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What They Don’t Tell You About Electric Vehicles

Started by Anonymous, December 27, 2020, 02:10:27 PM

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Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=402329 time=1613420630 user_id=88
yes, fantasy it is .. and unethical that the public pays to support it



Ultimately, after trillions of $ peed away, the whole thing will come crashing down (for which you posted many further technical and practical reasons)

Our solutions to the climate emergency mean making some people like Musk super rich at the expense of blue collar folks. I am pissed off too ceec.

Anonymous


@realAzhyaAryola

Quote from: Velvet post_id=402425 time=1613513678 user_id=2021
An electric car would be useless in this cold.


Exactly. You nailed it.
@realAzhyaAryola



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@realAzhyaAryola

Quote from: Herman post_id=402047 time=1613272860 user_id=1689
I find it hard to believe that if the old lady and I go to Norway in just nine short years, there will not be any internal combustion engine vehicles in that country. To quote AA, there will be "fuckery" with how they arrive at zero emissons.


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Anonymous

Quote from: Velvet post_id=402425 time=1613513678 user_id=2021
An electric car would be useless in this cold.

I wouldn't mind a hybrid.

Gaon

I feel sorry for anybody in Texas who owns an electric vehicle.
The Russian Rock It

Anonymous

Quote from: Gaon post_id=403221 time=1614058810 user_id=3170
I feel sorry for anybody in Texas who owns an electric vehicle.

I hadn't thought about that.

Anonymous

When electric vehicles burn, they really burn.



Man buys top-of-line Tesla — and 3 days later becomes trapped as it catches fire during drive and burns to the ground

https://www.theblaze.com/news/man-trapped-tesla-catches-fire?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__PM%202021-07-02&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM">https://www.theblaze.com/news/man-trapp ... Daily%20PM">https://www.theblaze.com/news/man-trapped-tesla-catches-fire?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__PM%202021-07-02&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM



A man's Tesla Model S Plaid electric car burst into flames on Tuesday while he was driving, Reuters reported — and the fire broke out just three days after the man took delivery of the top-of-the-line Tesla.



Mark Geragos, an attorney for the driver — identified only as an "executive entrepreneur" — said his client was driving when he noticed smoke, and soon, fire.



Geragos told the news agency that his client was initially unable to free himself from the vehicle as the flames shot across the vehicle because its electronic door system failed.



The man instead had to "use force to push it open" and was eventually able to extricate himself from the vehicle, which quickly erupted in a "fireball."



"The car continued to move for about 35 feet to 40 feet ... before turning into a 'fireball' in a residential area near the owner's Pennsylvania home," Reuters reported.



"It was a harrowing and horrifying experience," Geragos said in a statement. "This is a brand-new model. ... We are doing an investigation. We are calling for the S Plaid to be grounded, not to be on the road until we get to the bottom of this."



Insider reported that in a since-deleted post, Pennsylvania's Gladwyne Volunteer Fire Company took to Facebook where it stated that first responders "kept water flowing to the battery pack for close to 90 minutes to cool it down."



According to CNBC, two crews of firefighters worked at the scene for over three hours dealing with the fire.



A pattern seems to be emerging in recent years with regard to Teslas catching fire, as its lithium ion battery pack — which is on the underside of the vehicle — can easily overheat following collisions. Teslas, unfortunately, have also spontaneously burst into flames on occasion even when the vehicle isn't being driven.

Anonymous

I heard it was hard to extinguish a battery fire.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=415045 time=1625289377 user_id=1689
When electric vehicles burn, they really burn.



Man buys top-of-line Tesla — and 3 days later becomes trapped as it catches fire during drive and burns to the ground

https://www.theblaze.com/news/man-trapped-tesla-catches-fire?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__PM%202021-07-02&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM">https://www.theblaze.com/news/man-trapp ... Daily%20PM">https://www.theblaze.com/news/man-trapped-tesla-catches-fire?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__PM%202021-07-02&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM



A man's Tesla Model S Plaid electric car burst into flames on Tuesday while he was driving, Reuters reported — and the fire broke out just three days after the man took delivery of the top-of-the-line Tesla.



Mark Geragos, an attorney for the driver — identified only as an "executive entrepreneur" — said his client was driving when he noticed smoke, and soon, fire.



Geragos told the news agency that his client was initially unable to free himself from the vehicle as the flames shot across the vehicle because its electronic door system failed.



The man instead had to "use force to push it open" and was eventually able to extricate himself from the vehicle, which quickly erupted in a "fireball."



"The car continued to move for about 35 feet to 40 feet ... before turning into a 'fireball' in a residential area near the owner's Pennsylvania home," Reuters reported.



"It was a harrowing and horrifying experience," Geragos said in a statement. "This is a brand-new model. ... We are doing an investigation. We are calling for the S Plaid to be grounded, not to be on the road until we get to the bottom of this."



Insider reported that in a since-deleted post, Pennsylvania's Gladwyne Volunteer Fire Company took to Facebook where it stated that first responders "kept water flowing to the battery pack for close to 90 minutes to cool it down."



According to CNBC, two crews of firefighters worked at the scene for over three hours dealing with the fire.



A pattern seems to be emerging in recent years with regard to Teslas catching fire, as its lithium ion battery pack — which is on the underside of the vehicle — can easily overheat following collisions. Teslas, unfortunately, have also spontaneously burst into flames on occasion even when the vehicle isn't being driven.

These fires are not isolated incidents.

cc

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=415062 time=1625331220 user_id=3254
I heard it was hard to extinguish a battery fire.


From several incidents in the news I have seen it takes several hours of high volume water flow to cool them so they will not burn



I'm guessin many areas cannot drain off that kind of flow ...  a condo or office building underground could be a catastrophe  .. not to mention the deadly fumes and waste of water



Newer ones are 800 volts and rescuers need to know if ignition is off and it is not shorted to body to rescue people, as they could be electrocuted by touching vehicle with their feet of course on the ground



https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/3/17530646/tesla-battery-fire-electric-vehicles-transportation-science">Electric vehicles mean first responders have to deal with battery fires



Electric vehicle batteries can reignite even after the fire is put out - They don't just burn paint and interior, they can eat the car itself



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I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Look at that.



E-cars present all kinds of new challenges for the environment, our ability to produce enough power, resource depletion, and now safety.

Frood

Electric cars are a misnomer about efficiency and reliability... until they can self charge by PV cells, and quickly, there's absolutely no reason to have them.





They're dirty, limited, and unreliable...
Blahhhhhh...

Gaon

There are a lot of myths about electric cars. The first one is that have a small environmental impact.
The Russian Rock It

cc

Economical and pollution free



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I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell