Fossil Fuels are a Hell of a Lot More Sustainable Than Wind and Solar

[Anonymous]

No....no winner here. Humanity is a plague. And breeds too many halfwits.





https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/nonrenewable-resources



Nonrenewable Resources

Nonrenewable energy resources include coal, natural gas, oil, and nuclear energy. Once these resources are used up, they cannot be replaced, which is a major problem for humanity as we are currently dependent on them to supply most of our energy needs.

Obviously, NatGeo is being disingenupus.



Land is not renewable. Diffuse sources of energy like wind, and solar use a lot of require a lot more of it than concentrated energy sources like natural gas, nuclear or hydro-electric. And that doesn't include the massive amounts of land required to dispose of batteries, old wind turbines.



Also, wind and solar require vast amounts of mined metals and minerals that are dwindling fast. China – which produces around 90% of the world's rare earth metals – claims that its mines might run dry in just 15-20 years. Likewise, if demand continues for indium, some say it will be gone in about 10 years; platinum in 15 years; and silver in 20 years. Looking farther into the future, other sources claim that things like aluminum might run dry in about 80 years.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20140314-the-worlds-scarcest-material



On the other hand, Canada alone could suppy the entire world for one hundred years based on current economically viable recoverable barrels of oil. New technplogies would make the harder to get barrels affordable. And that doesn't include this country's vast resources of natural gas.



So the renewabe argument is totally dishonest. There is no such animal as renewable energy. It's just that diffuse energy sources like wind and solar are the LEAST sustainable of all energy sources. And they still require back up by natural gas. It makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Trying to reduce C02 emissions is so expensive. The cost far outweighs any possible benefit.



Bjorn Lomborg is the president of the Copenhagen Consensus think tank and one of the world's leading experts on the impacts of climate change policy.

[Breakfall]

No....no winner here. Humanity is a plague. And breeds too many halfwits.





https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/nonrenewable-resources



Nonrenewable Resources

Nonrenewable energy resources include coal, natural gas, oil, and nuclear energy. Once these resources are used up, they cannot be replaced, which is a major problem for humanity as we are currently dependent on them to supply most of our energy needs.

Obviously, NatGeo is being disingenupus.



Land is not renewable. Diffuse sources of energy like wind, and solar use a lot of require a lot more of it than concentrated energy sources like natural gas, nuclear or hydro-electric. And that doesn't include the massive amounts of land required to dispose of batteries, old wind turbines.



Also, wind and solar require vast amounts of mined metals and minerals that are dwindling fast. China – which produces around 90% of the world's rare earth metals – claims that its mines might run dry in just 15-20 years. Likewise, if demand continues for indium, some say it will be gone in about 10 years; platinum in 15 years; and silver in 20 years. Looking farther into the future, other sources claim that things like aluminum might run dry in about 80 years.

SoleBro...let's have a conversation without all the bias links and opinions. The burning of fossil fuels is the main contributor towards global emissions as well as contributing to global warming. As a consequence, acid rain and pollution has killed off numerous flora and fauna on our planet. We're choking the life out of the planet.



You can refer to links that have fed you bullshit, but if we are to rationally communicate and debate on the subject...let's keep it real.

[Anonymous]

Bonkerfist, you might as well throw in the towel. The guy has studied the issue of climate alarmism as much as cc has islam. He know what he is talking about. And that Danish fruit Bjorn Lomborg is the climate google guy.



Let's face it, nobody really believes climate change is an existential threat. If they did they would not be flying armies of progs to swag places for useless CO2 burning pow wows. It's all about the middle class inn developed countries paying for the rich in developed and developing countries, End of. Enjoy your 4X4 before your new prog government makes it illegal for the working classes to own them.

[Lokmar]

EnviroMENTALism is like any other movement or group that fights for relevancy after its usefulness has passed. We've reduced particulate and NOX emissions from diesel by 95% or more since 1990. We've reduced NOX and other hydrocarbon emissions from gas engines by more than 90%. The job is DONE!!! The wild and baseless idea that CO2 is a pollutant only came about AFTER we solved the pollution problem! EnvironMENTALism has now become a scam as it fights for its own survival in the face of obsolescence.

[caskur]

EnviroMENTALism is like any other movement or group that fights for relevancy after its usefulness has passed. We've reduced particulate and NOX emissions from diesel by 95% or more since 1990. We've reduced NOX and other hydrocarbon emissions from gas engines by more than 90%. The job is DONE!!! The wild and baseless idea that CO2 is a pollutant only came about AFTER we solved the pollution problem! EnvironMENTALism has now become a scam as it fights for its own survival in the face of obsolescence.

lokmar you're alive...   We thought you were dead!!! 



I am glad you have been resurrected!!!

