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Fossil Fuels are a Hell of a Lot More Sustainable Than Wind and Solar

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Anonymous

Quote from: Fashionista
Quote from: OerdinI was referring to low carbon nonfossil fuel power sources.
I thought natural gas was low carbon?



Someone here posted a link that showed natural gas had a lower carbon footprint and smaller land disturbance per kilowat hour than solar.
It was me and it's true. Over the entire lifecycyle of a power plant, natural gas has lower emissions than solar. Solar is a diffuse source of energy. It takes more resources including land to produce the same amount of power as concentrated sources of energy like natural gas, coal, and nuclear.

Anonymous

Quote from: OerdinRelatively to co or oil, yes, but you will notice the greenie wheelies were even against that.  At least until Russia turned off the taps on the EU and now they are crying.  You can bet the EU now wishes they had not banned franking and made it hard to get drilling permits.  If they had just Mai tanned the same output levels they had in 2000 they wouldn't need Russian imports but they were stupid and now they are paying.  Hell, most of those dumb asses refused to allow LNG port facilities to be made despite the US telling them about their strategic vulnerability for 20+ years.



The Germans even laughed at Trump when he said they were at serious risk to Russian blackmail over natural gas but it turns out Trump was right.
Trump was prophetic. Remember his warning about high gasoline prices if Biden won.

Oerdin

Indeed I do.

Breakfall

Quote from: Dinky Dazza
Quote from: BreakfallI'm older than you and mostly more intelligent. You need to see the obvious..and you've got half your answers unspun..



Older people than me tend to be more brainwashed and kept like mushrooms (fed shit and kept in the dark)...



Older people tend to make the mistake of thinking age means wisdom. It's far from the case however...
I only have 5 or so years on you surely?  :laugh3:

Frood

Quote from: Breakfall
Quote from: Dinky DazzaOlder people than me tend to be more brainwashed and kept like mushrooms (fed shit and kept in the dark)...



Older people tend to make the mistake of thinking age means wisdom. It's far from the case however...
I only have 5 or so years on you surely?  :laugh3:

And you're 5 years closer to being totally feeble minded....  ac_biggrin
Blahhhhhh...

Breakfall

Quote from: Dinky Dazza
Quote from: BreakfallI only have 5 or so years on you surely?  :laugh3:

And you're 5 years closer to being totally feeble minded....  ac_biggrin

Cute...but you clearly know that I'm an artist and a surfer. It's all about the dream baby!  :howdy:

Anonymous

I follow Alex Epstein. The guy is one of the few people talking sense about energy.



The root of our global energy crisis is Green Energy Fascism—the idea that government should have total control over the energy industry (fascism) used for the "green" goal of rapidly eliminating fossil fuels and nuclear.



The solution is Energy Freedom—the idea that individuals should be free to produce and consume energy how they judge best, provided they follow laws protecting everyone from truly harmful emissions and dangerous practices.



There is no inevitability whatsoever to today's energy crisis.



In fact, if we replace Green Energy Fascism with Energy Freedom policies, America can lead the world in producing low-cost, reliable, plentiful, and cleaner energy—enriching ourselves and billions around the world.



The Opportunity



Human beings' knowledge of how to produce energy in a way that is low-cost, reliable, and plentiful has never been greater. And we can do it in ever-cleaner ways.



As the world's leading economy and energy producer, America can lead a global energy renaissance.



The Problem



Even though the world could be in an energy renaissance, it is instead in an energy crisis—with skyrocketing costs and declining reliability around the world.



Europe fears industrial collapse and citizens freezing this winter. Poorer regions fear literal starvation.¹



The Cause



The direct cause of our unnecessary energy crisis is simple: governments around the world have restricted the supply of energy through anti-fossil-fuel, anti-nuclear policies. When demand outstrips supply, energy prices rise—which causes all other prices to rise.



The Root Cause



The reason that governments have been able to get away with anti-fossil-fuel, anti-nuclear policies is that they have used the pretext of climate apocalypse to justify Green Energy Fascism—total government control over the energy industry to achieve "green" goals.



Today's energy policy is fascist.



Economically, "fascism" means: unlimited control of govt over private industry.



Our leaders exercise such control by using mandates, subsidies, prohibitions, and ESG rules to dictate the behavior of energy producers and energy consumers.



Using energy fascism to achieve "green" goals makes a terrible policy far worse.



"Green" = "minimal impact." Since all energy impacts nature, all energy can be opposed as not "green."



In practice, "green" energy means, disastrously: oppose everything but unreliable solar and wind.



The pretext of Green Energy Fascism is "climate emergency." But:



While humans impact climate, there is no emergency; in fact we're safer than ever from climate.



Trying to lower CO2 emissions by favoring unreliable solar/wind and punishing nuclear is wildly ineffective.



While "climate change"—humans impacting climate—is real, "climate emergency" is not. The world is slowly becoming warmer—at a cold point in geological history, when many more people die of cold than of heat. This doesn't at all justify rapidly restricting global fossil fuel use.²



Fossil fuels actually overall make us far safer from climate by providing low-cost energy for the amazing machines that protect us against storms, protect us against extreme temperatures, and alleviate drought. Climate disaster deaths have decreased 98% over the last century.³

Anonymous



The only practical way to lower CO2 emissions long-term is to make low-carbon energy globally cost-competitive.



Green Energy Fascism policies of dictating the energy industry in favor of unreliables against nuclear—the most proven low-carbon form of energy—are unjustifiable.



