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Justice in America? I don't think so.

Started by Bricktop, April 20, 2021, 08:15:21 PM

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Quote from: "Dinky Dazza" post_id=409071 time=1619148671 user_id=1676
Funny how you've been arguing that only police and soldiers should be able to defend themselves...then you argue that a police officer was wrong for defending an unarmed teenager from getting stabbed...



...if he was wrong for shooting her, shouldn't she have been able to return fire if she too had a sidearm?   :JC_howdy:



Is self defence a right or not?



(Metamucil up the pot or get off)  :laugh3:


What the fuck are you dribbling about?



I shall let you into a trade secret. Police in Australia and the UK are trained NOT to resort to lethal force if it is avoidable. They are taught that their role is to save ALL lives involved, even the offender.



I have watched the video of her killing. That cop had non lethal options, yet he chose to just draw and fire. Automatically. Because THAT is the American way. By my assessment of that situation, he had options available in the circumstances that were not lethal.



Now, perhaps you've also seen the video and have an opinion. But as you have no knowledge or experience on police tactics, your opinion is worth less that a drip of rats piss. If that incident had occurred in a more civilised and rational country, that child would be alive today. But American values, as you so capably reflect, are that killing people is an effective method of defusing a situation.



I have been involved in much more dangerous and critical situations than that, and shot nobody. Everyone lived...some even with gunshot wounds.



How about you? Ever been in a life threatening situation which required you to act instantly? Tell us about it.

Bricktop

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=409073 time=1619149439 user_id=3254


It happens in Canada too..



An eighteen year old boy was shot needlessly by Toronto police on a streetcar.

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A 10cm blade.



And the cops are in a panic. Who was in imminent danger?



That looks awfully like your Canadian cops model themselves on the US variant.

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=409077 time=1619150282 user_id=1560
Quote from: Fashionista post_id=409073 time=1619149439 user_id=3254


It happens in Canada too..



An eighteen year old boy was shot needlessly by Toronto police on a streetcar.

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A 10cm blade.



And the cops are in a panic. Who was in imminent danger?



That looks awfully like your Canadian cops model themselves on the US variant.

I thought the same when I saw that video..



The adolescent male was on an empty streetcar and no threat to anyone, and a policeman shot him eight times..



There have been other cases of questionable police shootings in Canada too.

Anonymous

Rules 'for white people' posted at barricaded entrance of George Floyd Square in Minneapolis, the 'sacred space' where he died

https://www.theblaze.com/news/rules-for-white-people-george-floyd-square?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__PM%202021-04-22&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM">https://www.theblaze.com/news/rules-for ... Daily%20PM">https://www.theblaze.com/news/rules-for-white-people-george-floyd-square?utm_source=theblaze-dailyPM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily-Newsletter__PM%202021-04-22&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Daily%20PM



Remember George Floyd Square in Minneapolis? The "autonomous zone" of several barricaded blocks where Floyd died last May that the city has allowed to exist — and that's now controlled by thuggish, left-wing militants?



Well, if you're itching to pay a visit to George Floyd Square anytime soon — and you happen to be white — you'll need to pay heed to the rules governing the "sacred space for community, public grief, and protest."



What are the details?

Jorge Ventura, a field reporter for the Daily Caller, took video outside George Floyd Square and posted it Wednesday to Twitter. And besides the traffic barricades and other objects spread across the street, Ventura spotted a sign spelling out guidelines for the square:



It offers three general rules to everyone who enters as an "invited guest":



"Enter with reverence, humility, and openness."

"Care for each other by wearing a mask and ask others to wear a mask."

"Honor the space as a place to connect and grieve as caring humans."

Fair enough.



But if you're white...

However, the longest and most detailed part of the sign is preceded by a heading that reads, "For White people in particular." And the rules are as follows:



"Decenter yourself and come to listen, learn, mourn, and witness. Remember you are here to support, not to be supported."

"Be mindful of whether your volume, pace, and movements are supporting or undermining your efforts to decenter yourself."

"Seek to contribute to the energy of the space, rather than drain it. Bring your own processing to other white folks so that you will not harm [black, indigenous, and people of color]."

"Consider if you want or need to take photos and post them. Do not take photos of other people without their consent."

"If you witness white folks doing problematic things, speak up with compassion to take the burden [off of] Black folks and our siblings of color whenever appropriate. Seek to engage rather than escalate, so that it can be a learning moment rather than a disruption."

How did people react?

Some observers saw nothing wrong with the rules for whites, while others had more than a few problems with them:



"I wonder how everyone would react if any sign.. anywhere.. for anything.. said, 'For black people in particular,'" one commenter wondered.

"How about as a 'white' American I'll just do whatever the hell I want within the confines of the law in any public space?" another user noted. "No woke pandering here. The people that cave to this idiocy are worse than the ones who demand it."

"The U.S. has truly lost it," another user declared. "It's incredible to watch."

"The most f***ed up part of all of this is that so many white 'allies' submit to this garbage," another commenter asserted. "The tables have turned, and honestly it's like 2% of the population feeding us this garbage. Black, white, Asian, whatever, rational humans need to object to this."

Here's Ventura's clip of his moment at the George Floyd Square's barricade:

https://twitter.com/VenturaReport/status/1384949303429447686?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1384949303429447686%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Frules-for-white-people-george-floyd-square">https://twitter.com/VenturaReport/statu ... oyd-square">https://twitter.com/VenturaReport/status/1384949303429447686?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1384949303429447686%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Frules-for-white-people-george-floyd-square



Anything else?

TheBlaze in March took note of NewsNation correspondent Brian Entin's rather unsettling encounter with a pair of militants who showed up while he was on camera just outside the Floyd memorial and told him to leave in no uncertain terms.



