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What They Don’t Tell You About Electric Vehicles

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Zetsu

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Damn, that is even more disgusting than Odi's ignorant brain.  :yuk:



It's crazy how we will never get a tax break.

Even while Canadians are suffering, the federal government won't suspend the carbon tax, the federal fuels tax or even the GST on either.


I can still tolerate the high gas prices, but any higher I might have to end up getting a motorbike license.
Permanently off his rocker

Anonymous

Even old Jim Crow Joe Biden is calling for suspending the 18.4 cent per gallon federal gas tax. Justine will not budge.

Zetsu

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Even old Jim Crow Joe Biden is calling for suspending the 18.4 cent per gallon federal gas tax. Justine will not budge.


I don't think Trudeau will ever see us as human beings that can suffer from high living expense or taxes.
Permanently off his rocker

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=460778 time=1655862855 user_id=1689
Even old Jim Crow Joe Biden is calling for suspending the 18.4 cent per gallon federal gas tax. Justine will not budge.

That is low..



The minomum federal tax on a litre, not a gallon of gasoline in Canada is 36.78 cents.

Anonymous

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Even old Jim Crow Joe Biden is calling for suspending the 18.4 cent per gallon federal gas tax. Justine will not budge.

That is low..



The minomum federal tax on a litre, not a gallon of gasoline in Canada is 36.78 cents.

Our federal gaoline taxes are eight times higher than in the US.

Anonymous

Suspending the federal gas tax is just another Biden Administration stunt to distract from their self-inflicted crisis. We can lower gas prices by unleashing American energy production. The US needs to increase the supply side and Joe Biden is still committed to "putting the fossil fuel industry out of business."

Oliver Clotheshoffe

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Our federal gasoline taxes are eight times higher than in the US.






Yeah but don't you get subsided health care in return or something?
Life is too short to be in a hurry

Anonymous

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Quote from: Herman post_id=460795 time=1655866173 user_id=1689


Our federal gasoline taxes are eight times higher than in the US.






Yeah but don't you get subsided health care in return or something?

Health care is administered provincially.

Anonymous

Food for thought.



Electric Vehicles Have 'Embarrassing' Number of Quality Issues Compared to Combustion Engines: 2022 Study



Battery-electric vehicles (BEVs) and plug-in hybrid vehicles (PHEVs) have turned out to have more problems than internal combustion engines (ICE), according to a new study by data analysis and advisory firm J.D. Power.



While ICE vehicles averaged 175 problems per 100 vehicles (PP100), this jumped to 239 among PHEVs and 240 among BEVs, a June 28 press release of the J.D. Power 2022 U.S. Initial Quality Study stated. Lower scores represented higher-quality vehicles.



The BEV assessment does not include Tesla models. Tesla PP100 data are shown separately from the BEV average since "the predominance of Tesla vehicles could obscure the performance of the legacy automakers that have recently introduced BEVs," J.D. Power stated.



Tesla models, which were included in the industry calculation for the first time, averaged 226 problems per 100 vehicles.



Overall, there was an 11 percent increase in problems per 100 vehicles, with the industry average hitting 180 PP100. Vehicle problems reached a record high in the 36-year history of the study. J.D. Power blamed disruptions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, including personnel dislocations, record-high vehicle prices, and supply chain issues.





"In general, initial quality has shown steady improvement throughout the history of this study, so the decline this year is disappointing—yet understandable," said David Amodeo, director of global automotive at J.D. Power, according to the press release.



"Automakers continue to launch vehicles that are more and more technologically complex in an era in which there have been many shortages of critical components to support them."



Electric Mishaps

The report comes amidst a couple of electric vehicle recalls in recent weeks due to manufacturing defects. In June, Toyota Motors recalled 2,700 bZ4X SUVs globally. Toyota launched the bZ4X, the company's first mass-manufactured all-electric car, just a few months before the recall.



During sharp turns and sudden breaks, a hub bolt used in these vehicles was at risk of coming off, warned Japan's safety regulator.



"It's embarrassing," said Christopher Richter, an analyst at CLSA, according to Reuters. "People have waited so long for Toyota to get a mass-market battery electric vehicle ... and just a few weeks after they get it in the market there's a recall."



The same month, Ford recalled 48,924 Mustang Mach-E electric vehicles after discovering a defect with the car batteries that could lead to a loss of power while driving.



A study of 13,000 people from 18 countries published in May found that Americans were the least likely to buy an electric vehicle. While over 73 percent of Italians, 69 percent of Chinese, and 63 percent of South Koreans were committed to buying an EV, only 29 percent of Americans shared the enthusiasm.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/electric-vehicles-have-embarrassing-number-of-quality-issues-compared-to-combustion-engines-2022-study_4569221.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe-ai&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2022-07-01-ai-25&est=RDx1MVz1si5r8%2BFsgySGyELYjy96ZqqD6hlpNsbwxYyUg0j%2B0VB1Kt1Jd827Bkz4nw%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/electric- ... z4nw%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/electric-vehicles-have-embarrassing-number-of-quality-issues-compared-to-combustion-engines-2022-study_4569221.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe-ai&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2022-07-01-ai-25&est=RDx1MVz1si5r8%2BFsgySGyELYjy96ZqqD6hlpNsbwxYyUg0j%2B0VB1Kt1Jd827Bkz4nw%3D%3D

Anonymous

A survey discovered that charging logistics is the primary reason why Americans aren't buying electric vehicles.



