Green Jobs Collapse In Germany, Go To China Instead.

[Anonymous]

Well compensated workers in the resource sector who've lost their jobs due to climate extremism will be waiting forever for comparable green jobs.

John Kerry says they can go build solar panels.

Where? In Chinese factories powered by coal-fired plants?

Yes. ac_biggrin

[Anonymous]

Well compensated workers in the resource sector who've lost their jobs due to climate extremism will be waiting forever for comparable green jobs.

John Kerry says they can go build solar panels.

Where? In Chinese factories powered by coal-fired plants?

Yes. ac_biggrin

I'm sure prog money wishes they could send blue collar workers there.

[Anonymous]

Speaking of green energy in Germany. Temperatures dropped to -27°C this morning in Germany. Solar panels would not keep anything warm. Thank God for natural gas and fossil fuels to keep Europeans warm whenever they are needed.

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Brilliant isn't it.

[cc]

I missed saving a pic of a fuel guzzling  chopper spraying  de-icer on  stupid windmills to get them going again ... another great idea  :001_rolleyes:

[Anonymous]

I missed saving a pic of a fuel guzzling  chopper spraying  de-icer on  stupid windmills to get them going again ... another great idea  :001_rolleyes:

I saw that one. Ridiculous or what.

[Anonymous]

I would say they need heat from sources like natural gas, not Chinese solar panels.

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RECORD COLD INVADES MOSCOW, EIFFEL TOWER REQUIRES BLOWTORCH, AUTOBAHN CHAOS IN GERMANY, AND SUMMER CHILLS BLAMED FOR MASS BIRD DEATHS IN AUSTRALIA

[Anonymous]

Pursuing solar and wind has only offshored German workers' jobs.

Look to Germany to see why wind and solar power won't replace oil for decades to come

A Sun-Times editorial is wrong in arguing that renewable energy will reduce the need for oil imports.



Last week, the Sun-Times editorial board wrote that "as renewable energy comes online, it will reduce the need for oil imports." A look at what's happened in Germany over the past decade proves that conclusion is specious at best.



No country has done more to phase out oil than Germany. But petroleum remains the country's leading energy source — 35% of the energy mix — a decade after the implementation of its "Energiewende" policy. To meet continued strong demand, Germany imports 98% of the oil it consumes, primarily from Russia. Seventy-eight percent Germany's energy needs are met by fossil fuels and, as Clean Energy Wire reports, "In the midst of the Energiewende, Germany relies still heavily on imports of fossil fuels."



Germany is proof positive that renewable energy mandates do little, if anything, to reduce petroleum demand.



One reason is the fact wind and solar provide no alternative for the thousands of uses for petroleum that are essential and largely taken for granted. Fifty-five percent of petroleum demand is non-gasoline and 31% occurs outside the transportation sector. More than 6,000 everyday products, including dozens of medical supplies, pharmaceuticals and tech gadgets such as smart phones, are largely petroleum-based. Petrochemicals are even needed to manufacture wind turbines, solar panels and more than 70% of the typical electric car.



We are going to need a lot of oil for decades to come, and it's better to produce as much of it here as possible rather than rely on other countries for the oil we need. This is not a "deceitful" argument, as the Sun-Times' editorial board put it — it's a simple fact.

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[Anonymous]

Cost-The initial cost of purchasing a solar system is fairly high.

Weather dependent- Although solar energy can still be collected during cloudy and rainy days, the efficiency of the solar system drops.

Solar energy storage is expensive- It uses a lot of space, produces little energy KWH and adds a lot of toxic pollution.

[Anonymous]

Cost-The initial cost of purchasing a solar system is fairly high.

Weather dependent- Although solar energy can still be collected during cloudy and rainy days, the efficiency of the solar system drops.

Solar energy storage is expensive- It uses a lot of space, produces little energy KWH and adds a lot of toxic pollution.

But, they work so frickin well when covered in snow.

[Odinson]

They sell solar energy in Finland... The panels are in Spain.



I did ask them if they have cables coming from Spain to Finland.  ac_biggrin





Its an energy bank/exchange system where they take the energy from our existing power-grid.





Sounds a bit like a scam where I pay increased price for electricity and there is no solar panels anywhere.

[Anonymous]

It's a scam.

[Anonymous]

They sell solar energy in Finland... The panels are in Spain.



I did ask them if they have cables coming from Spain to Finland.  ac_biggrin





Its an energy bank/exchange system where they take the energy from our existing power-grid.





Sounds a bit like a scam where I pay increased price for electricity and there is no solar panels anywhere.

How ridiculous is that.

[Anonymous]

Green jobs for China. Job losses for people in Canada and the States.

'Green jobs' in the German renewables sector have collapsed by 50 percent in less than a decade.



No prizes for guessing where they've gone instead – but here's a clue: it begins with 'C' and ends with '-hina'.



