mexico" policy, opponents have claimed it puts migrants in danger, but Trump officials say it has been key in ending "catch-and-release" by which migrants were released into the U.S. instead.



Border officials warn that ending such policies, including the 100 day moratorium on deportations, could lead to a surge across the border.



. White House advisor Stephen Miller has warned of "nationwide catch-and-release" if Biden is elected, and has promised that a second term of Trump will take his current policies to the next level.



In an interview with NBC News, Miller outlined four major priorities for a second Trump term: increasing pressure on sanctuary cities, limiting asylum claims, expanding travel restrictions from countries deemed to be a national security risk, and new limits of work visas.



Biden's campaign meanwhile has taken aim at what it describes as Trump's "anti-immigrant agenda."

Anonymous

What happens now to the nationalist/populist movement? I am reluctant supporter of it, as I still believe immigration is beneficial and I believe smaller government is best. Big spending and low immigration are cornerstones of the nationalist movement. However, compared to the globalist green alternative, it is the superior option.



Herman, IHJ and other supporters of big government nationalist, what are your thoughts? Where does your movement go post Trump?

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=389646 time=1604859068 user_id=114
What happens now to the nationalist/populist movement? I am reluctant supporter of it, as I still believe immigration is beneficial and I believe smaller government is best. Big spending and low immigration are cornerstones of the nationalist movement. However, compared to the globalist green alternative, it is the superior option.



Herman, IHJ and other supporters of big government nationalist, what are your thoughts? Where does your movement go post Trump?

First of all, I hate the Republicans. They are are a war mongering , open borders, America last, sellout the working class party just like the democrats. If the GOP goes back to electing globalist romney/bush/maccain scumbags to lead the movement, they are finished. Those types can join the dems and gang up on us blue collar deplorables. Working class people will stay home like they did before Trump took the GOP out of the hands of globalist elites and gave it to working people.

Anonymous

Quote from: "iron horse jockey" post_id=389654 time=1604861213 user_id=2015
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=389646 time=1604859068 user_id=114
What happens now to the nationalist/populist movement? I am reluctant supporter of it, as I still believe immigration is beneficial and I believe smaller government is best. Big spending and low immigration are cornerstones of the nationalist movement. However, compared to the globalist green alternative, it is the superior option.



Herman, IHJ and other supporters of big government nationalist, what are your thoughts? Where does your movement go post Trump?

First of all, I hate the Republicans. They are are a war mongering , open borders, America last, sellout the working class party just like the democrats. If the GOP goes back to electing globalist romney/bush/maccain scumbags to lead the movement, they are finished. Those types can join the dems and gang up on us blue collar deplorables. Working class people will stay home like they did before Trump took the GOP out of the hands of globalist elites and gave it to working people.

There is another wing of the GOP, and that is the Rand Paul libertarian wing.

cc

While right-minded, unfortunately it is small and generally ineffectual





Back to previous from a "war" perspective, there is no difference between the old guards of both parties



Hell, we also were also right there for Afghan on the ground (long after it had been established that nothing we did could help one iota) ... & Bosnia, Kosovo etc. from the air.



I'm very ashamed of my own country's Govts, and especially so for bombing on behalf of Bosnia & Kosovo ... The horror and shame of the 72 nights of bombing for the latter I felt every one of those days while it went on and on killing and destroying  .. and it is still heavily  ingrained in my mind .. "Nice" Canada  took part in pure evil
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=389658 time=1604862081 user_id=88
While right-minded, unfortunately it is small and ineffectual





Back to previous from a "war" perspective, there is no difference between the old guards of both parties



Hell, we also were also right there for Afghan on the ground (long after it had been established that nothing we did could help one iota) & Bosnia, Kosovo etc. from the air.



I'm very ashamed of my own country, and especially so for bombing on behalf of Bosnia & Kosovo ... The horror and shame of the 72 nights of bombing for the latter I felt every one of those days .. and it is still heavily  ingrained in my mind .. we took part in pure evil

I agree, both US parties are globalist war mongering parties. Joe Biden has never seen a war he did not want the US to get involved in. It took a nationalist to bring peace. Now the US has gone back to the future of war under this globalist scumbag Biden.

cc

Yes. War and assisting China to become more powerful
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=389658 time=1604862081 user_id=88
While right-minded, unfortunately it is small and generally ineffectual





Back to previous from a "war" perspective, there is no difference between the old guards of both parties



Hell, we also were also right there for Afghan on the ground (long after it had been established that nothing we did could help one iota) ... & Bosnia, Kosovo etc. from the air.



I'm very ashamed of my own country's Govts, and especially so for bombing on behalf of Bosnia & Kosovo ... The horror and shame of the 72 nights of bombing for the latter I felt every one of those days .. and it is still heavily  ingrained in my mind .. we took part in pure evil

We libertarians are very active, but we are small in numbers. We know that.



I know you agree with a lot of the nationalist/populist platform. But, you have to admit Trump was not a fiscal conservative. I think you are a bit uncomfortable with profligate spending. I could be wrong, but in my opinion, this is where you disagree with socialist leaning blue collar nationalists like IHJ.

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=389661 time=1604863368 user_id=114
Quote from: cc post_id=389658 time=1604862081 user_id=88
While right-minded, unfortunately it is small and generally ineffectual





Back to previous from a "war" perspective, there is no difference between the old guards of both parties



Hell, we also were also right there for Afghan on the ground (long after it had been established that nothing we did could help one iota) ... & Bosnia, Kosovo etc. from the air.



I'm very ashamed of my own country's Govts, and especially so for bombing on behalf of Bosnia & Kosovo ... The horror and shame of the 72 nights of bombing for the latter I felt every one of those days .. and it is still heavily  ingrained in my mind .. we took part in pure evil

We libertarians are very active, but we are small in numbers. We know that.



I know you agree with a lot of the nationalist/populist platform. But, you have to admit Trump was not a fiscal conservative. I think you are a bit uncomfortable with profligate spending. I could be wrong, but in my opinion, this is where you disagree with socialist leaning blue collar nationalists like IHJ.

You talk about socialism like it's a bad thing. Do you enjoy your health care in Ontario? You can thank a real socialist, Tommy Douglas for that.

cc

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=389661 time=1604863368 user_id=114
Quote from: cc post_id=389658 time=1604862081 user_id=88
While right-minded, unfortunately it is small and generally ineffectual





Back to previous from a "war" perspective, there is no difference between the old guards of both parties



Hell, we also were also right there for Afghan on the ground (long after it had been established that nothing we did could help one iota) ... & Bosnia, Kosovo etc. from the air.



I'm very ashamed of my own country's Govts, and especially so for bombing on behalf of Bosnia & Kosovo ... The horror and shame of the 72 nights of bombing for the latter I felt every one of those days .. and it is still heavily  ingrained in my mind .. we took part in pure evil

We libertarians are very active, but we are small in numbers. We know that.



I know you agree with a lot of the nationalist/populist platform. But, you have to admit Trump was not a fiscal conservative. I think you are a bit uncomfortable with profligate spending. I could be wrong, but in my opinion, this is where you disagree with socialist leaning blue collar nationalists like IHJ.

Yes. If I read it right, you have me pegged very well. I believe in minimal Govt along with the spending it incurs  .. especially nationally



I was of the feeling that T was spending to rebuild what 0 let decay (military, infrastructure, border).. and once things were back to where he knew they needed to be, would be carefull with the $ .. and in fact have greatly increased business and jobs contribute to righting debt
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

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