Green Energy Fascism not only ruins energy via dictatorial, anti-fossil-fuel/anti-nuclear control of industry, but also via "green" hostility to all development. Every aspect of energy is held back by "green" policies—including the massive mining and development solar and wind require.⁴



America and the world need an energy policy that ensures plenty of fossil fuel energy and fosters cost-competitive low-carbon alternatives like nuclear—making energy increasingly lower-cost, more reliable, more plentiful, cleaner, and lower-carbon.



That policy is Energy Freedom.



The Energy Freedom Solution



America can enrich itself and empower billions with policies that free human ingenuity to produce energy in as low-cost, reliable, plentiful, and clean way as possible—while protecting us against harmful emissions and dangerous practices.



The 5 steps to Energy Freedom are:



1. Liberate responsible development



2. End preferences for unreliable electricity



3. Reform air/water emissions standards to incorporate cost-benefit analysis



4. Reduce long-term CO2 emissions via liberating innovation



5. Decriminalize nuclear

Anonymous

1. Liberate responsible energy development



Anti-development policies prevent every form of energy from reaching its potential—from natural gas to nuclear to solar. Liberating responsible development throughout America will create unprecedented energy abundance and progress.



2. End preferences for unreliable electricity



Today's electric grids are being ruined by systemic preferences for unreliable electricity, which causes prices to rise and reliability to decline.



Eliminating them can help make America a leader in low-cost, reliable electricity.⁵



3. Reform air/water emissions standards based on proper cost-benefit analysis.



Today's Environmental Protection Agency does huge harm to prosperity and health via energy-crippling emissions standards that fail any reasonable cost-benefit analysis.



Such analysis will lead to more energy and better health.



4. Reduce CO2 emissions long-term through liberating innovation, not punishing America.



The only reasonable way to reduce CO2 emissions long-term is innovation that makes low-carbon energy globally cost-competitive. Punishing US emissions is senseless self-destruction.



5. Decriminalize nuclear energy



The overregulation of low-carbon nuclear verges on criminalization, making nuclear costs 10X higher than they need to be. Decriminalizing nuclear, including radical reform of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and Environmental Protection Agency, will make energy far cheaper, safer, and cleaner.⁶



Despite the fact that Green Energy Fascism policies are causing a global crisis, our leaders just passed a bill that should be called the Green Energy Fascism Act because it increased government control over energy, further punished fossil fuels, and did nothing to liberate nuclear.⁷



This Fall, Congressional and gubernatorial candidates have the opportunity to do the right thing and win over voters by rejecting this Administration and Congress's green energy fascism, and embracing Energy Freedom.



Americans rightly want cheap energy and prosperity back.



If you are a candidate/official who wants to incorporate Energy Freedom policies in your platform, please feel free to reach out to me (alex at alexepstein dot com). I regularly help dozens of offices with messaging and policy, free of charge, and am always happy to help pro-freedom candidates from any party.

Anonymous

Europe, along with the UK, is scrambling to find supplies of natural gas — while costs to consumers are skyrocketing — to have sufficient reserves just to get through this winter. Wind and solar cannot do what natural gas does. And former German Chancellor, Angela Merkel's 's disastrous "Energiewende" (energy transition) pledge to phase out all nuclear power in Germany following the meltdown of the Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan in 2011.



Merkel's decision made no sense given its green energy policies because (a) nuclear power doesn't emit greenhouse gases and (b) the Fukushima meltdown occurred because of the combination of an earthquake and tsunami, irrelevant in Germany.



In Canada, Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland is an advocate of rapidly transitioning away from fossil fuels to green energy as "an insurance policy against higher energy prices" — the opposite of what her government's policies are actually doing. She supports Canada providing Europe with liquid natural gas (LNG) to help make up for Putin curtailing its supply.



But that will take years to implement, if it ever happens, because Canada lacks the infrastructure to get its landlocked natural gas resources in Alberta and Saskatchewan to tidewater and from there to global markets.



All we can do is sell more of it to the U.S., at huge discounts, and leave it to the Americans to ship it to Europe in tankers.



What has happened in Europe is actually a warning to Canadians about the risks of pursuing green energy, while ignoring energy security. The question is, will our government heed it?

Frood

It's intentional....



....a great culling of the poor and weak.
Blahhhhhh...

Oerdin

The sad thing is for 20 years leftists and eventually even so called conservatives in Europe blocked all drilling claiming they had to cripple do.estic production to "go green" which really just meant importing and being dependent.

Anonymous

Quote from: OerdinThe sad thing is for 20 years leftists and eventually even so called conservatives in Europe blocked all drilling claiming they had to cripple do.estic production to "go green" which really just meant importing and being dependent.
Ya, Johnson and Merkel drank the Kool Aid.

Frood

I wonder how many of us late 40 somethings and beyond will be living in 5-10 years from now.



Those of us that didn't take the jab will be marginalised in new ways.... through taxes, through legislation, through regulations that are so STUPID that saying they're STUPID is STUPID to say out loud....



Billions will be slowly dying yet anybody that points out why will be legally attacked... or worse, lynched.



Head for the hills, kids....
Blahhhhhh...

Anonymous

Quote from: Dinky DazzaI wonder how many of us late 40 somethings and beyond will be living in 5-10 years from now.



Those of us that didn't take the jab will be marginalised in new ways.... through taxes, through legislation, through regulations that are so STUPID that saying they're STUPID is STUPID to say out loud....



Billions will be slowly dying yet anybody that points out why will be legally attacked... or worse, lynched.



Head for the hills, kids....
Wrong thread.