According to Clean Energy Wire in their report of the findings of Europe's largest trade union confederation:



The number of jobs in the German renewables sector (production and installation) has fallen from about 300,000 in 2011 to around 150,000 in 2018, the German Trade Union Association (DGB) found in an analysis of employment in the energy transition.



The drop in employment is mostly due to the collapse of Germany's solar power industry over the past decade, as many companies were forced out of business thanks to cheaper competitors from China scooping up most of the market. The number of jobs in solar PV panel production and installation fell from a record 133,000 in 2011 to under 28,000 seven years later.



In the wind industry, the number of jobs dropped from its record of roughly 108,000 in 2016 to under 70,000 just two years later. "Employment with respect to construction renewable energy installations has been very dynamic in the last 20 years, both in a negative and in a positive way," the DGB said, arguing that many more jobs could be created in the sector again.



There are two key points to be made here. First, China is not remotely interested in green issues — or 'clean' energy — except insofar as it enables it to gain a competitive advantage over the West while it continues full steam ahead with its fossil fuel-powered industries.



Second, the 'green jobs' promised by everyone from President Joe Biden to UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson as one of the benefits of their proposed Net-Zero revolutions are a myth. Or, if you prefer, a blatant lie.



This was predicted in a Global Warming Policy Foundation report published ten years ago by Dr. Gordon Hughes, Professor of Economics at the University of Edinburgh.



He wrote then:



For the longer term, there is little doubt that the primary beneficiary [of green energy policies] will be China. That is already apparent from the way the market is developing.



Renewable energy, he added, will always be a net-jobs killer because of its effects on the broader economy. By driving up the cost of energy — perhaps doubling it — and diverting capital spending from more efficient sectors of the economy, renewables destroy more jobs than they create.



In terms of the labour market, the gains for a small number of actual or potential employees in businesses specialising in renewable energy has to be weighed against the dismal prospects for a much larger group of workers producing tradable goods in the rest of the manufacturing sector.



We can't say we weren't warned. Net Zero is a looming disaster and the politicians steering us towards it are doing so with their eyes wide open – and their tongues as forked as a snake's.

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There is some good information on that site.

[Anonymous]

German Hi-Tech Firms Driven Offshore By Unaffordable & Unreliable Renewable Energy

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'Net zero' is precisely the number of meaningful jobs that'll be left after our 'inevitable transition' to an all wind and sun powered future.



Looking for an example? Look no further than the wind and solar acolyte's pinup girl, Germany.



Notwithstanding billions of euros in subsidies, courageous mandates and punitive targets, its Energiewende has failed to deliver on the long-promised green energy jobs bonanza. And, worse, hundreds of thousands of the renewable energy 'industry' jobs that once existed, are fast disappearing.



Its increasingly unaffordable and chaotically unreliable wind and solar supply are having perfectly predictable effects on the German economy, as a whole.



One myth peddled by renewable energy rent seekers and their propagandists is that meaningful, well-paid jobs (of the kind that Uni grads crave) are situated in high-tech businesses and industries that are untroubled by the world's highest power prices.



Well, mercenary as it may seem, most businesses attempt to make a profit and hope to avoid being wound up in bankruptcy.



Faced with the choice between going broke or going elsewhere, Germany's world-renowned high-tech businesses are opting for the latter course.



Here's Jo Nova detailing the exodus caused by Germany's mounting renewable energy debacle.



German experiment to make wind-powered Silicon Chips fails

Jo Nova Blog

Jo Nova

24 February 2020



This is another example of how more green jobs means less real ones.  A German High Tech Chip maker driven to Singapore by renewable energy prices.



To understand the scale of just how green Germany is, ponder that it has the third largest wind power fleet in the world, with around 30,000 turbines.



In 2020, wind power generated more than a quarter of German electricity and solar power another 10%.  Despite all that *free* energy Germans pay some of the highest electricity prices in the world at 38c/KWh. Whereas Singaporeans use natural gas and pay 18c/KWh. Germans are famous for their high tech engineering, but now they can't afford to manufacture it at home. Siltronic is moving, and along with that presumably goes some of the intellectual property, brains, and security that comes with having that production locally.



Chipmakers lament high taxes and levies on electricity in Germany

Siltronic boss Christoph von Plotho blames Germany's high energy costs for the decision: "The high electricity price makes the location unattractive," he said in an interview with the Handelsblatt. His company pays "less than half the electricity price" in Singapore.



The main cost driver in Germany is the green energy levy under the Renewable Energy Sources Act (EEG) which has cost energy consumers more than 30 billion euros last year.



It's not just expensive electricity, it's "insecure" electricity:



Germany's largest semiconductor producer Infineon told Handelsblatt that insecure power supply was also a major factor in reconsidering industrial production in Germany and Europe.



Clean Energy Wire

[Anonymous]

I didn't know Germany was a major chip manufacturer. I thought it was mostly in Asia. Taiwan in particular.