Bargaining Rights Decision - FASH

[RW]

Hey Fash, this should make you feel a bit better about bargaining legislation being pushed in Alberta:



Provoking strike was shameful



The B.C. government threw your children under the school bus. A B.C. Supreme Court justice says the B.C. Liberals, under Premier Christy Clark, deliberately tried to provoke the province's teachers into going on strike. It was a campaign so cynical it makes the "quick-win" ethnic-vote ploy seem like a footnote.



The judgment by Justice Susan Griffin was released Monday, and Clark said the next day that the government would likely appeal.



Griffin wrote that the government had interfered with teachers' bargaining rights when it took provisions out of their collective agreements with Bill 28 in 2002. Those provisions mainly related to bargaining class size and composition.



The justice knows this topic well. In 2011, she ruled Bill 28 unconstitutional and gave the government a year to come up with a new one.



The government turned around and passed a law that Griffin wrote was "virtually identical."



The government had talked to the teachers' federation and then argued that those talks made the revised law constitutional. The notion that chatting to someone about voiding their constitutional rights makes it OK to erase those rights sounds like playground arguments.



The proposition certainly didn't cut any ice with Griffin, who ruled that the 2012 bill was also unconstitutional. She ordered bargaining rights restored and told the government to pay the B.C. Teachers' Federation $2 million.



The finding that the government essentially photocopied an unconstitutional law and handed it in again is bad enough, but British Columbians should be even more outraged by Griffin's assessment of the government's behaviour during contract negotiations two years ago.



"Their strategy was to put such pressure on the union that it would provoke a strike by the union. The government representatives thought this would give government the opportunity to gain political support for imposing legislation on the union," Griffin wrote.



- See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/editorial-provoking-strike-was-shameful-1.807013#sthash.9XCcEuOQ.dpuf">http://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/ed ... cEuOQ.dpuf">http://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/editorial-provoking-strike-was-shameful-1.807013#sthash.9XCcEuOQ.dpuf

[Anonymous]

I really hate that big spending twat Redtory, but her hardnosed tactics with our snivel sperpents made me all warm and fuzzy inside. She needs the union vote to win elections, so she will probably offer them all kinds of goodies before the next election.

[RW]

Wouldn't you prefer some proper bargaining instead of wasting shitters of cash on lawyers fees and fines for pushing unconstitutional legislation?

[Anonymous]

Wouldn't you prefer some proper bargaining instead of wasting shitters of cash on lawyers fees and fines for pushing unconstitutional legislation?

Nope, the bills passed. Taxpayers win one for a change over big greedy snivel serpent unions.

[Anonymous]

Hey Fash, this should make you feel a bit better about bargaining legislation being pushed in Alberta:



Provoking strike was shameful



The B.C. government threw your children under the school bus. A B.C. Supreme Court justice says the B.C. Liberals, under Premier Christy Clark, deliberately tried to provoke the province's teachers into going on strike. It was a campaign so cynical it makes the "quick-win" ethnic-vote ploy seem like a footnote.



The judgment by Justice Susan Griffin was released Monday, and Clark said the next day that the government would likely appeal.



Griffin wrote that the government had interfered with teachers' bargaining rights when it took provisions out of their collective agreements with Bill 28 in 2002. Those provisions mainly related to bargaining class size and composition.



The justice knows this topic well. In 2011, she ruled Bill 28 unconstitutional and gave the government a year to come up with a new one.



The government turned around and passed a law that Griffin wrote was "virtually identical."



The government had talked to the teachers' federation and then argued that those talks made the revised law constitutional. The notion that chatting to someone about voiding their constitutional rights makes it OK to erase those rights sounds like playground arguments.



The proposition certainly didn't cut any ice with Griffin, who ruled that the 2012 bill was also unconstitutional. She ordered bargaining rights restored and told the government to pay the B.C. Teachers' Federation $2 million.



The finding that the government essentially photocopied an unconstitutional law and handed it in again is bad enough, but British Columbians should be even more outraged by Griffin's assessment of the government's behaviour during contract negotiations two years ago.



"Their strategy was to put such pressure on the union that it would provoke a strike by the union. The government representatives thought this would give government the opportunity to gain political support for imposing legislation on the union," Griffin wrote.



- See more at: http://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/editorial-provoking-strike-was-shameful-1.807013#sthash.9XCcEuOQ.dpuf">http://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/ed ... cEuOQ.dpuf">http://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/editorial-provoking-strike-was-shameful-1.807013#sthash.9XCcEuOQ.dpuf

That is good Ms. Real Woman, but bills 45 and 46 have already passed and a serious legal challenge now seems unlikely.

[RW]

That's unfortunate.



Shen, as a BCer, listening to you bitch about taxes is laughable.  What are you guys, 10% flat rate provincial income tax with no provincial sales tax?  And you're bitching about tax payers getting ripped off?  Sheesh!

[Anonymous]

That's unfortunate.



Shen, as a BCer, listening to you bitch about taxes is laughable.  What are you guys, 10% flat rate provincial income tax with no provincial sales tax?  And you're bitching about tax payers getting ripped off?  Sheesh!

Never mind Shen Li, she tells me I am working for the devil..

 



How are you tonight Ms. Real Woman?

 :)

[RW]

I see that :)



I'm okay.  How are you? :)

[Anonymous]

I see that :)



I'm okay.  How are you? :)

Yes, I would think everyone sees that..



I am good other than Calgary is back in the middle of the polar vortex..



Tomorrow is Friday and the start of Chinese new year....hooray.

 :)

[Anonymous]

That's unfortunate.



Shen, as a BCer, listening to you bitch about taxes is laughable.  What are you guys, 10% flat rate provincial income tax with no provincial sales tax?  And you're bitching about tax payers getting ripped off?  Sheesh!

My property taxes will rise just under 5% this year and they have gone up every year. Provincial and federal user fees go up regularly. Payroll taxes continue to increase. I am just glad I don't drink or smoke or I would be dinged there too.

[RW]

Okay but what's the average property tax bill?  Provincial payroll taxes are still low comparatively.

[Anonymous]

Okay but what's the average property tax bill?  Provincial payroll taxes are still low comparatively.

Our property taxes only went up about 1% this year in Calgary..



We were very surprised.