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What They Don’t Tell You About Electric Vehicles

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Anonymous

Get an electric car they said. It''s safer they said.

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[Here's a ew concept climate nuts are using ]



https://news.sky.com/story/environmental-activists-claim-to-have-disarmed-nearly-2-000-suvs-in-one-month-12579597">Sky News > Environmental activists claim to have 'disarmed' nearly 2,000 SUVs in one month



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In a statement, the Tyre Extinguishers said its supporters had "disarmed" SUVs in Brighton, London, Manchester, Birmingham, Sheffield, Bristol, and Edinburgh.



The Tyre Extinguishers said action has been taken in cities across the country in a bid to "make it impossible" to own an SUV in urban areas.



The "leaderless group" describes the vehicles as a "climate disaster", "unnecessary" and "dangerous" and says it wants the government to introduce "pollution levies to tax SUVs out of existence".



SUVs feature elements of standard cars but are larger, have off-road capabilities and tend to be less fuel-efficient than other vehicles.



[ When one thinks about it, on a very large scale it could make for a very large problem - Could also be used on regular cars if they get enough people .. .which they prolly can]
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous


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What are they doing cc....slashing tires?

Yes - or just unscrewing the filler plug
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

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Quote from: Fashionista post_id=445335 time=1648868080 user_id=3254
What are they doing cc....slashing tires?

Yes - or just unscrewing the filler plug

I might have known such vigilante madness like this would happen.

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=445334 time=1648867729 user_id=88
[Here's a ew concept climate nuts are using ]



Sky News > Environmental activists claim to have 'disarmed' nearly 2,000 SUVs in one month



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In a statement, the Tyre Extinguishers said its supporters had "disarmed" SUVs in Brighton, London, Manchester, Birmingham, Sheffield, Bristol, and Edinburgh.



The Tyre Extinguishers said action has been taken in cities across the country in a bid to "make it impossible" to own an SUV in urban areas.



The "leaderless group" describes the vehicles as a "climate disaster", "unnecessary" and "dangerous" and says it wants the government to introduce "pollution levies to tax SUVs out of existence".



SUVs feature elements of standard cars but are larger, have off-road capabilities and tend to be less fuel-efficient than other vehicles.



[ When one thinks about it, on a very large scale it could make for a very large problem - Could also be used on regular cars if they get enough people .. .which they prolly can]

Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil have been hinting at Antifa style random attacks, but on property. They don't care. It's not like Extinction Rebellion supporters have jobs to go to and families to support.

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=445334 time=1648867729 user_id=88
[Here's a ew concept climate nuts are using ]



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In a statement, the Tyre Extinguishers said its supporters had "disarmed" SUVs in Brighton, London, Manchester, Birmingham, Sheffield, Bristol, and Edinburgh.



The Tyre Extinguishers said action has been taken in cities across the country in a bid to "make it impossible" to own an SUV in urban areas.



The "leaderless group" describes the vehicles as a "climate disaster", "unnecessary" and "dangerous" and says it wants the government to introduce "pollution levies to tax SUVs out of existence".



SUVs feature elements of standard cars but are larger, have off-road capabilities and tend to be less fuel-efficient than other vehicles.



[ When one thinks about it, on a very large scale it could make for a very large problem - Could also be used on regular cars if they get enough people .. .which they prolly can]

Just another prog money on the lives of the working class.

Anonymous

The cost of replacing a battery pack on a 2013 Nissan Leaf. Estimates ranged from $8,000 to an eye-watering $30,953.28 plus $1,200 in labour.

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Anonymous

I saw this on Facebook.



REALITY CHECK -

In case you were thinking of buying hybrid or an electric car...

Ever since the advent of electric cars, the REAL cost per mile of those things has never been discussed. All you ever heard was the mpg in terms of gasoline, with nary a mention of the cost of electricity to run it.

      At a neighborhood BBQ I was talking to a neighbor, a BC Hydro Executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious.

If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out, you had to face certain realities. For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.

This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So, as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This later "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this dead end road that it will be presented with an   'OOPS...!' and a shrug.

If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are eco-friendly, just read the following. Note: If you ARE a green person, read it anyway. It's enlightening.

Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors and he writes, "For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine." Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran  on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.

It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 Mpg = $0.10 per mile.  

The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000 while the Volt costs $46,000 plus. So the  Government wants us to pay twice as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run, and takes three times longer to drive across the country.

WAKE UP NORTH AMERICA!!!!!!!....copied from John Koth

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https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/city-proposes-10000-annual-fee-for-gas-stations-without-ev-charging/wcm/5e6a0bc6-8e33-4875-b5e5-55afe4843a5e">Vancouver Proposes $10,000 Annual Fee For Gas Stations Without EV Charging



A policy proposed by Vancouver city hall would charge gas stations and parking lots $10,000 per year for failing to provide charging stations for electric vehicles at their facilities.



The proposal is aimed at speeding up the rollout of EV charging stations across the city in the hopes of encouraging more people to buy electric vehicles.



Currently only two of the Vancouver's 66 gas stations offer electric vehicle charging stations.



The proposal is aimed at speeding up the rollout of EV charging stations across the city in the hopes of encouraging more people to buy electric vehicles.



"There would be an incentive to invest in EV charging to avoid the higher annual license fee," staff wrote in the report.



Businesses would have to make charging stations available in 2025 to avoid the increased license fee. Currently, the cost of a business license is $263 for a gas station and $163 for parking lots.



Gas stations would be required to provide 50 kilowatts of charging power — enough for one DC fast charger. Parking lots would have to provide at least 26.6 kilowatts, which would be enough for four Level 2 chargers, which typically provide 20-50 kilometres per hour of charging. Parking lots with less than 60 stalls would be exempt.
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

That will speed up the working class exodus from Vancouver.

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This is outright extortion in the name of serving their purposes   .. a total power play



It'd ethically wrong to force a business to carry any specific thing except only if it's a safety issue relative to other produces carried



Problem is, everything is ethically right if it involves phony climate issues
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=446857 time=1649966223 user_id=88
This is outright extortion in the name of serving their purposes   .. a total power play



It'd ethically wrong to force a business to carry any specific thing except only if it's a safety issue relative to other produces carried



Problem is, everything is ethically right if it involves phony climate issues

I was going to ask if they have the legal right to enforce this. But, it doesn't matter. It's BC and the excuse is saving the planet.