Federal plan to increase hydrogen use

[Anonymous]

The federal government has introduced a plan to greatly increase the use of hydrogen as a low-carbon fuel to help meet Canada's climate targets.



Hydrogen is considered a likely way to decarbonize industries that are hard to electrify, such as heavy transport or machinery.



It burns cleanly and can be produced using wind and solar power, so-called green hydrogen. It can also be made by stripping carbon from fossil fuels such as natural gas — after which the carbon is pumped underground — referred to as "blue" hydrogen.



The plan, released Wednesday, stretches out to 2050. It proposes that over the next five years regional hubs be created across the country in areas where hydrogen fits local needs or expertise in the fuel already exists.



The Edmonton area has access to abundant natural gas, successful facilities that store carbon underground and pipelines to move both the fuel and waste gas.



Ports across the country need lots of transportation fuel and could serve as hydrogen export terminals.



Transportation corridors from Montreal and Windsor to Detroit would have a high demand for fuel for both manufacturing and moving goods.



The strategy is to be funded by $1.5 billion announced last week as part of the government's climate change strategy.



Some environmental groups criticized the plan's provision for creating hydrogen from natural gas.



Wednesday's document provided few spending details.



It says long-term research funding is needed in all aspects of hydrogen technology. Reliable infrastructure, including refuelling stations, supply and distribution systems, and storage facilities for both hydrogen and carbon dioxide, will also need support, the report says.

[Anonymous]

Since the feds insist on playing musical chairs with fuels and electricity, hydrogen, particularly blue hydrogen makes sense. Blue hydrogen utilizes Canada's abundant natural gas reserves instead of imported wind and solar panels that use limited global quantities of rare earth metals.



From Sun News Media



Province pleased with federal hydrogen strategy



Alberta's government is welcoming the federal government's new hydrogen strategy.



Federal Natural Resources Minister Seamus O'Regan introduced the long-awaited plan Wednesday in an effort to cement Canada as a global supplier of the zero-emission fuel, help hit its goal of netzero emissions by 2050 and create up to 350,000 new jobs.



The federal document has few spending details, but is focused on spurring investment through policies like the expected Clean Fuel Standard. The strategy will be funded by $1.5 billion from the previously- announced Low-carbon and Zero-emissions Fuel Fund.



It also embraces blue hydrogen, which is produced from natural gas through carbon capture and storage technology, as the favourite for large-scale, low-cost production to "meet demand for many decades."



Alberta has set its sights set on exporting globally by 2040 as part of its natural gas strategy, and had input on the federal plan.



The province's natural gas and electricity associate minister Dale Nally said in a statement the the federal plan aligns closely with Alberta's plan, which is still in the works and set to be released in the spring.



"We very much support today's announcement as a positive step toward a hydrogen economy that can help both the province and nation," said Nally.



But environmentalist groups and some critics have called on governments to focus their efforts on green hydrogen, which is produced from renewable sources and has no emissions.



The federal report says blue hydrogen "will dominate production until more renewable sources can be built and cost reduction makes the overall energy transition to renewables gain momentum."

[Anonymous]

Everything Justin Trudeau has done has meant jobs sacrificed, higher cost of living, and a reliance on imported energy..



Seoul sees this as an opportunity, but I have no faith in our federal government to be a reliable partner on investment and job creation.

[Anonymous]

The federal government has introduced a plan to greatly increase the use of hydrogen as a low-carbon fuel to help meet Canada's climate targets.



Hydrogen is considered a likely way to decarbonize industries that are hard to electrify, such as heavy transport or machinery.



It burns cleanly and can be produced using wind and solar power, so-called green hydrogen. It can also be made by stripping carbon from fossil fuels such as natural gas — after which the carbon is pumped underground — referred to as "blue" hydrogen.



The plan, released Wednesday, stretches out to 2050. It proposes that over the next five years regional hubs be created across the country in areas where hydrogen fits local needs or expertise in the fuel already exists.



The Edmonton area has access to abundant natural gas, successful facilities that store carbon underground and pipelines to move both the fuel and waste gas.



Ports across the country need lots of transportation fuel and could serve as hydrogen export terminals.



Transportation corridors from Montreal and Windsor to Detroit would have a high demand for fuel for both manufacturing and moving goods.



The strategy is to be funded by $1.5 billion announced last week as part of the government's climate change strategy.



Some environmental groups criticized the plan's provision for creating hydrogen from natural gas.



Wednesday's document provided few spending details.



It says long-term research funding is needed in all aspects of hydrogen technology. Reliable infrastructure, including refuelling stations, supply and distribution systems, and storage facilities for both hydrogen and carbon dioxide, will also need support, the report says.

Has Justine discussed this with Ford, GM, Chrysler, and the Asian automakers. Are they going to make hydrogen vehicles for the Canadian market.

[Anonymous]

What will hydrogen fuel stations look like.

 ac_dunno

[Anonymous]

What will hydrogen fuel stations look like.

 ac_dunno

It aint happwning.

[Odinson]

What will hydrogen fuel stations look like.

 ac_dunno

Regular fuel stations with hydrogen tanks and pumps.



This is for natural gas cars but I assume the principle is the same with hydrogen gas cars.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=lyd7wO5pIrw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=lyd7wO5pIrw

[Anonymous]

What will hydrogen fuel stations look like.

 ac_dunno

Regular fuel stations with hydrogen tanks and pumps.



This is for natural gas cars but I assume the principle is the same with hydrogen gas cars.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=lyd7wO5pIrw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=lyd7wO5pIrw

It's not going to happen here. At least not on a large scale.

[Anonymous]

I'm out of Canada in a little over three years. I won't see it either.

[Anonymous]

What will hydrogen fuel stations look like.

 ac_dunno

Regular fuel stations with hydrogen tanks and pumps.



This is for natural gas cars but I assume the principle is the same with hydrogen gas cars.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=lyd7wO5pIrw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=lyd7wO5pIrw

 ac_dunno

[Anonymous]

CP is testing hydrogen locomotives.