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What They Don’t Tell You About Electric Vehicles

Started by Anonymous, December 27, 2020, 02:10:27 PM

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Anonymous

But, wouldn't adding weight reduce mileage in a gasoline car?

Anonymous

Video shows enormous line of Teslas waiting to charge in Louisiana.

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Bricktop

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=443755 time=1647475087 user_id=3254
But, wouldn't adding weight reduce mileage in a gasoline car?


There is no free energy. Of course petrol powered vehicles use more fuel when load on the engine increases.



But battery drain is a different phenomenon than a fuel tank depleting. As I understand it, oil based fuels provide much more energy per unit than electricity, so they cope better with greater demand on their output. I believe that when batteries start to drain, they lose efficiency and so have to direct more of their power to keep the machine functioning. Petrol engines do not lose power as their petrol depletes. A car with half a tank of petrol continues to function normally. A half charged battery loses power.



Electric vehicles have another serious design flaw; by definition they must carry far more weight unloaded than petrol vehicles because of the batteries they carry.

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443766 time=1647478019 user_id=1560
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=443755 time=1647475087 user_id=3254
But, wouldn't adding weight reduce mileage in a gasoline car?


There is no free energy. Of course petrol powered vehicles use more fuel when load on the engine increases.



But battery drain is a different phenomenon than a fuel tank depleting. As I understand it, oil based fuels provide much more energy per unit than electricity, so they cope better with greater demand on their output. I believe that when batteries start to drain, they lose efficiency and so have to direct more of their power to keep the machine functioning. Petrol engines do not lose power as their petrol depletes. A car with half a tank of petrol continues to function normally. A half charged battery loses power.



Electric vehicles have another serious design flaw; by definition they must carry far more weight unloaded than petrol vehicles because of the batteries they carry.

True.

Zetsu

Quote from: Herman post_id=443763 time=1647477465 user_id=1689
Video shows enormous line of Teslas waiting to charge in Louisiana.

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Lol makes me remember I was almost once those people in the line waiting to charge up their cars, but I'm glad I got a diesel instead and got the best of 3 worlds of energy efficiency of a hybrid, convenience of fueling up and high torque of a SUV.
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Anonymous

It takes five minutes to fill my tank.....I couldn't imagine waiting hours to charge a car.

Zetsu

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443766 time=1647478019 user_id=1560
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=443755 time=1647475087 user_id=3254
But, wouldn't adding weight reduce mileage in a gasoline car?


There is no free energy. Of course petrol powered vehicles use more fuel when load on the engine increases.



But battery drain is a different phenomenon than a fuel tank depleting. As I understand it, oil based fuels provide much more energy per unit than electricity, so they cope better with greater demand on their output. I believe that when batteries start to drain, they lose efficiency and so have to direct more of their power to keep the machine functioning. Petrol engines do not lose power as their petrol depletes. A car with half a tank of petrol continues to function normally. A half charged battery loses power.



Electric vehicles have another serious design flaw; by definition they must carry far more weight unloaded than petrol vehicles because of the batteries they carry.


The scary part of owning a Tesla model S or X is their batteries cost at least $50 grand but only last at most 10 years.  Pretty much every day the battery loses about $15 of it's value, after 10 years the car can't be resold and the battery isn't recyclable.
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Zetsu

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=443789 time=1647484020 user_id=3254
It takes five minutes to fill my tank.....I couldn't imagine waiting hours to charge a car.


It's pretty crazy how many bottle necks EVs have, and I almost fell for it too.  The energy might be cheap, but wasting hours every day just to charge up in order to get home would drive me insane.
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Anonymous

Quote from: Zetsu post_id=443793 time=1647484704 user_id=61
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=443789 time=1647484020 user_id=3254
It takes five minutes to fill my tank.....I couldn't imagine waiting hours to charge a car.


It's pretty crazy how many bottle necks EVs have, and I almost fell for it too.  The energy might be cheap, but wasting hours every day just to charge up in order to get home would drive me insane.

I remember when you were all hot and horny for ev's.

Zetsu

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Quote from: Zetsu post_id=443793 time=1647484704 user_id=61
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=443789 time=1647484020 user_id=3254
It takes five minutes to fill my tank.....I couldn't imagine waiting hours to charge a car.


It's pretty crazy how many bottle necks EVs have, and I almost fell for it too.  The energy might be cheap, but wasting hours every day just to charge up in order to get home would drive me insane.

I remember when you were all hot and horny for ev's.


I'm just so glad I got over my EV fever, lol, and it'll suck if I ever got all the houses around me burned to the ground all just for a EV.
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Bricktop

Most power grids struggle to meet demand as it is.



Imagine if every vehicle on the road will need charging.

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443802 time=1647486112 user_id=1560
Most power grids struggle to meet demand as it is.



Imagine if every vehicle on the road will need charging.

And they want the electricity to come from wind and solar which can't produce anything close to what we need now.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=443804 time=1647486325 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443802 time=1647486112 user_id=1560
Most power grids struggle to meet demand as it is.



Imagine if every vehicle on the road will need charging.

And they want the electricity to come from wind and solar which can't produce anything close to what we need now.

More demand for electricity and less ability to produce it.

Anonymous

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Quote from: Herman post_id=443804 time=1647486325 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443802 time=1647486112 user_id=1560
Most power grids struggle to meet demand as it is.



Imagine if every vehicle on the road will need charging.

And they want the electricity to come from wind and solar which can't produce anything close to what we need now.

More demand for electricity and less ability to produce it.

Equals higher costs and reduced living standards.

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=443823 time=1647521152 user_id=114
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=443817 time=1647516726 user_id=3254
Quote from: Herman post_id=443804 time=1647486325 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443802 time=1647486112 user_id=1560
Most power grids struggle to meet demand as it is.



Imagine if every vehicle on the road will need charging.

And they want the electricity to come from wind and solar which can't produce anything close to what we need now.

More demand for electricity and less ability to produce it.

Equals higher costs and reduced living standards.

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