"You're gonna be in a bad situation in a second," one of them told Entin.



After a short exchange that included Entin explaining that he's a media member, the militant shot back, "I don't give a f*** who you are." Entin took the hint and departed.

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1369456310073298944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1369456310073298944%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Frules-for-white-people-george-floyd-square">https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1 ... oyd-square">https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1369456310073298944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1369456310073298944%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com%2Fnews%2Frules-for-white-people-george-floyd-square

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=409077 time=1619150282 user_id=1560


A 10cm blade.



And the cops are in a panic. Who was in imminent danger?



That looks awfully like your Canadian cops model themselves on the US variant.

Of all the problems that prog elites have inflicted on this continent, cops killing people aint in the top one hundred.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=409092 time=1619153385 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=409077 time=1619150282 user_id=1560


A 10cm blade.



And the cops are in a panic. Who was in imminent danger?



That looks awfully like your Canadian cops model themselves on the US variant.

Of all the problems that prog elites have inflicted on this continent, cops killing people aint in the top one hundred.

Bingo.

cc

Quote from: Fashionista post_id=409072 time=1619149266 user_id=3254
Quote from: cc post_id=409066 time=1619141949 user_id=88
Hmmm



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"Friendly" networks edited out the knife to make a story of it

I'm not familiar with this case cc.

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Quote from: "Deceptive X Cop" 4 inch blade


1st, not the issue, especially when going after head / neck area



2nd, it was far larger even if measured directly from the obvious & deceptive 45 degree angle shot
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

cc

#37
Quote from: "Deceptive X Cop" 4 inch blade


1st, not the issue, especially when going after head / neck area



2nd, it was far larger even if measured directly from the obvious & deceptive 45 degree angle shot






Quote from: "Woke Ex Cop" ....... American cops kill black offenders.

Never thot you would fall for the WOKE Propaganda bullshit that cops kill blacks disproportionally to the proportional ratio of violent crime .. and proportional  ratio of those who will attack cops with weapons



It's lazy thinking Woke whites falling for this 24/7 media propelled crapola  that justifies and thereby feeds the unjustified, dangerous  and destructive violent dissent



As one example, "NBC News Leaves Out Key Part of 911 Call In Fatal Police Shooting" ... What else is new?? .. sigh

First minute + tells the whole sick story & examples what is going on EVERY TIME

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I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

We know they are almost always male.



Most Mass Shooters 'Dad-Deprived Males': Author Warren Farrell



Key commonalities for most mass shooters in the United States are that they are male and that they lack a father figure in their lives, author Warren Farrell says.



"There's common denominators among mass shooters, the most obvious is that they're male—98 percent are male. A second common denominator is that they're almost all dad-deprived males," Farrell told The Epoch Times' "American Thought Leaders."

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/most-mass-shooters-dad-deprived-males-author-warren-farrell_3786721.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-04-23&mktids=c1d74a4f871b7ea0caf45ff8afe4be35&est=Er98pPhUtCM4ZBVnbzxq8Aw9u0C9tZq6OTBeLBm3fD4Ujc8H6wt0qxHfmZTmCps5%2FA%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morni ... %2FA%3D%3D">https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/most-mass-shooters-dad-deprived-males-author-warren-farrell_3786721.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-04-23&mktids=c1d74a4f871b7ea0caf45ff8afe4be35&est=Er98pPhUtCM4ZBVnbzxq8Aw9u0C9tZq6OTBeLBm3fD4Ujc8H6wt0qxHfmZTmCps5%2FA%3D%3D

cc

Quote from: Herman post_id=409056 time=1619119877 user_id=1689
As calls continue to echo across the country for local and state governments to address concerns about police conduct, Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D) unveiled her newest police reform idea: Force cops to get permission before engaging in a foot chase with a suspect. :crazy:

That is the greatest example yet of Woke Run Amuck.  :confused1:
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Bricktop

Quote from: cc post_id=409129 time=1619201589 user_id=88
Quote from: "Deceptive X Cop" 4 inch blade


1st, not the issue, especially when going after head / neck area



2nd, it was far larger even if measured directly from the obvious & deceptive 45 degree angle shot


This is where people who enter these arguments cause confusion.



A police officer in that situation is compelled to make a risk assessment in a matter of seconds. That risk assessment must take into account all factors, including the nature of any weapon that is involved.



The knife being held by the kid on the bus could probably inflict a lethal injury, but he was nowhere near any possible victim.



The knife being weilded by the 16 year old girl was a kitchen knife and under the right conditions could inflict a lethal wound. But in that case the potential victim was fighting back and protecting herself and kid was hardly adept at using a knife as a lethal weapon. It is worth noting that kitchen knifes are typically thinner and less robust than knives designed as weapons. There were options that could have stopped the situation, one being a solid punch, another being a safe choke hold and yet another, at the range the police was from the offender, a shot to the lower body or legs.



But as I've said above, I do not blame the cop. I suspect he reacted in accordance with his training and established procedures in the American way of policing.  



The point is that before killing someone, you need to exercise a proper risk assessment that non police witnesses do not require. That is the burden placed on officers who choose to exercise lethal force. Get it right, and you're as hero. Get it wrong and you're a murderer.

Frood

:001_rolleyes:



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Blahhhhhh...

Bricktop

Has your Nintendo Switch broken and you feel the need to pester the adults?

Frood

Has your walker broken off a handle and impaled you between the pork hocks?
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Anonymous

Despite bodycam footage showing that the 16 year old was about to stab another person when the police officer shot her, Psaki blamed "systemic racism and implicit bias" before promising more "laws and legislation" for police departments around the country.