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How many days,weeks, months before a war with Russia happens?

Started by Frood, December 18, 2021, 08:47:28 PM

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Anonymous

Germany needs to pull it's head out of it's ass on energy.

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Oliver Clotheshoffe

No sense on bombing the hell out of a place if you intend to take possession of it, it's just more stuff you'd have to clean up. But Putin does seem to be getting bogged down though.
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Anonymous

Quote from: "Oliver Clotheshoffe" post_id=443043 time=1646879508 user_id=3349
No sense on bombing the hell out of a place if you intend to take possession of it, it's just more stuff you'd have to clean up. But Putin does seem to be getting bogged down though.

They don't intend to take possession of Ukraine. They do not want the infrastructure destroyed either.

cc

Quote from: Herman post_id=443045 time=1646879680 user_id=1689
They don't intend to take possession of Ukraine. They do not want the infrastructure destroyed either.

I respect & I'm interested in your takes on it but don't understand what you just said



1. "They don't intend to take possession of Ukraine. " - What do they intend??



2. "They do not want the infrastructure destroyed either."  - But they are doing that



3. From your take on it, what do they intend to achieve as end-result?
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=443051 time=1646880958 user_id=88
Quote from: Herman post_id=443045 time=1646879680 user_id=1689
They don't intend to take possession of Ukraine. They do not want the infrastructure destroyed either.

I respect & I'm interested in your takes on it but don't understand what you just said



1. "They don't intend to take possession of Ukraine. " - What do they intend??



2. "They do not want the infrastructure destroyed either."  - But they are doing that



3. From your take on it, what do they intend to achieve as end-result?

!. They aint going to rebuild the USSR or czarist Russia. There will be a new Uke president who will not do the West's bidding. Kind of like the relationship between Russia and Belarus or Russia and Kazakhstan.

2. I disagree. Moscow has held back in order to preserve bridges, airports, roads and so on.

3. See number 1.

cc

Thanks Herm. I get it now
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=443057 time=1646882206 user_id=1689
Quote from: cc post_id=443051 time=1646880958 user_id=88
Quote from: Herman post_id=443045 time=1646879680 user_id=1689
They don't intend to take possession of Ukraine. They do not want the infrastructure destroyed either.

I respect & I'm interested in your takes on it but don't understand what you just said



1. "They don't intend to take possession of Ukraine. " - What do they intend??



2. "They do not want the infrastructure destroyed either."  - But they are doing that



3. From your take on it, what do they intend to achieve as end-result?

!. They aint going to rebuild the USSR or czarist Russia. There will be a new Uke president who will not do the West's bidding. Kind of like the relationship between Russia and Belarus or Russia and Kazakhstan.

2. I disagree. Moscow has held back in order to preserve bridges, airports, roads and so on.

3. See number 1.

I believe it would be a lot easier to keep the Ukraine in Moscow's sphere of influence if Moscow had a stronger economy. They cannot offer the incentives to stay in their orbit the way NATO or the EU can.

Anonymous

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=443059 time=1646882546 user_id=114
I believe it would be a lot easier to keep the Ukraine in Moscow's sphere of influence if Moscow had a stronger economy. They cannot offer the incentives to stay in their orbit the way NATO or the EU can.

Definitely. Ukrainians prefer membership in the EU over NATO. The reason is simple-goodies Brussels can offer that Moscow cannot. So ya, Russia and Ukraine should have focused on growth.



I don't want the Ukraine joining the EU, but NATO is totally unacceptable. I want the Slavic culture to survive. It's hard to do that with meddling from Brussels. Although Poland is putting up a hell of a fight.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=443060 time=1646883594 user_id=1689
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=443059 time=1646882546 user_id=114
I believe it would be a lot easier to keep the Ukraine in Moscow's sphere of influence if Moscow had a stronger economy. They cannot offer the incentives to stay in their orbit the way NATO or the EU can.

Definitely. Ukrainians prefer membership in the EU over NATO. The reason is simple-goodies Brussels can offer that Moscow cannot. So ya, Russia and Ukraine should have focused on growth.



I don't want the Ukraine joining the EU, but NATO is totally unacceptable. I want the Slavic culture to survive. It's hard to do that with meddling from Brussels. Although Poland is putting up a hell of a fight.

It seems those former communist countries that joined the EU are always at odds with Brussels. Immigration is one of the big differences of opinion, but there are others too.

Anonymous

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1494981580468621313">https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status ... 0468621313">https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1494981580468621313


Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=443063 time=1646886131 user_id=1689
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1494981580468621313">https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status ... 0468621313">https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1494981580468621313

It wasn't that long ago the West considered the leader of Ukraine a corrupt thug. Fuck, we're getting fed a lot of horseshit.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=443064 time=1646886589 user_id=1689
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6300182787001#sp=show-clips">https://video.foxnews.com/v/6300182787001#sp=show-clips

I read about this.

Bricktop

Quote from: Herman post_id=443063 time=1646886131 user_id=1689
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1494981580468621313">https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status ... 0468621313">https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1494981580468621313


I love that.



An American claiming another nation is NOT a democracy because of political corruption and autocracy.



Americans should keep their opinions of other people's form of democratic management to themselves, at least until they clean up the corruption, prejudices and shadowy practices of their own "government".



Fucking idiot.

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=443074 time=1646891557 user_id=1560
Quote from: Herman post_id=443063 time=1646886131 user_id=1689
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1494981580468621313">https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status ... 0468621313">https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1494981580468621313


I love that.



An American claiming another nation is NOT a democracy because of political corruption and autocracy.



Americans should keep their opinions of other people's form of democratic management to themselves, at least until they clean up the corruption, prejudices and shadowy practices of their own "government".



Fucking idiot.

Tulsiis exposing the hypocrisy. Ukraine has never really been a democracy and the West accepted that. Suddenly Ukraine is a democracy and Zelenskyy a model leader. It's all bullshit.