Consumer Reports, which said it surveyed around 8,000 Americans, found that 61 percent said they wouldn't seek to own an electric vehicle because of charging logistics while 55 percent cited the number of miles a vehicle can go per charge. Another 52 percent said that the costs of buying and maintaining an electric vehicle are cost-prohibitive.

Anonymous

Tesla is now asking its customers in Texas to avoid charging their electric cars during peak hours to avoid stressing the power grid to the point of rolling blackouts. The warning comes as the Electric Reliability Council of Texas is calling on residents to conserve electricity during the recent heatwave.



Meanwhile, the Biden administration continues its march toward so-called "clean energy" by forcing the nation off coal and other fossil fuels before we have a viable replacement. Instead of switching to reliable nuclear and hydropower, our delusional leaders are betting on wind power, but the wind doesn't provide power when it doesn't blow. Wind accounts for about 30% of Texas' power supply, according to the Wall Street Journal.

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Anonymous

A Florida man went viral after he posted a car dealership quote showing it would cost nearly $30,000 to replace the battery in his electric vehicle.



Rob O'Donnell posted the quote, obtained from Roger Dean Chevrolet in Cape Coral, on Twitter last week. The quote includes the cost of the battery (nearly $27,000), the cost of labor ($1,200), and taxes for the repair (more than $1,700).



In total, it would cost O'Donnell $29,842.15 to replace the battery in his 2012 Chevrolet Volt. The car itself is worth far less.

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Oliver Clotheshoffe

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In recent years, California has had a really hard time keeping the lights on as it is. There are apparently too many people and not enough infrastructure – and the infrastructure that does exist is outdated and overloaded.



To reinvent the wheel at this point in time in order to accommodate a massive influx of electric vehicles will be an incredible feat. You might even say it is a pipe dream that is unlikely to succeed.



California is going to try anyway, though. Various electric vehicle (EV) prototypes are being unveiled, including a hydrogen-powered vehicle that only emits water.



Brouwer says that in order for this to even have a chance at working, there will need to be more focus on not just battery-electric cars but also many other types of electric cars.



"If we try to move in this direction and only use battery electric vehicles, we will fail," he says.



"The grid cannot charge every single transportation application. We must invest in both battery-electric vehicles and fuel-cell electric vehicles."



His focus is on hydrogen-electric vehicles, which he says will not stress the grid that much even if half of all drivers in California buy one by the year 2035.



"Those people can fill up their cars at hydrogen stations, which are much like gas stations, and will hopefully become more available throughout the state in the coming years," reported CBS News.



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Life is too short to be in a hurry

Breakfall

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A Florida man went viral after he posted a car dealership quote showing it would cost nearly $30,000 to replace the battery in his electric vehicle.



Rob O'Donnell posted the quote, obtained from Roger Dean Chevrolet in Cape Coral, on Twitter last week. The quote includes the cost of the battery (nearly $27,000), the cost of labor ($1,200), and taxes for the repair (more than $1,700).



In total, it would cost O'Donnell $29,842.15 to replace the battery in his 2012 Chevrolet Volt. The car itself is worth far less.

https://twitter.com/odonnell_r/status/1562846628503261185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1562846628503261185%7Ctwgr%5Eb25122c695d50cb6945dcaf0ec43d3fc6ef7a908%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fflorida-man-viral-cost-electric-vehicle-battery">https://twitter.com/odonnell_r/status/1 ... le-battery">https://twitter.com/odonnell_r/status/1562846628503261185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1562846628503261185%7Ctwgr%5Eb25122c695d50cb6945dcaf0ec43d3fc6ef7a908%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Fflorida-man-viral-cost-electric-vehicle-battery

Hey, sunshine...is there ever any positivity from you whatsoever? Are you an accountant or a mathematician of sorts? If you want to make a positive change...start making a difference in life. We don't need some nerd of doom and gloom telling us how it is. You...make the difference....you make the change. We're all 50 + yeah? Let's create a think-tank. Let's publish! Doesn't that sound grand? I sure as hell don't enjoy some prat telling me how it is when I can find the same information under my fingertips. Be the difference in life!

Anonymous

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In recent years, California has had a really hard time keeping the lights on as it is. There are apparently too many people and not enough infrastructure – and the infrastructure that does exist is outdated and overloaded.



To reinvent the wheel at this point in time in order to accommodate a massive influx of electric vehicles will be an incredible feat. You might even say it is a pipe dream that is unlikely to succeed.



California is going to try anyway, though. Various electric vehicle (EV) prototypes are being unveiled, including a hydrogen-powered vehicle that only emits water.



Brouwer says that in order for this to even have a chance at working, there will need to be more focus on not just battery-electric cars but also many other types of electric cars.



"If we try to move in this direction and only use battery electric vehicles, we will fail," he says.



"The grid cannot charge every single transportation application. We must invest in both battery-electric vehicles and fuel-cell electric vehicles."



His focus is on hydrogen-electric vehicles, which he says will not stress the grid that much even if half of all drivers in California buy one by the year 2035.



"Those people can fill up their cars at hydrogen stations, which are much like gas stations, and will hopefully become more available throughout the state in the coming years," reported CBS News.



https://www.planet-today.com/2022/08/california-electric-company-admits-it.html">https://www.planet-today.com/2022/08/ca ... ts-it.html">https://www.planet-today.com/2022/08/california-electric-company-admits-it.html

Canada has the same pledge to retrict new ICE vehicle sales after 2035. It is not even close to bein possible let alone sustainable.