I doubt the effectiveness of vaccines-convince me otherwise without stupid memes and videos

[Bricktop]

I have been saddened  to have to recognize that It's not just one side that is political in everything .. and especially vaccines so touted by them have flipped to become poison to the right & libertarian organizations .. very disappointing as it's all politics and not science (which gets distorted to suit).

This is the world we live in. If one side of the Great Divide says the sky is green, the other side will default to red. Consensus is no longer an option.



If black is white, then white is blue. At every level dispute and opposition are the new playing cards. Hatred and adversity are the norm.



This is where the perverted form of democracy we live under has brought us. As I have said elsewhere, either we find a solution or find ourselves members of one extremism or the other. Middle ground will no longer exist.

[Frood]

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[Anonymous]

Here's yesterday's results for past week direct from BC Health itself



I played with an older BC's weekly figures and finally figured how to update it regularly



These are up to date



Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 28 to Nov. 3) Total 3,351 Cases

Not vaccinated: 254.8

Partially vaccinated: 62.3

Fully vaccinated: 27.0



Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 21 to Nov. 3)

Not vaccinated: 56.9

Partially vaccinated: 16.0

Fully vaccinated: 2.9



Now that I have figured how to update site In future I will now be able to do each week instead of replaying the older one

I think I can do it daily now that I have figured how to update it

And this is all the data direct from BC Health - vs. news sites I was using for BC



https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0069-002115">https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0069-002115

But, vaccines are killers.

That is consistently definitive.   ac_smile



While it speaks for BC alone, there is zero logical reason to think it would be different in any other location with similar vaccination levels  

 and similar degree of risk taking. BC is very much opened up in fact.

Further, over time the ratios remain consistent, defying propaganda that claims otherwise.



Speaking of the propaganda, it progressively is becoming more semi-professional looking. I'm noticing sites I used for many years for info have  turned ant-vax and are now promoting low level information .. glomming onto anything that appears to support that vein of thinking.

Seems many of those who so strongly supported Trump's amazing achievements in moving rapidly toward successful vaccines have become anti now.



A classic example is Epoch Times which has done a full-bore 180 now that T is not in power and now seem possessed  / on a mission to dun what they before election supported enthusiastically. Seems they are now on a mission. It turned 180 so fast it's a wonder it didn't break its neck  ac_smile. It's so prolific on its site that I no longer load it, shut off notifications  and will cancel subscription at term end of the very site I promoted here a cpl of years ago

Vaccine has become a political football used by both sides to beat up each other - all sides flipping 180 degrees after election day



Fox who supported T's vaccine efforts 100 per ++++++ have turned 180 of late .. several show stars are now sickeningly antivaxx & anti regulations .. the very same people who backed and praise T's efforts to speed up vaccines .. and in fact, we would not have them yet but for T ... biggest fear monger is the libertarian Carlson who became obsessed with it .. but others are guilty of 180 turnabout also



I have been saddened  to have to recognize that It's not just one side that is political in everything .. and especially vaccines so touted by them have flipped to become poison to the right & libertarian organizations .. very disappointing as it's all politics and not science (which gets distorted to suit).



This why I like raw data like this direct from the source and often post BC Health's data ... before it can be slanted to portray what someone wants it to portray

Seoul mentioned this in a pm.

[Anonymous]

cc is correct. Vaccination has always been politicized, but the sides have reversed since Trump left office. I still subscribe to Epoch even though they along with Fox have done a 180 on vaccines. So has the Dem party and it's media allies too. There is no science on vaccinations. DD and Blazor's opposition to vaccinations is no more based on science than the Biden administrations vaccine mandates for people like myself who have recovered from COVID. Like climate change it's all politics and no science.

[Frood]

:001_rolleyes:

[Anonymous]

:001_rolleyes:

Post some real data and prove Seoul wrong..



That's what he's been asking for in this thread, but none of the anti vaxxers have accepted his challenge.

[Frood]

Watch the videos.... the real data points my way, not yours...



Or don't watch.... idgaf...

[Anonymous]

Watch the videos.... the real data points my way, not yours...



Or don't watch.... idgaf...

Read the thread title. No videos or memes. You can't back up your idiotic anti science claims that vaccines are harmful because there is no data to support your stupidity. None, zero nada. If there was you would have posted it.

[cc]

.......You can't back up your idiotic anti science claims that vaccines are harmful because there is no data to support your stupidity. None, zero nada. If there was you would have posted it.

Are you telling me that bottom feeders in stolen Doctor's white top coats blabbering on are making up their speech?



I'm shocked ... shocked I say!!!

[Anonymous]

.......You can't back up your idiotic anti science claims that vaccines are harmful because there is no data to support your stupidity. None, zero nada. If there was you would have posted it.

Are you telling me that bottom feeders in stolen Doctor's top coats blabbering on are making up their speech?



I'm shocked ... shocked I say!!!

No data yet. They lose.

[cc]

As though protesting (or whatever they were doing) at hospitals so as to block entry to hospitals, insult and harass the heroes who have given their all for 1 1/2 years wasn't enough for these critters ...



we have a local example of their stupidity and self-destructive mindset



https://www.peacearchnews.com/news/incredibly-disheartening-football-league-president-responds-to-anti-vaxxers-at-chilliwack-game/">Anti-vaxxers push past security at 10 year-olds  football game in Chilliwack



'Incredibly disheartening': Football league president responds to anti-vaxxers at Chilliwack game

'A sporting event for 10-year-olds is not the place for a political statement,'



"We feel that a sporting event for 10-year-olds is not the place for a political statement," David Rooney, president of the Valley Community Football League (VCFL) wrote in a statement to The Chilliwack Progress.





[There are no limits on how far these self-centered twatwhaffles will go - and they seem not bright enough (and / or are too obsessed) to figure out how to help their cause vs. how to hurt their cause]

[Anonymous]

As though protesting (or whatever they were doing) at hospitals so as to block entry to hospitals, insult and harass the heroes who have given their all for 1 1/2 years wasn't enough for these critters ...



we have a local example of their stupidity and self-destructive mindset



https://www.peacearchnews.com/news/incredibly-disheartening-football-league-president-responds-to-anti-vaxxers-at-chilliwack-game/">Anti-vaxxers push past security at 10 year-olds  football game in Chilliwack



'Incredibly disheartening': Football league president responds to anti-vaxxers at Chilliwack game

'A sporting event for 10-year-olds is not the place for a political statement,'



"We feel that a sporting event for 10-year-olds is not the place for a political statement," David Rooney, president of the Valley Community Football League (VCFL) wrote in a statement to The Chilliwack Progress.





[There are no limits on how far these self-centered twatwhaffles will go - and they seem not bright enough (and / or are too obsessed) to figure out how to help their cause vs. how to hurt their cause]

I don't agree with any protest that prevents emergency services from doing their jobs..



It doesn't matter if it's hysterical climate extremists or hysterical anti vaxxers.......stop it.

[Frood]

Watch the videos.... the real data points my way, not yours...



Or don't watch.... idgaf...

Read the thread title. No videos or memes. You can't back up your idiotic anti science claims that vaccines are harmful because there is no data to support your stupidity. None, zero nada. If there was you would have posted it.

Ok, Choo Choo Boy.... :001_rolleyes: