What They Don’t Tell You About Electric Vehicles

[Anonymous]

Most power grids struggle to meet demand as it is.



Imagine if every vehicle on the road will need charging.

And they want the electricity to come from wind and solar which can't produce anything close to what we need now.

More demand for electricity and less ability to produce it.

Equals higher costs and reduced living standards.

 

[Anonymous]

Most power grids struggle to meet demand as it is.



Imagine if every vehicle on the road will need charging.

And they want the electricity to come from wind and solar which can't produce anything close to what we need now.

More demand for electricity and less ability to produce it.

Equals higher costs and reduced living standards.

Just what rich prog pricks want.

[cc]

The myth of the $10 EV recharge



https://financialpost.com/opinion/terence-corcoran-the-myth-of-the-10-ev-recharge">Fake prices in the involuntary auto economy



n the magic world of the electric vehicle, nothing is priced at cost plus profit. Since there are no honest profits yet to be made in the Canadian EV market, the business of developing, producing, marketing and selling electric vehicles operates under a centrally planned command-and-control economic system. Nothing is real in the EV market, from the price of new Chevy Bolts to the cost of manufacture to the cost of filling up an EV at a charging station.



" In a centrally planned command economy, decision-making is centralized. "The government controls all of the supply and sets all of the demand. Prices cannot arise naturally like in a market economy, so prices in the economy must be set by government officials."



That pretty much defines the EV market today and as it will exist in the future under government mandates that will force the auto industry to stop selling internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles by 2035. Consumers will have no choice in the matter. As Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault said the other day, "it will not be voluntary." Governments plan to control prices, investment and consumer decisions, regardless of the reality of costs.



Governments also charge taxes on gasoline, revenue that is at least nominally collected to pay for roads and other infrastructure needed to support transport. Road spending will still be needed with EVs on the road. At current gas prices of $1.45 a litre, Ontario drivers currently pay 25 cents a litre in federal/provincial taxes (excluding carbon and sales taxes), which means that an EV driver should also be paying the equivalent amount to cover the same road cost. The tax-cost of filling up a gas engine at current prices, about $20, should be added to the price of an EV charge.

[Anonymous]

The myth of the $10 EV recharge



https://financialpost.com/opinion/terence-corcoran-the-myth-of-the-10-ev-recharge">Fake prices in the involuntary auto economy



n the magic world of the electric vehicle, nothing is priced at cost plus profit. Since there are no honest profits yet to be made in the Canadian EV market, the business of developing, producing, marketing and selling electric vehicles operates under a centrally planned command-and-control economic system. Nothing is real in the EV market, from the price of new Chevy Bolts to the cost of manufacture to the cost of filling up an EV at a charging station.



" In a centrally planned command economy, decision-making is centralized. "The government controls all of the supply and sets all of the demand. Prices cannot arise naturally like in a market economy, so prices in the economy must be set by government officials."



That pretty much defines the EV market today and as it will exist in the future under government mandates that will force the auto industry to stop selling internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles by 2035. Consumers will have no choice in the matter. As Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault said the other day, "it will not be voluntary." Governments plan to control prices, investment and consumer decisions, regardless of the reality of costs.



Governments also charge taxes on gasoline, revenue that is at least nominally collected to pay for roads and other infrastructure needed to support transport. Road spending will still be needed with EVs on the road. At current gas prices of $1.45 a litre, Ontario drivers currently pay 25 cents a litre in federal/provincial taxes (excluding carbon and sales taxes), which means that an EV driver should also be paying the equivalent amount to cover the same road cost. The tax-cost of filling up a gas engine at current prices, about $20, should be added to the price of an EV charge.

The tax free status of ev's will not last long.

[Anonymous]

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[Thiel]

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It can be that.

[Frood]

The myth of the $10 EV recharge



https://financialpost.com/opinion/terence-corcoran-the-myth-of-the-10-ev-recharge">Fake prices in the involuntary auto economy



n the magic world of the electric vehicle, nothing is priced at cost plus profit. Since there are no honest profits yet to be made in the Canadian EV market, the business of developing, producing, marketing and selling electric vehicles operates under a centrally planned command-and-control economic system. Nothing is real in the EV market, from the price of new Chevy Bolts to the cost of manufacture to the cost of filling up an EV at a charging station.



" In a centrally planned command economy, decision-making is centralized. "The government controls all of the supply and sets all of the demand. Prices cannot arise naturally like in a market economy, so prices in the economy must be set by government officials."



That pretty much defines the EV market today and as it will exist in the future under government mandates that will force the auto industry to stop selling internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles by 2035. Consumers will have no choice in the matter. As Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault said the other day, "it will not be voluntary." Governments plan to control prices, investment and consumer decisions, regardless of the reality of costs.



Governments also charge taxes on gasoline, revenue that is at least nominally collected to pay for roads and other infrastructure needed to support transport. Road spending will still be needed with EVs on the road. At current gas prices of $1.45 a litre, Ontario drivers currently pay 25 cents a litre in federal/provincial taxes (excluding carbon and sales taxes), which means that an EV driver should also be paying the equivalent amount to cover the same road cost. The tax-cost of filling up a gas engine at current prices, about $20, should be added to the price of an EV charge.

The tax free status of ev's will not last long.

The roll-out of pv on household's are hitting Australians hard these days. The credits they were promised on their bills are disappearing.



In some cases, they have lost all benefit of getting solar on their roofs (because they were jacked in solely to the grid.... not because others bought into battery banks).

[Anonymous]

The myth of the $10 EV recharge



Fake prices in the involuntary auto economy



n the magic world of the electric vehicle, nothing is priced at cost plus profit. Since there are no honest profits yet to be made in the Canadian EV market, the business of developing, producing, marketing and selling electric vehicles operates under a centrally planned command-and-control economic system. Nothing is real in the EV market, from the price of new Chevy Bolts to the cost of manufacture to the cost of filling up an EV at a charging station.



" In a centrally planned command economy, decision-making is centralized. "The government controls all of the supply and sets all of the demand. Prices cannot arise naturally like in a market economy, so prices in the economy must be set by government officials."



That pretty much defines the EV market today and as it will exist in the future under government mandates that will force the auto industry to stop selling internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles by 2035. Consumers will have no choice in the matter. As Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault said the other day, "it will not be voluntary." Governments plan to control prices, investment and consumer decisions, regardless of the reality of costs.



Governments also charge taxes on gasoline, revenue that is at least nominally collected to pay for roads and other infrastructure needed to support transport. Road spending will still be needed with EVs on the road. At current gas prices of $1.45 a litre, Ontario drivers currently pay 25 cents a litre in federal/provincial taxes (excluding carbon and sales taxes), which means that an EV driver should also be paying the equivalent amount to cover the same road cost. The tax-cost of filling up a gas engine at current prices, about $20, should be added to the price of an EV charge.

The tax free status of ev's will not last long.

Do you mean a way of taxing charging to cover the loss in gasoline revenue?

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[Anonymous]

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[cc]

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I hope they have some blankets  for night



This will take a while

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I hope they have some blankets  for night



This will take a while

They can get where they want to go faster by walking.

[Anonymous]

Washington State Democrats have enacted a plan that would aim to ban most non-electric vehicles in the state by 2030.

[Thiel]

Washington State Democrats have enacted a plan that would aim to ban most non-electric vehicles in the state by 2030.

Totally expected from Washington state.

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