How many days,weeks, months before a war with Russia happens?

[Anonymous]

[media]

[Anonymous]

The West promised back in 1990 that NATO would expand "not an inch to the east."

That was former Secretary of State james Baker who said that.

He was far from being the only Western government official to offer assurances to the Russians that NATO would not expand East.



German Foreign Minister Hans Dietrich Genscher met with British Foreign Minister Douglas Hurd, the British record showed Genscher saying, "The Russians must have some assurance that if, for example, the Polish Government left the Warsaw Pact one day, they would not join NATO the next."

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book ... ders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

The Russians have been lied to and bullied by the United States for decades. Enough is enough.

[Anonymous]

Even the Pentagon has reluctantly admitted that Russia has improved it's command and control as well as logistics.

[Anonymous]

Even the libtard Guardian admitted the US bears responsibility for instigating this conflict.

Thinking through the Ukraine crisis – the causes

"It would be extraordinarily difficult to expand Nato eastward without that action's being viewed by Russia as unfriendly. Even the most modest schemes would bring the alliance to the borders of the old Soviet Union. Some of the more ambitious versions would have the alliance virtually surround the Russian Federation itself." I wrote those words in 1994, in my book Beyond Nato: Staying Out of Europe's Wars, at a time when expansion proposals merely constituted occasional speculation in foreign policy seminars in New York and Washington. I added that expansion "would constitute a needless provocation of Russia".



What was not publicly known at the time was that Bill Clinton's administration had already made the fateful decision the previous year to push for including some former Warsaw Pact countries in Nato. The administration would soon propose inviting Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary to become members, and the US Senate approved adding those countries to the North Atlantic Treaty in 1998. It would be the first of several waves of membership expansion.



Even that first stage provoked Russian opposition and anger. In her memoir, Madeleine Albright, Clinton's secretary of state, concedes that "[Russian president Boris] Yeltsin and his countrymen were strongly opposed to enlargement, seeing it as a strategy for exploiting their vulnerability and moving Europe's dividing line to the east, leaving them isolated."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ia-ukraine">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine

[Anonymous]

Russia's efforts to cooperate with the U.S. in making peace have been rejected under the excuse of "Russia's aggression against Ukraine." However, America is absolutely not interested in Ukraine. It is interested in Russia.



Ex-secretary-of-state Madeleine Albright stated that neither the Far North nor Siberia belongs to Russia."



"The declaration of former Secretary of State Ms Albright was expressed as follows: 'There cannot be talk of world fairness as long as a territory such as Siberia is owned by one country.'"

[Thiel]

The West promised back in 1990 that NATO would expand "not an inch to the east."

That was former Secretary of State james Baker who said that.

He was far from being the only Western government official to offer assurances to the Russians that NATO would not expand East.



German Foreign Minister Hans Dietrich Genscher met with British Foreign Minister Douglas Hurd, the British record showed Genscher saying, "The Russians must have some assurance that if, for example, the Polish Government left the Warsaw Pact one day, they would not join NATO the next."

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book ... ders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

The United States and NATO have broken every assurance they have given Russia. I hate this war, and I'm sure Russia does too, but they have to defend themselves from further NATO threats.

[Anonymous]

The West promised back in 1990 that NATO would expand "not an inch to the east."

That was former Secretary of State james Baker who said that.

He was far from being the only Western government official to offer assurances to the Russians that NATO would not expand East.



German Foreign Minister Hans Dietrich Genscher met with British Foreign Minister Douglas Hurd, the British record showed Genscher saying, "The Russians must have some assurance that if, for example, the Polish Government left the Warsaw Pact one day, they would not join NATO the next."

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book ... ders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

The United States and NATO have broken every assurance they have given Russia. I hate this war, and I'm sure Russia does too, but they have to defend themselves from further NATO threats.

I don't want this war or any other, but I'm not sure certain interests in the USA feel the same.

[Frood]

They're elite psychopaths who are on the bunker guest lists...

[Thiel]

The West promised back in 1990 that NATO would expand "not an inch to the east."

That was former Secretary of State james Baker who said that.

He was far from being the only Western government official to offer assurances to the Russians that NATO would not expand East.



German Foreign Minister Hans Dietrich Genscher met with British Foreign Minister Douglas Hurd, the British record showed Genscher saying, "The Russians must have some assurance that if, for example, the Polish Government left the Warsaw Pact one day, they would not join NATO the next."

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book ... ders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

The United States and NATO have broken every assurance they have given Russia. I hate this war, and I'm sure Russia does too, but they have to defend themselves from further NATO threats.

I don't want this war or any other, but I'm not sure certain interests in the USA feel the same.

I assume you mean military industrial corporate interests?

[Anonymous]

That was former Secretary of State james Baker who said that.

He was far from being the only Western government official to offer assurances to the Russians that NATO would not expand East.



German Foreign Minister Hans Dietrich Genscher met with British Foreign Minister Douglas Hurd, the British record showed Genscher saying, "The Russians must have some assurance that if, for example, the Polish Government left the Warsaw Pact one day, they would not join NATO the next."

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book ... ders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

The United States and NATO have broken every assurance they have given Russia. I hate this war, and I'm sure Russia does too, but they have to defend themselves from further NATO threats.

I don't want this war or any other, but I'm not sure certain interests in the USA feel the same.

I assume you mean military industrial corporate interests?

I know I sure as fuck do. Those companies own both political parties save the Trump wing of the GOP.

[Thiel]

He was far from being the only Western government official to offer assurances to the Russians that NATO would not expand East.



German Foreign Minister Hans Dietrich Genscher met with British Foreign Minister Douglas Hurd, the British record showed Genscher saying, "The Russians must have some assurance that if, for example, the Polish Government left the Warsaw Pact one day, they would not join NATO the next."

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book ... ders-early">https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

The United States and NATO have broken every assurance they have given Russia. I hate this war, and I'm sure Russia does too, but they have to defend themselves from further NATO threats.

I don't want this war or any other, but I'm not sure certain interests in the USA feel the same.

I assume you mean military industrial corporate interests?

I know I sure as fuck do. Those companies own both political parties save the Trump wing of the GOP.

That is one of the worst aspects about Washington. Trump's administration scared them.

[Anonymous]

That is one of the worst aspects about Washington. Trump's administration scared them.

This war wouldn't have happened if Trump was still president. He wasn't dumb enough or sleazy enough to offer NATO membership and US weaponry to a country beside Russia his son had dubious financial interests with while in Poland.

[Frood]

It's amazing how the war is dividing people of different and similar persuasions. Some of the so called conservatives are the worst for it. The anti Russia campaign over the decades has been highly effective.

[Anonymous]

The anti Russia campaign over the decades has been highly effective.

Very effective. It doesn't matter Dem or GOP either(except for the party of Trump).



Three decades of lies, bullying and provoking wars in the former Yugoslavia and Russia. All for profit.

[Anonymous]

That is one of the worst aspects about Washington. Trump's administration scared them.

This war wouldn't have happened if Trump was still president. He wasn't dumb enough or sleazy enough to offer NATO membership and US weaponry to a country beside Russia his son had dubious financial interests with while in Poland.

This is on Jim Crow Joe.