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Rex Murphy: How are Alberta and Quebec treated differently? Let me count the ways

Started by cc, December 17, 2021, 12:23:09 PM

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Quote from: seoulbro post_id=431297 time=1639878156 user_id=114
Quote from: cc post_id=431293 time=1639876995 user_id=88
If that is so, remember what the Feds have done to provincial natural assets here forcing them to leave the assets in the ground so long as begrudging  unity prevails



Yes, Brick knows more of the lay of the land

Bills C-48 and C-69 are basically Alberta can't develop it's resources bills. We are forcing that province into poverty or to secede. Ontarians would never tolerate Ottawa undermining us like that.

Saskatchewan was producing close to one million barrels of oil a day. We can't get market prices for our oil either since Justine killed Energy East. We are fed up with Ottawa too.

Bricktop

Quote from: seoulbro post_id=431291 time=1639876714 user_id=114


I thought Western Australia had vast mineral wealth and unlike Canada, it's development is not being blocked. Perhaps Bricktop will enlighten us(me).


Western Australia has vast mineral deposits, including gold and diamonds.



But 90% of its land is uninhabitable beyond scattered cattle stations.



It generates enormous wealth for the nation through mineral exports, and its citizens often resent that fact. They forget that the Australian Commonwealth provides financial and administrative services that WA would struggle to implement, including military, border control, transport controls and infrastructure grants.



Western Australians also forget that mineral exports are relatively new to their economy. Before they found the deposits and a market for them, Western Australia was utterly dependent on the other States for revenue. And mineral sales are capricious. If China suddenly decides it doesn't want Australian iron, Western Australia will be the worst hit of all States.



WA's biggest problem is that it is so remote from the rest of Australia, because most of it is crammed up against the western coastal areas. Because of that, it forgets that it is part of Australia sometimes.

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431411 time=1639905632 user_id=1560
Quote from: seoulbro post_id=431291 time=1639876714 user_id=114


I thought Western Australia had vast mineral wealth and unlike Canada, it's development is not being blocked. Perhaps Bricktop will enlighten us(me).


Western Australia has vast mineral deposits, including gold and diamonds.



But 90% of its land is uninhabitable beyond scattered cattle stations.



It generates enormous wealth for the nation through mineral exports, and its citizens often resent that fact. They forget that the Australian Commonwealth provides financial and administrative services that WA would struggle to implement, including military, border control, transport controls and infrastructure grants.



Western Australians also forget that mineral exports are relatively new to their economy. Before they found the deposits and a market for them, Western Australia was utterly dependent on the other States for revenue. And mineral sales are capricious. If China suddenly decides it doesn't want Australian iron, Western Australia will be the worst hit of all States.



WA's biggest problem is that it is so remote from the rest of Australia, because most of it is crammed up against the western coastal areas. Because of that, it forgets that it is part of Australia sometimes.

At least Western Australia is allowed to develop their resources..



Justin Trudeau won't allow Alberta to do the same.

Bricktop

Resource management is a State based issue. That does not always work well for the other States.



Either we are a single nation where ALL wealth is distributed equally, or we are not. States growing rich while others struggle is not the sign of a healthy nation.

Anonymous

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431514 time=1639978327 user_id=1560
Resource management is a State based issue. That does not always work well for the other States.



Either we are a single nation where ALL wealth is distributed equally, or we are not. States growing rich while others struggle is not the sign of a healthy nation.

It is a provincial area of responsibility here too. But, that wanker Justine keeps blocking infrastructure, ie pipelines that landlocked Alberta and Saskatchewan need to get our resources to international markets and better prices.

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=431517 time=1639978753 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431514 time=1639978327 user_id=1560
Resource management is a State based issue. That does not always work well for the other States.



Either we are a single nation where ALL wealth is distributed equally, or we are not. States growing rich while others struggle is not the sign of a healthy nation.

It is a provincial area of responsibility here too. But, that wanker Justine keeps blocking infrastructure, ie pipelines that landlocked Alberta and Saskatchewan need to get our resources to international markets and better prices.

Strange he doesn't block imports of foreign oil that we don't need..



They're even exempt from his carbon tax.

cc

Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431514 time=1639978327 user_id=1560
Resource management is a State based issue. That does not always work well for the other States.



Either we are a single nation where ALL wealth is distributed equally, or we are not. States growing rich while others struggle is not the sign of a healthy nation.

Like everything else, manufacturing,  employment, infrastructure, whatever, for development is local .. as per the natural order of all things



There will be some spillover and Federal tax monies that help the country .. not sure how else it could work  ... when it was allowed to
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: Herman post_id=431517 time=1639978753 user_id=1689
Quote from: Bricktop post_id=431514 time=1639978327 user_id=1560
Resource management is a State based issue. That does not always work well for the other States.



Either we are a single nation where ALL wealth is distributed equally, or we are not. States growing rich while others struggle is not the sign of a healthy nation.

It is a provincial area of responsibility here too. But, that wanker Justine keeps blocking infrastructure, ie pipelines that landlocked Alberta and Saskatchewan need to get our resources to international markets and better prices.

The Trudeaus, father and son, have both pushed the limits of federal intrusion into areas of provincial jurisdiction.

cc

Agree. Both have been extremely detrimental to Canadian stability, equality and maturity as a country



Daddy was dangerous because he was so very smart and clever. ..  Sonny is dangerous because he is so stupid



Justine certainly has mainly  his mother's genes
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

The fiscal balance — that's how much money Alberta sends out of province in taxes, compared to what it gets back in transfer payments — is heavily skewed against Alberta, largely because it's such a wealthy province. Between 2010 and 2018, Albertans contributed about $5,000 per person, while Quebecers received $1,979 per person, on average. Yet it was Quebecers who made a show of protesting TransCanada's Energy East pipeline that would have brought Alberta's oil from Hardisty, Alta., to Saint John, N.B. When TransCanada, now TC Energy, gave up on the Energy East project in 2017, it cited regulatory hurdles, which the Liberal government had made, in making the decision. The Trudeau government, in contrast, claimed it was a business decision based on changing markets.

cc

Canadians, well me for sure, can never be and feel truly Canadian until this being stripped of money that is simply given to Quebec ends
I really tried to warn y\'all in 49  .. G. Orwell

Anonymous

Quote from: cc post_id=432592 time=1640891685 user_id=88
Canadians, well me for sure, can never be and feel truly Canadian until this being stripped of money that is simply given to Quebec ends

Old Brick and Shen Li go on about what a corrupt mess the US is. Successive federal governments in Canada loot the producing parts of the country to buy votes in Central Canada.