The lawless left

[Anonymous]

Jason Kenney Jason Kenney said "I think it creates a context that some people could use to rationalize violence," he said, comparing Suzuki's words to those of former U.S. president Donald Trump widely considered to have helped incite the Jan. 6 Capitol attack in Washington, D.C.

Your premier is calling Suzuki an eco terrorist and using terms like Laurentian elites. I am liking old Kenney again.

[Gaon]

David Suzuki said "there are going to be pipelines blown up if our leaders don't pay attention to what's going on." Sure, he was speaking at an Extinction Rebellion event and they routinely break the law because they can't prevail in free votes. But they are clad in the armour of the Lord, or Gaia, and fully justified by their faith.



As the National Post reported , when asked if he supported bombing pipelines, Suzuki replied, "Of course not." But just in case, "The violence is coming from the authorities, from government, from the RCMP. They're declaring war against those that are protesting." So it's self-defence, à la Andy Capp's "I thought he was going to hit me so I hit him back first."



The idea that metaphorical violence justifies smashing people's stinking faces has an enduring appeal to the viciously virtuous. Like those who storm platforms to assault speakers whose "words are violence." Or the peaceful pipeline protestors on whom the authorities declared war for no better reason than stealing and vandalizing heavy machinery and destroying roads on which some grubby workers depend for oppressive luxuries like food and water.



If you struggle with the notion that sticks and stones are a righteous response to names, you must be a deplorable. And while nobody is entirely innocent here, such logic has typically come from the left: 19th-century anarchists; 20th-century union militants; the Baader-Meinhof gang. And it has too often been justified by the radically chic.



Why, Pierre-Jospeh Proudhon declared that "Property is theft" back in 1840. And he was channeling the Marquis de Sade, whose gruesome Histoire de Juliette explained that "theft is only punished because it violates the right of property; but this right is itself nothing in origin but theft."



So go for it. Swarm a Nordstrom for social justice. And if anyone tries to stop you, well, they've declared war on you so bust their head with a skateboard or something. And when they hit back, blame white supremacists.



The mainstream press who cheer-led for the prosecution, and the activists, politicians and journalists who circulated lies about Rittenhouse are poisoning the well they think they are purifying. For instance this Chicago Sun-Times headline on acquittal day: "Rittenhouse verdict was message to white youth: If you believe Black lives matter, your life means nothing." See, they declared war on us, so ...



The election of Trump was meant to be a warning. Instead it mostly triggered pompous virtue-signalling. And it won't be easy to explain such things to a Canadian environment minister who broke the law with a smug grin, appointed by a prime minister who thinks rules are for chumps.



If you are appalled at the rise of the populist right, please try to remember that ordinary people hate disorder, especially flavoured with hypocrisy and scorn. Given your acute awareness of your mental and moral superiority, surely you can win hearts and minds without cheap shots.



Let alone cheap threats.

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The new left is violent, authoritarian and lawless. They are anarchists not liberals.

I remember there were protesters blocking rail tracks preventing the transport of necessary goods. I don't know if Canadian police intevened.

[Anonymous]

The lawless climate left in Australia.

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[cc]

Moderation does not resist extremism.



The socialist view of the world is that if you're not with us, you're against us. Socialism does not believe in the middle ground.

Yes, that's the M.O. ... us vs them  .. them being "all not with us"

[Anonymous]

Moderation does not resist extremism.



The socialist view of the world is that if you're not with us, you're against us. Socialism does not believe in the middle ground.

Yes, that's the M.O. ... us vs them  .. them being "all not with us"

Progs are not socialists. Not even close. They hate well paid blue collar workers.

[Bricktop]

With great respect, I don't think you fully understand the core beliefs of communism/socialism.



It is true that its essence is based on the destruction of capitalism. In a very general sense, they believe that people can never fully develop to their potential under a capitalist system. Removing the shackles of capitalist oppression would lead to a new age of human achievement and social interaction.



It is NOT about supporting or favouring the "working class". This is a myth.



"Revolutionary socialists believe that a social revolution is necessary to effect structural changes to the socioeconomic structure of society. Among revolutionary socialists there are differences in strategy, theory and the definition of revolution. Orthodox Marxists and left communists take an impossibilist stance, believing that revolution should be spontaneous as a result of contradictions in society due to technological changes in the productive forces. Lenin theorised that under capitalism the workers cannot achieve class consciousness beyond organising into trade unions and making demands of the capitalists. Therefore, Leninists advocate that it is historically necessary for a vanguard of class conscious revolutionaries to take a central role in coordinating the social revolution to overthrow the capitalist state and eventually the institution of the state altogether". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism">//https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism



In essence, what the above guff means is that in order to achieve a socialist revolution, a group or "vanguard" must rise to overthrow the ruling class. Marx and Engels, both living in England, observed that the most oppressed members of British society were the workers employed in the satanic mills under horrendous conditions for a pittance, whilst their capitalist overlords and aristocrats increased their own vast wealth. Inspired by Marx, Lenin formented anger and fury within the Russian "working class" that also suffered under an apathetic monarchy that enriched itself while Russia remained a third world economic basket case.



The "working class" was nothing more than an easy target for Leninists to convert into their communist/socialist vanguard.



However, in western democracies since that time, the "working class" has achieved better pay and working conditions, and much higher levels of inclusion in the political process. It is comfortably affluent and generally satisfied with its relationship with capitalism.



So, the modern socialist realises that inciting the working class is a fool's errand.



But if not the "working class", who shall be the vanguard of the New Revolution? Who is oppressed, disadvantaged, downtrodden and marginalised in today's world, including those who BELIEVE they are oppressed even when they are not?



In America, there is a ready source of dissent and resentment in the non-white population. To that group, add women who are being manipulated and misguided by radical feminism (a MARXIST organisation).



Et voila. Revolutionary cadres, circa 2021!!

[Anonymous]

Bricktop, we have talked about how race has replaced class among Marxist revolutionaries.

[Bricktop]

Yeah, but I'm old and I've been away for a while. And I was commenting on IHJ's lament that socialism ignores the working class.



Anyway, isn't this the Bird Fancier's Forum?



 ac_dunno

[Anonymous]

Yeah, but I'm old and I've been away for a while. And I was commenting on IHJ's lament that socialism ignores the working class.



Anyway, isn't this the Bird Fancier's Forum?



 ac_dunno

Birds are nice.....especially in my living room.

[Bricktop]

No birds for you, lady.

[Thiel]

It's not that today's left id lawless. They think they are above the law.

[Anonymous]

It's not that today's left id lawless. They think they are above the law.

Because they are backed by the rich and powerful.

[Anonymous]

Despite his reputation as Canada's leading environmentalist sage, it's not all that unusual for the 85-year-old Suzuki to say or do things that are insulting, hypocritical or straight-up incorrect.



In a 2015 radio interview, Suzuki said that the mere act of considering the economic impacts of climate change policy was equivalent to defending slavery. So, if you're worried about how higher-priced heating oil will affect low-income families or just wondering how humanity could run global food systems without fossil fuels, you're basically a cheerleader for human bondage. "It's a moral issue. The issue of climate change is not an economic issue," Suzuki said.



He also called economics a "form of brain damage."



Suzuki is usually quick with a "f— off" when encountering a political opponent (such as when he met Vivian Krause , a noted critic of environmental non-profits). But it's a not-uncommon experience for flight attendants, camera crews, photographers and others to be on the receiving end of a similarly surly encounter.



In a 2013 interview with France's L'Express, Suzuki was asked about an anti-immigration bent among the Australian environmental movement. To which he replied , "Oh, I think that Canada is full too! Even if it's the second biggest country in the world, our usable land is reduced."

[Anonymous]

Despite his reputation as Canada's leading environmentalist sage, it's not all that unusual for the 85-year-old Suzuki to say or do things that are insulting, hypocritical or straight-up incorrect.



In a 2015 radio interview, Suzuki said that the mere act of considering the economic impacts of climate change policy was equivalent to defending slavery. So, if you're worried about how higher-priced heating oil will affect low-income families or just wondering how humanity could run global food systems without fossil fuels, you're basically a cheerleader for human bondage. "It's a moral issue. The issue of climate change is not an economic issue," Suzuki said.



He also called economics a "form of brain damage."



Suzuki is usually quick with a "f— off" when encountering a political opponent (such as when he met Vivian Krause , a noted critic of environmental non-profits). But it's a not-uncommon experience for flight attendants, camera crews, photographers and others to be on the receiving end of a similarly surly encounter.



In a 2013 interview with France's L'Express, Suzuki was asked about an anti-immigration bent among the Australian environmental movement. To which he replied , "Oh, I think that Canada is full too! Even if it's the second biggest country in the world, our usable land is reduced."

I met David Suzuki. What an exceptionally rude person.

[Gaon]

Despite his reputation as Canada's leading environmentalist sage, it's not all that unusual for the 85-year-old Suzuki to say or do things that are insulting, hypocritical or straight-up incorrect.



In a 2015 radio interview, Suzuki said that the mere act of considering the economic impacts of climate change policy was equivalent to defending slavery. So, if you're worried about how higher-priced heating oil will affect low-income families or just wondering how humanity could run global food systems without fossil fuels, you're basically a cheerleader for human bondage. "It's a moral issue. The issue of climate change is not an economic issue," Suzuki said.



He also called economics a "form of brain damage."



Suzuki is usually quick with a "f— off" when encountering a political opponent (such as when he met Vivian Krause , a noted critic of environmental non-profits). But it's a not-uncommon experience for flight attendants, camera crews, photographers and others to be on the receiving end of a similarly surly encounter.



In a 2013 interview with France's L'Express, Suzuki was asked about an anti-immigration bent among the Australian environmental movement. To which he replied , "Oh, I think that Canada is full too! Even if it's the second biggest country in the world, our usable land is reduced."

I met David Suzuki. What an exceptionally rude person.

His carbon footprint is enoromous.