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What They Don’t Tell You About Electric Vehicles

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BULLSEYE!!

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 :ohmy:

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Strange I didn't see Trudeau holding up this image when he mandated an all electric fleet across Canada by 2035.

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Green_Hornet

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Liar liar pants on fire.

In Chile's desert lie vast reserves of lithium — key for electric car batteries

September 24, 20226:00 AM ET

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/24/1123564599/chile-lithium-mining-atacama-desert">https://www.npr.org/2022/09/24/11235645 ... ama-desert">https://www.npr.org/2022/09/24/1123564599/chile-lithium-mining-atacama-desert



In the article it has a link to the environmental concern about the reduced amount of flamingos

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1098/rspb.2021.2388">https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/ ... .2021.2388">https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1098/rspb.2021.2388

Green_Hornet

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How long do EV batteries last?

Under current estimates, most EV batteries will last somewhere between 10-20 years before they need to be replaced.



However, according to a survey by Cox Automotive, many potential EV buyers have reservations when it comes to battery life and the costs associated with battery replacement.



For many considering purchasing an electric vehicle, just under half consider the average battery life to be less than 65,000 miles.



How much does an electric car battery cost?

The aforementioned fears are understandable: the battery pack of an EV is by far the most expensive part of the vehicle and can cost £5,500 on average and even as much as £9,400 per battery in some cases.



It's important to note here that battery prices have fallen dramatically over the past decade. For example, the average price of a kilowatt-hour—the standard measure of a battery's price—dropped from £948 per kWh in 2010 to just £105 today.



That price is expected to fall to stabilise at £74 per kWh by 2031; universally considered the point that EVs will cost as much as petrol cars to manufacture.



An EV driving on a road in the middle of a forest



The majority of manufacturers give between five to ten years warranty on their batteries or up to 62,000 miles.



Batteries are designed not to die fully, but slowly lose charging capacity over time. This depletion happens gradually with many reporting the loss of a few percentage points over the several years. To put this into perspective, according to Plug In America, a Tesla Model S's battery only loses five percent of its original capacity over the first 50,000 miles.



However, as with many components of older vehicles, the battery will eventually begin to degrade. To measure this, when looking at the average decline across all vehicles, the loss is arguably minor, at 2.3 percent per year. This means that if you purchase an EV today with a 150 miles range, you'll have only lost about 17 miles of accessible range after five years.



https://blog.evbox.com/uk-en/ev-battery-longevity">https://blog.evbox.com/uk-en/ev-battery-longevity



The anti-EV idiots must like paying the high gas prices.

$2.20 per litre in Vancouver.



To fill up my old car cost about $80.

To fully recharge on a level 3 charger $13.00 close to empty  which is still expensive ;).  Charging at home estimate $9.00.

BC Hydro energy cost is 0.10 Kilowatt Hour Level 1 rate, 0.15 Kilowatt Hour Level 2 rate.

To drive 20 km cost 30 cents on a EV Level 1 rate cost and it takes 3 hours to charge on 110v.



I love the instant torque response from the EV!!!  It scared me how fast it accelerate when I put the petal to metal.



No oil changes, no anti-freeze coolant changes, no transmission fluid change, less brake maintenance (due to the regenerative braking).



I love the free EV Charging!!!.  There are six level 2 Flo EV charging for free at the Tsawwassen Mills near the Walmart.  Good part.  Most of the free charging stations are available all the time!!!

I finish my shopping and come to a fully charged car for FREE!  P.S.  Don't remotely run the air conditioning full blast before arriving, the FLO EV charger does not like that and shuts down.



U.S. crosses the electric-car tipping point for mass adoption

The next major car markets approaching the tipping point this year include Canada, Australia, and Spain

https://driving.ca/auto-news/industry/u-s-crosses-the-electric-car-tipping-point-for-mass-adoption">https://driving.ca/auto-news/industry/u ... s-adoption">https://driving.ca/auto-news/industry/u-s-crosses-the-electric-car-tipping-point-for-mass-adoption

Anonymous

GH, you are a idiot besides being a piss poor troll. Can e dispose of old EV batteries next to where you live? How long will you live?



Why do you think gasoline in Vancocuver is over two dollars litre? Progresssive policiea are manipulating the market, you moron.ba



Electric car batteries are an environmental disaster  Electric vehicles have a dirty secret: the lithium and cobalt that are in EV car batteries destroy the environment and violate human rights. Lithium mining requires a massive amount of water, which is increasingly in short supply in many regions of the world. Approximately 500,000 gallons of water get used for every ton of lithium mined. To extract lithium, "miners drill a hole in salt flats and pump salty, mineral-rich brine to the surface." The water then evaporates after several months, which leaves lithium and other minerals.



The Lithium Triangle in South America, which includes portions of Bolivia, Chile, and Argentina, contains more than half of the world's supply of lithium. The region is also very dry. In Chile's Salar de Atacama, lithium mining consumes 65% of the region's water. The problem is so bad that farmers and other people in the local communities have to get water elsewhere.



In addition to using a great deal of water, lithium mining causes water, soil, and air pollution. Toxic chemicals like hydrochloric acid used in the mining process can leak from evaporation pools and contaminate the surrounding area.



Another problem regarding lithium-ion EV car batteries is the high amount of lithium-ion waste

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ev-car-batteries-destroy-environment-violate-human-rights/">https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ev-car-bat ... an-rights/">https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ev-car-batteries-destroy-environment-violate-human-rights/



The Mercedes-Benz EQC, comes in at 1,400 pounds. Typically made with cobalt, nickel, and manganese, among other components, these batteries cost thousands of dollars and come with an environmental burden: They require ingredients sourced from polluting mines and smelters around the world, and they can ultimately contaminate soil and water supplies when disposed.



California cannot produce enough electricity now ywou idiot What happens when all cars are electric. Not to mention the disposal of the toxic batteries.

Green_Hornet

SB: You idiot.

I have charging option on my EV.  It is called the timer. I never use it. I can charge during non-peak times in California.  20km cost 30 cents for 3 hours charging on 110v, level 1 BC Hydro rates: $0.10 Kilowatt Hour. (Of course, SB is too stupid to do the match and figure the rapid return on investment on an EV including very low maintenance on EVs.  From the first time, I am driving an EV I am saving money.)



Why Electric Vehicles Won't Break the Grid

Though conservatives have attacked California officials for asking electric vehicle owners to unplug during a heat wave, experts say more electric cars won't topple the power grid

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-electric-vehicles-wont-break-the-grid/">https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -the-grid/">https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-electric-vehicles-wont-break-the-grid/



My heating in the winter is WAY MORE than charging the EV.  I cannot even see the cost of charging my EV in my electric bill because everything else takes more power.  AC is the high temperature summer is WAY MORE than charging the EV in the Summer in California.



Did you check the new EV especially the new KIA EV and the Ford F150 Lighting, SB you moron?

They have V2G (Vehicle to Grid) capability.  SB you idiot.  The V2G capability will save the grid.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-to-grid">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-to-grid



The new KIA EV has a 110VAC option included.  Great for camping when you need AC Power.

I love the AC output from the F150 Lighting that is suppose to keep the average house powered up for 3 days.  (220VAC standard output!!!)

All current and future EV trucks have an AC Power option.  (Of course, you don't know that SB because you are an idiot.)



Texas man uses new 2021 Ford F-150  to heat home, power appliances during blackout  (This is the massive 3 day blackout in Texas.)

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2021/02/18/texas-power-outage-storm-blackout-ford-f-150-generator/6797103002/">https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ ... 797103002/">https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2021/02/18/texas-power-outage-storm-blackout-ford-f-150-generator/6797103002/

I love the Ford F-150 tailgate, it has a bottle opener built in.



PS. I love level 2 EV charging for free at many shopping centers.  After you finish your shopping, your EV is fully charged.  If the Level 2 EV charger hits the maximum of 6 Kilowatt charging, that is sweet!!  1 Kilowatt charging is what you get from home when charging on 110 v.  Tsawwassen Mills has 6 free FLO EV charging stations near the Walmart.  Most of them are free all the time.  Get a free FLO membership and you are good to go.

Anonymous

Here is the Hornung the virgin shilling for the EV scammers.

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Anonymous

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This is me. I'm still a virgin.

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We know.

Anonymous

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Here is the Hornung the virgin shilling for the EV scammers.

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That is him, but Hornydung is a White virgin not an Asian virgin.

Anonymous

I can't believe that virgin troll Hornydung tried to pass off an editorial from unscientificamerican as proof, Electric vehicles are completely unsustainable as well as turning the world turning the world into a toxic toilet.



The companies that actually produce electricity admit the grid cannot possibly support the lunacy of ev's.



California Wants Everybody To Buy an Electric Car, but Its Own Energy Grid Can't Support It

https://reason.com/2022/09/01/california-wants-everybody-to-buy-an-electric-car-but-its-own-energy-grid-cant-support-it/">https://reason.com/2022/09/01/californi ... upport-it/">https://reason.com/2022/09/01/california-wants-everybody-to-buy-an-electric-car-but-its-own-energy-grid-cant-support-it/

Ms.Min

Green_Hornet, no repetitive spam in this section please..



If you must get upset take it to Rejected.

Anonymous

I forgot to mention unscientificamerican endorsed Joe Biden for president. Enjpying Bidenflation, thank thank them and that idiot White troll Hornydung.

Anonymous

Hey Hornung the virgin, are you still comapring yourself to tormented teenaged girls, ya fucking mental case.