[Anonymous]

EnviroMENTALism is like any other movement or group that fights for relevancy after its usefulness has passed. We've reduced particulate and NOX emissions from diesel by 95% or more since 1990. We've reduced NOX and other hydrocarbon emissions from gas engines by more than 90%. The job is DONE!!! The wild and baseless idea that CO2 is a pollutant only came about AFTER we solved the pollution problem! EnvironMENTALism has now become a scam as it fights for its own survival in the face of obsolescence.

I beieve he's just feeling a little under the weather.

[caskur]

Obviously, NatGeo is being disingenupus.



Land is not renewable. Diffuse sources of energy like wind, and solar use a lot of require a lot more of it than concentrated energy sources like natural gas, nuclear or hydro-electric. And that doesn't include the massive amounts of land required to dispose of batteries, old wind turbines.



Also, wind and solar require vast amounts of mined metals and minerals that are dwindling fast. China – which produces around 90% of the world's rare earth metals – claims that its mines might run dry in just 15-20 years. Likewise, if demand continues for indium, some say it will be gone in about 10 years; platinum in 15 years; and silver in 20 years. Looking farther into the future, other sources claim that things like aluminum might run dry in about 80 years.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20140314-the-worlds-scarcest-material



On the other hand, Canada alone could suppy the entire world for one hundred years based on current economically viable recoverable barrels of oil. New technplogies would make the harder to get barrels affordable. And that doesn't include this country's vast resources of natural gas.



So the renewabe argument is totally dishonest. There is no such animal as renewable energy. It's just that diffuse energy sources like wind and solar are the LEAST sustainable of all energy sources. And they still require back up by natural gas. It makes no sense.

SoleBro...let's have a conversation without all the bias links and opinions. The burning of fossil fuels is the main contributor towards global emissions as well as contributing to global warming. As a consequence, acid rain and pollution has killed off numerous flora and fauna on our planet. We're choking the life out of the planet.



You can refer to links that have fed you bullshit, but if we are to rationally communicate and debate on the subject...let's keep it real.

no it isn't... reducing the planets carbon sinking trees down to 15% coverage is the cause of carbon rising... HUMANS have done that clearing virgin habitat, the forests. Even if you stopped burning fossil fuel tomorrow its toooooo late because the active volcanoes are spewing CO2 into the atmosphere with 85% less trees to soak it up.

[Anonymous]

no it isn't... reducing the planets carbon sinking trees down to 15% coverage is the cause of carbon rising... HUMANS have done that clearing virgin habitat, the forests. Even if you stopped burning fossil fuel tomorrow its toooooo late because the active volcanoes are spewing CO2 into the atmosphere with 85% less trees to soak it up.

Even the most extreme proponents of alarmism like Gavin Schmidt,  head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies has acknowledged that if no C02 was emitted, including what humans emit naturally, the climate could continue to warm for centuries if it ever stopped warming. The anti-fossils is all pain for no gain.

[caskur]

no it isn't... reducing the planets carbon sinking trees down to 15% coverage is the cause of carbon rising... HUMANS have done that clearing virgin habitat, the forests. Even if you stopped burning fossil fuel tomorrow its toooooo late because the active volcanoes are spewing CO2 into the atmosphere with 85% less trees to soak it up.

Even the most extreme alarmist proponents of alarmism like Gavin Schmidt,  head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies has acknowledged that if no C02 was emitted, including what humans emit naturally, the climate could continue to warm for centuries if it ever stopped warming. The anti-fossils is all pain for no gain.

They are all full of shit. Just laugh at them.

[Lokmar]

EnviroMENTALism is like any other movement or group that fights for relevancy after its usefulness has passed. We've reduced particulate and NOX emissions from diesel by 95% or more since 1990. We've reduced NOX and other hydrocarbon emissions from gas engines by more than 90%. The job is DONE!!! The wild and baseless idea that CO2 is a pollutant only came about AFTER we solved the pollution problem! EnvironMENTALism has now become a scam as it fights for its own survival in the face of obsolescence.

Thanks Cas!!!!  ac_drinks

[Anonymous]

Even the most extreme alarmist proponents of alarmism like Gavin Schmidt,  head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies has acknowledged that if no C02 was emitted, including what humans emit naturally, the climate could continue to warm for centuries if it ever stopped warming. The anti-fossils is all pain for no gain.

 They are all full of shit. Just laugh at them.

I would do that if it was not for the fact they are going to take away our way of life and our liberties.

[caskur]

They are all full of shit. Just laugh at them.

I would do that if it was not for the fact they are going to take away our way of life and our liberties.

no they aren't... stop fearing. develop a brave heart.

[Anonymous]

I would do that if it was not for the fact they are going to take away our way of life and our liberties.

 no they aren't... stop fearing. develop a brave heart.

Justin Trudeau alone has mandated that no new ICE vehicles be sold in Canada after January 1, 2035. That is one man dictating what consumers may buy. You never miss liberty until it has been taken away.



While we are on the subject of fossils, what is current price of a litre of petrol where you live? I paid $2.18.9 on Sunday.

[Anonymous]

It's showing 1.86.9 at Co-OP.